Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 30, 2008 10:47:51 GMT -8
I dont know if there is another thread on this but my girlfriend was telling me the other day that when she was really young she remembered going on a ferry from Victoria to Seattle. She said it was an overnight trip. It was back in the 80's and it was a car ferry. It had like a Princess name. I am thinking this might be the QRP when she ran from Vic to Seattle. Did the QPR do overnight sailings when she ran to Seattle?? Anyone have any old info on this???
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D'Elete BC in NJ
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Dec 30, 2008 11:39:58 GMT -8
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Post by bcferryfan87 on Dec 31, 2008 0:30:21 GMT -8
Possibly the Stena ship - Crown Princess Victoria (ran in 1990 only as I recall , in lieu of the Maggie); I believe they did overnight trips - or at least had proposed them. If she remembers it, then this must be it.
Vic princess/qpr only did day time night time (aka the maggie's sched as far as I'm aware).
Wasnt VIP (van isl princess) either, so I think it has to be crown princess Vic.
I really should pull some of my Marguerite old pics and Stena stuff from files and see what I can scan up here.
I also have somewhere, audio (taped by me old fashioned way holding a mic and cassette recorder) of:
Maggie doing welcome into vic harbour (whistles); same for VIP at OGden
Also have an old beta version tape of The whole end of the line of Maggie in Sept 89. Sorry for digression...
Hope this helps
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Post by Neil on Jan 1, 2009 16:03:33 GMT -8
Karl: In 1990, Stena Lines had the Crown Princess Victoria doing overnight runs, leaving Victoria at midnight, and arriving in Seattle at 7am. It ran Fridays and Saturdays in the off season, and daily except Tuesdays in summer. This may have been the only year for that.
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Post by roeco on Jan 2, 2009 12:17:52 GMT -8
Could a Victoria-Seattle car ferry service ever be profitable? And did any of the companies that ran the service previously ever make $$ or close to it? And can you only run a casino in Canadian Waters?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 11, 2009 19:52:03 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Jan 11, 2009 21:38:47 GMT -8
The QUEEN OF PRINCE RUPERT (in disguise as VICTORIA PRINCESS) did two round trips daily in her stand-in stint on the Seattle-Victoria run.
She did the traditional morning sailing from Seattle, an early afternoon run from Victoria, an evening run from Seattle, and an overnight run from Victoria (passengers would be berthing on that trip). She was basically a 24 hour ship on that run in 1980.
The Stena ship (CROWN PRINCESS VICTORIA) did the same for awhile. Heard some unfriendly reviews about that ship as you had to be a dining room customer to get a forward view of Puget Sound. She had very little public lounging space. She was overloaded with staterooms. Thankfully, her stint was short lived here.
Though I didn't want to, I had to see her again as I and my family were staying at a hotel at Shelter Island, San Diego, in the early 1990s. She was doing day trips from San Diego to Ensenada then as PACIFIC STAR. There, she had to have a pilot guide her on San Diego Bay. I watched the pilot get on and off outside the Bay.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 12, 2009 0:03:15 GMT -8
Wow... that ship sure doesn't seem to fit the B.C. coast. Just way too poorly proportioned, short and wide, boxy, and what's with all those bulges around her waterline?
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Post by bcferryfan87 on Jan 12, 2009 11:15:42 GMT -8
That was a very sad time when the Maggie left - and VIP to a lesser degree. I agree, the Crown Princess Vic was not properly researched as an option for Seattle - Vic run. The attraction from what I saw to the Maggie was that it was the Maggie. They tried the Qof PR in 81 - didn't work! Even running the VIP I think was a "2nd best" to the Maggie. As I've said before, I took it (VIP) in July 89 to Vic because it was only vessel that took cars. Stena had stopped taking cars on the Maggie, and logistically (call me young, not experienced in life at that point), I didn't see a good way of making the trip (With me based in Richmond) on the Maggie working. I wish I had. I drove to Seattle, overnighted, then took me and my car onto the VIP. I really wish I could turn back time, but you can't, so that I could have had one trip on the Maggie.  I still hope somehow that I might find a link that she is sitting somewhere, waiting to be resurrected, but I know she landed up in Alang (from all I can find)  I'm glad for my memories of seeing her, and of my trip on the VIP, all beit a 2nd best option. Thats why the Burnaby (Maggie III ) didn't work in my opinion on the run. There wasn't enough demand for people to take a car ferry to Vic from Seattle. It wasn't the "classic Maggie".
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 16, 2013 8:57:56 GMT -8
Pacific Star (IMO 6620773) in San Diego, California - c1991. Photo by my brother, Mr. DOT. At the time of this photo she was cruising between San Diego & Ensenada, Mexico. A year or two prior to this photo, this ship was in service for BC Stena Lines between Seattle & Victoria as the Crown Princess Victoria. This vessel is apparently still in service as the Amusement World. photo © Mr. DOT by Wett Coast, on Flickr[/size]
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Post by hunter on Jan 9, 2014 20:01:51 GMT -8
I used to be a crew member on all three ships (Maggie, VIP and Crown princess Victoria). When the Maggie was sold, I transferred over to the VIP Vancouver Island Proncess. For a year we sailed from Victoria to Seattle and back, over nighting in Victoria. Then we started round the clock service, leaving Victoria (Ogden pt) around 6pm arriving in Seattle by 11pm. This is where we overnight end. Then we brought a ship over from Sweden (Once BC Steamship was sold to stena lines) and crowned her the Crown Princess Victoria. She also ran round the clock. I worked on her until I left the company and moved to San Diego in 1990. Interesting fact, as stena started having money issues, the Crown Priness Victoria ended up moving her home port to San Diego, sailing daily to Ensenada Mexico. All ships ferried cars and all had restaurants and cabins. The newest ship also had a comedy bar, night club and like the Maggie and VIP, a full casino could also be found.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 9, 2014 20:51:42 GMT -8
I used to be a crew member on all three ships (Maggie, VIP and Crown princess Victoria). When the Maggie was sold, I transferred over to the VIP Vancouver Island Princess. For a year we sailed from Victoria to Seattle and back, over nighting in Victoria. Then we started round the clock service, leaving Victoria (Ogden pt) around 6pm arriving in Seattle by 11pm. This is where we overnight end. Then we brought a ship over from Sweden (Once BC Steamship was sold to stena lines) and crowned her the Crown Princess Victoria. She also ran round the clock. I worked on her until I left the company and moved to San Diego in 1990. Interesting fact, as stena started having money issues, the Crown Princess Victoria ended up moving her home port to San Diego, sailing daily to Ensenada Mexico. All ships ferried cars and all had restaurants and cabins. The newest ship also had a comedy bar, night club and like the Maggie and VIP, a full casino could also be found. Thanks for sharing your references. We'd love to hear more of what these ships were like.
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