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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 22, 2012 19:42:18 GMT -8
Anacortes Terminal with M/V Elwha in closest berth & M/V Chelan (having just finished unloading from the international run) behind - 9 June 2012 That Anacortes subdivision on the hill is a great place for photos. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 22, 2012 19:52:32 GMT -8
Oui monsieur, as soon as I got off the boat & through customs, I was looking for a good terminal over look point. It was tough getting a good view down, though, that was not obstructed by trees.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 22, 2012 21:05:37 GMT -8
:)yes, a very good view from the hill! , and thanks for putting stuff up on the facebook / Ship Spotters site. mrdot.  |
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 25, 2012 11:24:28 GMT -8
Departing Orcas Island, 24-Jun-2012:  |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 18, 2012 17:36:55 GMT -8
what are the chances of having trouble parking in Anacortes on a Friday??? For like the 2pm to Friday Harbour. And if yout took the 7am to Tsawwassen could you make the 11:55am from Anacortes?? Just curious.
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 18, 2012 19:43:03 GMT -8
what are the chances of having trouble parking in Anacortes on a Friday??? For like the 2pm to Friday Harbour. And if yout took the 7am to Tsawwassen could you make the 11:55am from Anacortes?? Just curious. You won't have any problems finding parking at Anacortes. We've been going up to Orcas almost every other Friday, and we've been parking our car at Anacortes, and have had no issues finding parking. In fact, the last time we were up there was the weekend following the 4th of July. We found parking near the terminal at 6:30pm on Friday - didn't even have to park up on the hill. We'll be driving up again this Friday afternoon to catch the 19:20 sailing to Orcas for yet another house project weekend on the island. You should be able to make the 11:55am from Anacortes. If the ferry to Tsawwassen arrives around 08:35, you get to the border around 09:05, and it takes roughly 80-90 minutes to get to Anacortes from Blaine, even if you had an hour wait at the border, you still should make that boat. It might be tight at that point, but I think you would still make it. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 24, 2012 6:57:16 GMT -8
ok question there is 2 berths at Anacortes and a tie up berth right??? Evergreen State ties up Friday Harbour that leaves 4 boats left where do they all overnight??? I think someone said Chelan uses the tie up slip. Then there are the Yakima Hyak and Elwha which all cant overnight in Anacortes right???
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 24, 2012 7:37:17 GMT -8
ok question there is 2 berths at Anacortes and a tie up berth right??? Evergreen State ties up Friday Harbour that leaves 4 boats left where do they all overnight??? I think someone said Chelan uses the tie up slip. Then there are the Yakima Hyak and Elwha which all cant overnight in Anacortes right??? From what I could see when I was there on Friday, there looks to be a tie-up slip between the 2 berths, where the passenger walkway tower-lift is. There are only 4-ships in port during the time between midnight and 4:00am (approximate, give-or-take an hour). |
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 24, 2012 8:25:51 GMT -8
ok question there is 2 berths at Anacortes and a tie up berth right??? Evergreen State ties up Friday Harbour that leaves 4 boats left where do they all overnight??? I think someone said Chelan uses the tie up slip. Then there are the Yakima Hyak and Elwha which all cant overnight in Anacortes right??? There are two main slips (1 & 2), and 2 tie-up slips. Chelan, Elwha, Hyak, and Yakima all tie-up in Anacortes for the night. |
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 24, 2012 8:27:43 GMT -8
From what I could see when I was there on Friday, there looks to be a tie-up slip between the 2 berths, where the passenger walkway tower-lift is. Actually, the two main slips are next to each other, and the two tie-up slips are to the left of Slip 2. |
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Post by lavalamp on Jul 24, 2012 8:31:06 GMT -8
ok question there is 2 berths at Anacortes and a tie up berth right??? Evergreen State ties up Friday Harbour that leaves 4 boats left where do they all overnight??? I think someone said Chelan uses the tie up slip. Then there are the Yakima Hyak and Elwha which all cant overnight in Anacortes right??? Anacortes has 4 slips, numbered 1-4 from west to east. 1 & 2 are the slips for in-service operations, and 3 & 4 are the tie-up slips. The aerial view ( maps.google.com/?ll=48.507358,-122.676569&spn=0.002897,0.004823) shows this pretty well. |
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 24, 2012 17:54:17 GMT -8
From what I could see when I was there on Friday, there looks to be a tie-up slip between the 2 berths, where the passenger walkway tower-lift is. Actually, the two main slips are next to each other, and the two tie-up slips are to the left of Slip 2. They're only to the left from seaward...  Tie-up slips are on the east of the terminal, and there are indeed two. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 24, 2012 19:58:33 GMT -8
I thought there was only one, actually until a while ago I dident even know there was a tie up slip in Anacortes. I knew Friday Harbour had one. I might try and get down to Anacortes Friday for a day trip and some Elwha E State and Hyak fun! I need a WSF fix!
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 28, 2012 16:27:51 GMT -8
I did a trip to Anacortes yesterday! I had to park in the upper lot cause the lower lots were full! Sure is a good workout walking back up that hill. That would be a pain in the but if you had lots of luggage and at night too! Takes like 15 mins to walk that trail. I noticed parking went up last time I was there in Jan it was like $5 at least I thought it was now it is like $10. I saw the two tie up slips to the left of the main slips. The boats were pretty much full on both trips but the return trip from Friday Harbour was a bit less!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 2, 2012 14:24:17 GMT -8
Anacortes, seen on a wet & cool morning, July 20, 2012. Berth 1, from both sides:   The foot-passenger walkway; it's open-air on the sides.  View from the passenger walkway, looking at holding compound  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 19:59:28 GMT -8
I looked at the long term plan on WSDOT ferries website looked at the Long term vessel assignment. It says durning the winter they use a 64 car vessel, Salish. Does WSDOT use the Salish as the Inter-Island ferry during the winter?
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 11, 2012 11:43:59 GMT -8
I looked at the long term plan on WSDOT ferries website looked at the Long term vessel assignment. It says durning the winter they use a 64 car vessel, Salish. Does WSDOT use the Salish as the Inter-Island ferry during the winter? No, at least, not yet. Both Salish and Chetzemoka did brief stints as the inter-island ferry earlier this year, but that was primarily due to unscheduled emergencies with other vessels. One of the issues with using the Kwa-di Tabil vessels as the Inter Island boat is their narrow beam, which greatly impedes the ability to turn vehicles around on the vessel, an act which is performed regularly on the inter island ferry due to the multiple stop schedule. I don't think the vessels are well suited to do the inter-island route. Winter is the ONLY time I think it would even be conceivable to operate them up there. The rest of the year, traffic is too high for these little boats to keep up with the demand. |
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Post by FNS on Sept 11, 2012 14:16:32 GMT -8
I looked at the long term plan on WSDOT ferries website looked at the Long term vessel assignment. It says durning the winter they use a 64 car vessel, Salish. Does WSDOT use the Salish as the Inter-Island ferry during the winter? No, at least, not yet. Both Salish and Chetzemoka did brief stints as the inter-island ferry earlier this year, but that was primarily due to unscheduled emergencies with other vessels. One of the issues with using the Kwa-di Tabil vessels as the Inter Island boat is their narrow beam, which greatly impedes the ability to turn vehicles around on the vessel, an act which is performed regularly on the inter island ferry due to the multiple stop schedule. I don't think the vessels are well suited to do the inter-island route. Winter is the ONLY time I think it would even be conceivable to operate them up there. The rest of the year, traffic is too high for these little boats to keep up with the demand. That's unless Lopez is dropped from the I-I shuttle. A KDT ferry would be able to do a few more trips between Friday Harbor and Orcas/Shaw. The people going from Lopez to Orcas/Shaw can take a mainline ferry to Friday Harbor and transfer. A ride through Wasp Passage is beautiful and KDT ferries pass through this with little or no trouble in my observation during my trips aboard them in the Islands. My thoughts.  SALISH entering Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012.  SALISH entering Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012.  SALISH in Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 15:27:06 GMT -8
No, at least, not yet. Both Salish and Chetzemoka did brief stints as the inter-island ferry earlier this year, but that was primarily due to unscheduled emergencies with other vessels. One of the issues with using the Kwa-di Tabil vessels as the Inter Island boat is their narrow beam, which greatly impedes the ability to turn vehicles around on the vessel, an act which is performed regularly on the inter island ferry due to the multiple stop schedule. I don't think the vessels are well suited to do the inter-island route. Winter is the ONLY time I think it would even be conceivable to operate them up there. The rest of the year, traffic is too high for these little boats to keep up with the demand. That's unless Lopez is dropped from the I-I shuttle. A KDT ferry would be able to do a few more trips between Friday Harbor and Orcas/Shaw. The people going from Lopez to Orcas/Shaw can take a mainline ferry to Friday Harbor and transfer. A ride through Wasp Passage is beautiful and KDT ferries pass through this with little or no trouble in my observation during my trips aboard them in the Islands. My thoughts. SALISH entering Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012. SALISH entering Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012. SALISH in Wasp Passage. March 23, 2012. When a Kwa-di tibil is in as the Inter-Island ferry during winter no stops at Lopez Island and Anacortes? But, when the Evergreen State or Sealth, when it becomes the main Inter Island vessel, the Inter Island boat will stop at Lopez Island, and on Sundays and Fridays a stop at Anacortes? |
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 11, 2012 16:31:06 GMT -8
No, at least, not yet. Both Salish and Chetzemoka did brief stints as the inter-island ferry earlier this year, but that was primarily due to unscheduled emergencies with other vessels. One of the issues with using the Kwa-di Tabil vessels as the Inter Island boat is their narrow beam, which greatly impedes the ability to turn vehicles around on the vessel, an act which is performed regularly on the inter island ferry due to the multiple stop schedule. I don't think the vessels are well suited to do the inter-island route. Winter is the ONLY time I think it would even be conceivable to operate them up there. The rest of the year, traffic is too high for these little boats to keep up with the demand. That's unless Lopez is dropped from the I-I shuttle. A KDT ferry would be able to do a few more trips between Friday Harbor and Orcas/Shaw. The people going from Lopez to Orcas/Shaw can take a mainline ferry to Friday Harbor and transfer. A ride through Wasp Passage is beautiful and KDT ferries pass through this with little or no trouble in my observation during my trips aboard them in the Islands. My thoughts. That's an interesting notion, and it might be conceivable during the winter season, but that would mean re-writing the schedule to allow the mainline vessels to more adequately serve the Lopez-FH Inter island leg, and Lopez-Shaw-Orcas Inter island leg. They already do it to a certain extent, but I'm sure the schedule would need to be evaluated. From a capacity standpoint, the 64-car capacity of the Kwa-di Tabil boats is probably enough to handle the winter Inter Island traffic; it's just that whole funky narrow car deck layout issue with the goofy mezzanine that presents challenges there. I went trolling through the Salish thread and read some posts that quote San Juan crew members expressing their disdain for the new "kwa-di tub toys", and I personally heard about a crew member assigned to the Point Defiance route that asked for a transfer not long after Chetzemoka was assigned there. These are not well loved boats by the crews. There may be a few that like them,but it doesn't appear to be the majority. |
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 11, 2012 16:41:34 GMT -8
When a Kwa-di tibil is in as the Inter-Island ferry during winter no stops at Lopez Island and Anacortes? But, when the Evergreen State or Sealth, when it becomes the main Inter Island vessel, the Inter Island boat will stop at Lopez Island, and on Sundays and Fridays a stop at Anacortes? First of all, the inter island vessel does not operate on the weekends (Saturday and Sunday) on the winter schedule. The weekend schedule is completely different than the weekday schedule, and is limited to the 3 mainline ferries which pick up the inter-island traffic on some sailings. There are more all-stops sailings on the weekend schedule to accommodate this. Secondly, the Kwa-di Tabil vessels have never really been assigned to the islands yet. Yes, Salish was up there for a short time back in March subbing for Evergreen, as was Chetzemoka on another occasion. Winter is refit season for a lot of the vessels, so you tend to see more switching around, and unusual vessel assignments. The long range plan did, at one time, show a Kwa-di Tabil class vessel serving in the inter island slot during the winter schedule sometime in the next few years. Whether WSF sticks to this plan or not, I really don't know. I suspect management may have gotten an earful from crews in the islands who had to work Salish and/or Chetzemoka, and it could be that WSF is still evaluating the decision to put one there. Nothing is written in stone here. |
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 14, 2012 4:18:56 GMT -8
The Friday Harbor-Lopez interisland service and the Shaw-Orcas interisland service are aided considerably by the mainland boats. If you'll look at the schedule carefully and figure out which boats make what circuits, you'll find that one boat is primarily the Lopez-FH boat, and usually carries interisland service between the two while the designated inter-island boat is at the other end of the San Juans. Ditto the Shaw-Orcas service. Ive spent a fair amount of my career doing the Harney Tango with the inter-island boat, trading docks between Shaw and Orcas.
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Post by Luke on Sept 16, 2012 20:53:37 GMT -8
If I may change the topic abruptly,
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Post by FNS on Sept 16, 2012 21:35:03 GMT -8
If I may change the topic abruptly, Yes, the Orcas dock will be inaccessible to vehicles during the construction. A quote from the project page: "In determining when to have this closure (spring vs. fall), WSF's Customer Service department contacted the Orcas School District as well as YMCA Camp Orkila. The last week of October was chosen with the help of the community."  The Larry Norman Lodge at Camp Orkila in 1973. The project website is at: www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/sr20/orcastransferspanWe just wonder if passengers will have to wear hard hats when getting off or on the ferry at Orcas during the construction? |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 16, 2012 21:39:21 GMT -8
The Larry Norman Lodge at Camp Orkila in 1973. I've got to ask: - Is the "Larry Norman Lodge" named for Larry Norman, the singer? If it is, then that is " Beyond Fortissimo" in coolness.  |
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