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Post by Dane on May 5, 2011 14:24:16 GMT -8
News just coming in now, could be minor...? CBC - B.C. Ferries crash cancels sailingsThere are unconfirmed reports a B.C. ferry crashed into a dock hard at the Swartz Bay terminal north of Victoria on Thursday causing minor damage. BC Ferries has announced it has cancelled the 4 p.m. PT sailing from Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen of the Coastal Celebration ferry and the 6 p.m. Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay sailing. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/05/05/bc-bc-ferries-cancelled.htmlNews 1130 - Ferry hard landing - no one hurtVANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A hard landing has disrupted traffic for folks taking the Coastal Celebration from the Swartz Bay terminal. Deb Marshall with BC Ferries says shortly after departure at noon, the vessel has a propulsion issue. "The ship reversed direction and hit the dock. The ramp on the shore side did sustain some damage, as did the door on the vessel. No injuries were reported, and we didn't get any reports of any damage to vehicles on the car deck." Some Tsawwassen-Swartz Bay sailings have been cancelled as a result. For ferry wait times and othe traffic updates, tune in every ten minutes on the ones or anytime on Twitter @news1130traffic. www.news1130.com/news/local/article/222393--ferry-hard-landingVictoria Times Colonist - B.C. Ferries cancels two Victoria ferry sailings after hard landingB.C. Ferries has pulled the Coastal Celebration out of service after the vessel had a hard landing at Swartz Bay at noon. The noon and 4 p.m. sailing departing from Swartz Bay have been cancelled. Customers with reservations on these sailings will be accommodated on the next sailing. B.C. Ferries is urging travellers to avoid waits by using the Duke Point or Departure Bay routes. At 3 p.m, there was a two-sailing wait for cars and overheight vehicles. © Copyright (c) The Victoria Times Colonist www.timescolonist.com/travel/Ferries+cancels+Victoria+ferry+sailings+after+hard+landing/4735176/story.html
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Post by lmtengs on May 5, 2011 14:43:10 GMT -8
I guess this is the first major disruption involving a Coastal-Class ship?
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Post by Mill Bay on May 5, 2011 14:48:37 GMT -8
This is all BCFerries has to say about it so far:
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Post by Dane on May 5, 2011 14:52:44 GMT -8
I guess this is the first major disruption involving a Coastal-Class ship? We don't know what the damage is yet - sounds very minor. If that's the case then the answer to your question is no. Similar incident (realizing we don't actually know what happened yet) occured with the CR, perhaps even before the CC hit Canadian waters?
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Post by EGfleet on May 5, 2011 15:28:56 GMT -8
BC Ferries cancels two ferry sailings after hard landing timescolonist.com May 5, 2011 4:15 PM BC Ferries has pulled the Coastal Celebration out of service after the vessel had a hard landing at Swartz Bay on Vancouver Island at noon today. The vessel had pulled out of the dock by about six metres when it suddenly reversed and hit the dock hard, said B.C. Ferries spokeswoman Dehorah Marshall. There is damage to both the ship’s bow doors and the ramp.“The captain commented that you really couldn’t feel it but there was damage sustained to both ship and shore,” said Marshall. The noon and 4 p.m. sailing departing from Swartz Bay have been cancelled as have the 2 p.m. and 6 p.m. sailings departing Tsawwassen. Customers with reservations on these sailings will be accommodated on the next sailing. B.C. Ferries is urging travellers to avoid waits by using the Duke Point or Departure Bay routes. At 3 p.m, there was a two-sailing wait for cars and overheight vehicles. B.C. Ferries is considering adding an additional run at the end of the day to deal with the backlog. On Friday, B.C. Ferries will put a replacement vessel on the route so travellers shouldn’t experience unusual waits, said Marshall. This is the second hard landing in a week for B.C. Ferries vessels. Last week, the MV Mill Bay hit the dock at Brentwood Bay and sustained a hole in the hull above the water line. www.vancouversun.com/travel/Ferries+cancels+ferry+sailings+after+hard+landing/4735472/story.html
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Post by WettCoast on May 5, 2011 17:22:36 GMT -8
I guess this is the first major disruption involving a Coastal-Class ship? The C-Ren knocked a passenger overhead walkway into the salt chuck at Departure Bay, about 2 years ago, IIRC. That, I think, would count as the first major incident involving a Coastal class vessel while in service. This incident is significant, and may well turn out to be 'major'. Re service today - The SoBC is sitting idle at Tsawwassen. It would seem that they are unable to crew it so as to make up for lost sailings with the C-Cel. I assume that the damaged dock at SWB is berth 2. I assume that the C-Ren is unable to use that dock and must use berth 1, which is supposedly off-limits for the Coastal Class. The C-Ren delays are probably due in part to having to use berth 1. Is anyone able to confirm my assumptions? Does anyone know if the SoVI's MCD ramps are still usable? Might deployment of these be responsible for how far behind schedule this vessel is reported to be? If I understand the reports correctly the C-Cel was departing SWB (from berth 2) when it 'somehow' reversed direction and slammed hard into the dock damaging both dock and ship. How bizarre is that?
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Post by glasseye on May 5, 2011 17:40:14 GMT -8
I don't know how the berths are numbered at SWB, but from looking at Siitech today, I've seen SoVI in the nothernmost (N/S oriented) berth. CC is in the southern most double deck berth (roughly east/west oriented). I haven't seen CR docked yet.
SOVI is about half an hour late right now. CR is about an hour behind.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 5, 2011 17:46:31 GMT -8
I guess this is the first major disruption involving a Coastal-Class ship? The C-Ren knocked a passenger overhead walkway into the salt chuck at Departure Bay, about 2 years ago, IIRC. That, I think, would count as the first major incident involving a Coastal class vessel while in service. This incident is significant, and may well turn out to be 'major'. Re service today - The SoBC is sitting idle at Tsawwassen. It would seem that they are unable to crew it so as to make up for lost sailings with the C-Cel. I assume that the damaged dock at SWB is berth 2. I assume that the C-Ren is unable to use that dock and must use berth 1, which is supposedly off-limits for the Coastal Class. The C-Ren delays are probably due in part to having to use berth 1. Is anyone able to confirm my assumptions? I believe the CR could always use berth 3 at Swartz Bay but would be unable to use the overhead walkway. I will check SiiTech around 2100 to see which berth she uses. Should be interesting. EDIT: I just checked SiiTech and the CC is in berth 3 so if the berth 2 ramp is still damaged, I guess the CR will use berth 1.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 5, 2011 17:54:39 GMT -8
I don't know how the berths are numbered For any terminal, the numbering goes from left-to-right, from the on-shore viewpoint. So at Swartz, the main Spirit berth is #1. At Tsawwassen, the main Spirit berth is #5. At Snug Cove, the berth is the berth. ;D
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Post by mrdot on May 5, 2011 18:05:15 GMT -8
:)looks like we will have to christen a new capt. crunch for the new wonderboats! the one saving grace is these new ones are suitable for a rough ride, and are survivable. :)mrdot.
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Post by Ferryman on May 5, 2011 18:12:17 GMT -8
Not that I have any information in the matter, nor is it really right for me or of us who are inexperienced with the ships to comment. But as a guess, it could almost sound like a malfunction with the control transfer between the two bridges. Glad nobody was hurt though. This would be the benefit to having those hydraulic shock absorbing wingwall and lead pads....to minimize the sudden stop.
Curious to see what comes of the investigations as to what went wrong
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Post by lmtengs on May 5, 2011 18:23:43 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the SoVI's MCD ramps are still usable? Might deployment of these be responsible for how far behind schedule this vessel is reported to be? When I was on the SoVI last weekend, I passed deck 3 on my way up from the lower car deck where I left my bicycle, and they've put new signs on the doors from the stairwell to the gallery decks: 'This deck is permanently closed, this door will NOT open'. No photos of the signs, but they're there.
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 5, 2011 18:53:07 GMT -8
The SOBC is sitting idle at Tsawwassen. I did a roundtrip on the C Rennie Wednesday afternoon and the SOBC and the New West are sitting there. They must be able to get a crew for one of those ships. When I was on the C Rennie at Swartz Bay Wednesday the Mayne Queen used Berth 1 when she came in at around 1pm as the Rennie departed like 15 mins late. They could use Berth 3 and just not use the walkway but it would be cool to see the Rennie in Berth 1 at Swartz Bay!
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Post by Kam on May 5, 2011 19:25:05 GMT -8
BC Ferries cancels two ferry sailings after hard landing The vessel had pulled out of the dock by about six metres when it suddenly reversed and hit the dock hard, said B.C. Ferries spokeswoman Dehorah Marshall. I'm going to bet that someone transfered from one control position to another and the "L" or "T" handle in that position was still set for astern (or ahead if it was the opposite wheel house..) I cant remember now, do the coastals have control stations at the bridge wings?
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Post by Ferryman on May 5, 2011 19:51:16 GMT -8
Coastal Celebration a few minutes ago. Photo sent from a friend of mine. Please do not use without permission
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Post by lmtengs on May 5, 2011 19:52:30 GMT -8
BC Ferries cancels two ferry sailings after hard landing The vessel had pulled out of the dock by about six metres when it suddenly reversed and hit the dock hard, said B.C. Ferries spokeswoman Dehorah Marshall. I'm going to bet that someone transfered from one control position to another and the "L" or "T" handle in that position was still set for astern (or ahead if it was the opposite wheel house..) I cant remember now, do the coastals have control stations at the bridge wings? Look out to the far side of this picture, there does appear to be some kind of control panel outside on the portside wing.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 5, 2011 20:02:46 GMT -8
The CR is now rounding Piers Island taking the same route the Spirits usually do when they leave Swartz Bay, so it looks like she's headed for berth 1!
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Post by glasseye on May 5, 2011 20:17:09 GMT -8
CR is in berth #1 at SWB.
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Post by Ferryman on May 5, 2011 20:21:30 GMT -8
Re: Berth issue
It's quite obvious that the CR would use Berth 1. Berth 2 is now out of service since it has been damaged. Berth 3 is where the Celebration is docked so Berth 2 repairs can be handled immediately. Lets not forget Berth 5 is also out of service for rebuilding. Will be interesting tomorrow with there being only two Berths open, and three ships running on Route 1.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 5, 2011 20:29:22 GMT -8
Re: Berth issue It's quite obvious that the CR would use Berth 1. Berth 2 is now out of service since it has been damaged. Berth 3 is where the Celebration is docked so Berth 2 repairs can be handled immediately. Lets not forget Berth 5 is also out of service for rebuilding. Will be interesting tomorrow with there being only two Berths open, and three ships running on Route 1. Since we don't know the extent of the damage to berth 2, I thought it might be fixed by now eg: if there were only a couple of bent "fingers" on the apron or something else fairly minor. But seeing the pic of the door on the CC I guess the damage is more substantial. So this weekend....the SOVI, Mayne Queen, and Cumberland all need to tie up at night.....the CR will also be there. If the CC stays at SB for repairs, someone will be without a "bed" for the night!
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Post by WettCoast on May 5, 2011 20:33:13 GMT -8
Will be interesting tomorrow with there being only two Berths open, and three ships running on Route 1. I guess it will be the SoVI plus two Tsawwassen based vessels ( Renaissance & SoBC or maybe QNWM). It being a Friday in May, they do need to provide a fairly high level of capacity. BTW, perhaps this should be referred to as a 'hard departure'. PS: It occurs to me that the C-Cel has very recently been through a refit. Might the problem here be something to do with a 'cotter pin'?
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Post by Mill Bay on May 5, 2011 20:35:54 GMT -8
Most likely in the event of all the berths being needed, they may likely relocate the Celebration temporarily, seeing as if she would be out of service anyway, the repairs can either be done at another terminal, or put on hold until after the berth is repaired first.
I do wonder though, if that picture of the damage to the ship shouldn't have been posted in a private forum thread, instead, especially if you don't want it being misappropriated.
<<Also, though, the signs for deck 3 on the SOVI say the deck is currently not in use, not that it is permanently closed.>>
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 5, 2011 20:45:45 GMT -8
Will be interesting tomorrow with there being only two Berths open, and three ships running on Route 1. I guess it will be the SoVI plus two Tsawwassen based vessels ( Renaissance & SoBC or maybe QNWM). It being a Friday in May, they do need to provide a fairly high level of capacity. BTW, perhaps this should be referred to as a 'hard departure'. PS: It occurs to me that the C-Cel has very recently been through a refit. Might the problem here be something to do with a 'cotter pin'? There will be 4 ships on rt1 tomorrow...the SOBC and QoNW out of Tsawwassen and the SOVI and CR out of Swartz Bay.
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Post by piglet on May 5, 2011 22:36:45 GMT -8
Just caught some of the CHEK news and they showed them lifting some parts off the boat with a crane. They didn't say what the damage was but I guess this possibly a sizeable oops as it involves the doors as well as the dock.
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Post by Kam on May 5, 2011 23:15:12 GMT -8
Just caught some of the CHEK news and they showed them lifting some parts off the boat with a crane. They didn't say what the damage was but I guess this possibly a sizeable oops as it involves the doors as well as the dock. Those where actualy the giant shock absorbers that are part of the dicking assembaly behind the big "bash plates"
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