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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Apr 22, 2021 15:59:15 GMT -8
The Wenatchee had an engine fire while out on sea trials earlier. No injuries and all crew members were accounted for. Twitter Release
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Post by timmyc on Apr 23, 2021 12:02:33 GMT -8
Engine room fire on the Wenatchee during sea trials following overhaul:
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Post by northwesterner on Apr 24, 2021 10:36:24 GMT -8
Engine room fire on the Wenatchee during sea trials following overhaul: This seems like a big deal.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 28, 2021 5:56:00 GMT -8
Engine room fire on the Wenatchee during sea trials following overhaul: This seems like a big deal. It is. The path forward depends on how badly damaged the engines and the surrounding space are, but none of the options are great.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Apr 28, 2021 13:12:33 GMT -8
This seems like a big deal. It is. The path forward depends on how badly damaged the engines and the surrounding space are, but none of the options are great. If the engine(s) are toast, could this expedite the hybrid project? The Wenatchee is the first one to undergo the conversion anyway, though I do not think the funding is readily available.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Apr 28, 2021 15:31:42 GMT -8
It is. The path forward depends on how badly damaged the engines and the surrounding space are, but none of the options are great. If the engine(s) are toast, could this expedite the hybrid project? The Wenatchee is the first one to undergo the conversion anyway, though I do not think the funding is readily available. As was stated before, what happens next depends on how severe the damage is, something that is not yet known. However, if the engine(s) are totaled, then getting the Wenatchee back in service is probably going to take some time indeed. As far as I'm aware, the hybridization project is still in it's design phase. Wenatchee was slated to be the first, and if the engines in that space are indeed totaled, I don't reckon they'll be replaced with new diesel-electric engines as an interim measure. The hybrid systems integration study was the most recent report I could find on the hybridization project- it's dated 01/17/2020. Skimming through the report, it seems that design work is not yet finished. That has to get done and the design has to receive regulatory approval before instillation can begin.
So, if the machinery in that space is totaled, and the hybridization project is still a go, I would not expect Wenatchee to return to service until after she has been hybridized, which I expect will be at least a year. I hope I'm wrong... That's a long time for WSF to operate with a 20-boat fleet.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 28, 2021 19:17:39 GMT -8
The fire is under investigation. Hopefully the Wanatchee can be repaired fast if the damage is bad.
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 29, 2021 5:21:03 GMT -8
I moved all the posts relating to MV Wenatchee's engine room fire into this thread. You can continue the discussion here.
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 29, 2021 14:34:20 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on May 4, 2021 6:28:14 GMT -8
Right. Don't forget that in addition to the engines themselves, there could be heat damage to framing, plating, wiring and electronics, lighting... a lot of stuff may need replacing even if only out of an abundance of caution.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 30, 2021 15:20:32 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jan 16, 2022 17:40:11 GMT -8
The Wenatchee is out on sea trials today.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 26, 2022 15:07:17 GMT -8
Wenatchee back in service as of 1405 today from Bainbridge operating alongside the Tacoma. Puyallup now at Edmonds w/ Spokane replacing the Kaleetan. Both routes are operating at full crewed levels today.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 16, 2022 0:10:16 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 27, 2023 21:42:47 GMT -8
Is Washington State Ferries doing any other upgrades excluding going to hybrid electric during her mid life hybridization?
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Dec 28, 2023 7:47:48 GMT -8
Is Washington State Ferries doing any other upgrades excluding going to hybrid electric during her mid life hybridization? Long story short, no. The work contract outlines minimal work in addition to propulsion and hybrid installations. Review here: JMII Work Contract Part IV
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 28, 2023 14:49:50 GMT -8
Is Washington State Ferries doing any other upgrades excluding going to hybrid electric during her mid life hybridization? Long story short, no. The work contract outlines minimal work in addition to propulsion and hybrid installations. Review here: JMII Work Contract Part IVI am kinda shocked that Washington State Ferries doesn’t to significantly to changes to the vessels like what BC Ferries does.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 28, 2023 15:06:05 GMT -8
Long story short, no. The work contract outlines minimal work in addition to propulsion and hybrid installations. Review here: JMII Work Contract Part IVI am kinda shocked that Washington State Ferries doesn’t to significantly to changes to the vessels like what BC Ferries does. Sure they do. The Evergreens, Issaquahs, and the Supers (all but Hyak) received MLU's. For most of those vessels, the mid life upgrade went beyond mechanical and electrical upgrades; they also included new flooring, seating, lighting, and other finishes. In the case of the Evergreens, an exterior catwalk connecting the pickleforks was added. Yakima and Kaleetan received new pilothouse windows that slanted forward. As for the Jumbo Mark II's, Tacoma received new cabin furnishings and flooring in the early 2010's (not sure of the year). As far as I know, Puyallup and Wenatchee have not received cabin upgrades.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Dec 28, 2023 16:43:33 GMT -8
I am kinda shocked that Washington State Ferries doesn’t to significantly to changes to the vessels like what BC Ferries does. Sure they do. The Evergreens, Issaquahs, and the Supers (all but Hyak) received MLU's. For most of those vessels, the mid life upgrade went beyond mechanical and electrical upgrades; they also included new flooring, seating, lighting, and other finishes. In the case of the Evergreens, an exterior catwalk connecting the pickleforks was added. Yakima and Kaleetan received new pilothouse windows that slanted forward. As for the Jumbo Mark II's, Tacoma received new cabin furnishings and flooring in the early 2010's (not sure of the year). As far as I know, Puyallup and Wenatchee have not received cabin upgrades. Issaquah boats are also slated for MORE upgrades. Just got a bunch of money to upgrade some interior furnishings.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 29, 2023 13:43:32 GMT -8
I am kinda shocked that Washington State Ferries doesn’t to significantly to changes to the vessels like what BC Ferries does. Sure they do. The Evergreens, Issaquahs, and the Supers (all but Hyak) received MLU's. For most of those vessels, the mid life upgrade went beyond mechanical and electrical upgrades; they also included new flooring, seating, lighting, and other finishes. In the case of the Evergreens, an exterior catwalk connecting the pickleforks was added. Yakima and Kaleetan received new pilothouse windows that slanted forward. As for the Jumbo Mark II's, Tacoma received new cabin furnishings and flooring in the early 2010's (not sure of the year). As far as I know, Puyallup and Wenatchee have not received cabin upgrades. Totally forgot about those mid life refits. But why don’t Washington State Ferries put money towards safety upgrades like BC Ferries?
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Post by northwesterner on Jan 3, 2024 23:16:27 GMT -8
I am kinda shocked that Washington State Ferries doesn’t to significantly to changes to the vessels like what BC Ferries does. Yakima and Kaleetan received new pilothouse windows that slanted forward. As did Tillikum and Klahowya.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 4, 2024 7:02:16 GMT -8
Sure they do. The Evergreens, Issaquahs, and the Supers (all but Hyak) received MLU's. For most of those vessels, the mid life upgrade went beyond mechanical and electrical upgrades; they also included new flooring, seating, lighting, and other finishes. In the case of the Evergreens, an exterior catwalk connecting the pickleforks was added. Yakima and Kaleetan received new pilothouse windows that slanted forward. As for the Jumbo Mark II's, Tacoma received new cabin furnishings and flooring in the early 2010's (not sure of the year). As far as I know, Puyallup and Wenatchee have not received cabin upgrades. Totally forgot about those mid life refits. But why don’t Washington State Ferries put money towards safety upgrades like BC Ferries? They also did do safety upgrades in the years leading up to 2020. Standardizing the # of evacuation rafts on each ship to bring capacities consistent to 1800 passengers I believe (1500 for Olympics) so that ships can operate with higher capacity on routes like Bainbridge even when only one ship is in service.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 4, 2024 15:23:56 GMT -8
Totally forgot about those mid life refits. But why don’t Washington State Ferries put money towards safety upgrades like BC Ferries? They also did do safety upgrades in the years leading up to 2020. Standardizing the # of evacuation rafts on each ship to bring capacities consistent to 1800 passengers I believe (1500 for Olympics) so that ships can operate with higher capacity on routes like Bainbridge even when only one ship is in service. That is good know. But look BC Ferries from 2003 to now every mid-life refit the safety system has changed on BC Ferries. Why doesn’t WSF do a similar thing with safety equipment?
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 4, 2024 15:36:25 GMT -8
They also did do safety upgrades in the years leading up to 2020. Standardizing the # of evacuation rafts on each ship to bring capacities consistent to 1800 passengers I believe (1500 for Olympics) so that ships can operate with higher capacity on routes like Bainbridge even when only one ship is in service. That is good know. But look BC Ferries from 2003 to now every mid-life refit the safety system has changed on BC Ferries. Why doesn’t WSF do a similar thing with safety equipment? How do you know they haven't? I think you're making some broad assumptions which may or may not be true. If you have some evidence that WSF hasn't updated their safety equipment over the years, then please present it. Don't just make a general comment that WSF hasn't updated their safety systems, or that they don't change and/or upgrade their vessels over the years, as you stated earlier.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 4, 2024 15:56:44 GMT -8
That is good know. But look BC Ferries from 2003 to now every mid-life refit the safety system has changed on BC Ferries. Why doesn’t WSF do a similar thing with safety equipment? How do you know they haven't? I think you're making some broad assumptions which may or may not be true. If you have some evidence that WSF hasn't updated their safety equipment over the years, then please present it. Don't just make a general comment that WSF hasn't updated their safety systems, or that they don't change and/or upgrade their vessels over the years, as you stated earlier. Look at Cowichan, Spirit Class and Queen of New Westminster they went from one safety system to completely different one? I am not saying they don’t.
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