Maritime Museum thread

[Retrovision]

To start, models of the CPR's BCCSS and documentation/pictures...

CPR's BCCSS House Flag


Princess Victoria






Princess Alice


Princess Margaret



Princess Marguerite


Princess Adelaide (first 2), Princess Alice (foreground in last photo)


The Start of Ro/Ro, by the Motor Princess (Eventually Pender Queen)



Looking much like today, as originally intended to take the place as the CPR's central Vancouver terminal, built in the early half of the 20th century


From Khaloke, formerly City of Sacrcamento and Asubury Park, and eventually Langdale Queen


Queen of Alberni Before and During Lifting



Albert J. Savoie


Queen of Esquimalt and Queen of Saanich:

[Low Light Mike]

Wow! I loved the straight-on views of some of the model photos.

I noticed on the map of the CP service area, that they spell Duncan as "Duncans". I wonder if this is what it was known as then?

Thanks for posting those pics.

[Curtis]

Now those are Very Nice.

[Political Incorrectness]

As Coastal Insanity said (oh how did it go!) "Sweet, we look forward to the improvment from Awesome to Awesomer in your photography." That is in the RAW format and those type of images are the nicest you can get.

[WettCoast]

Nanaimo,

According to the book BC Place Names by G.V.P. & Helen B. Akrigg the town was named after William C. Duncan who was one of the first white settlers in the Cowichan Valley. He farmed close to the town that now bears his name. When the E&N Rwy was built they located a station near the Duncan farm which they named Duncan's Station. Over time the name was changed to Duncan's, and later just plain Duncan. Read more about this in the Akrigg's book.

I do recall that a federal government agency once called the Geographic Board of Canada declared that geographic names with apostrophes in them had to go. That is how Hudson's Bay became Hudson Bay. Duncan's may have become Duncan for the same reason. BTW, St John's Newfoundland managed to keep the apostrophe to avoid confusion with Saint John, NB, and also because at that time Newfoundland was not part of Canada.

[Low Light Mike]

Thanks JT....info muchly appreciated

[Retrovision]

I've noticed that towns in (atleast) BC that originally had an apostrophe in their names are neither few or far between.

[Retrovision]

Next Installment, including CPR's BCCSS, the Prince George, and BC Ferries...








































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[Low Light Mike]

Which ship is the white one, just above the BC Ferries "plate" in this photomontage?

Since she's white, I'm guessing she's a CP Empress ??

Also, the Prince George brings back memories of the Nanaimo waterfront during the late 70's or early 80's, when she was tied up near what is now the Beacon highrise tower.

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flugelhorn said:

Which ship is the white one, just above the BC Ferries "plate" in this photomontage?

Since she's white, I'm guessing she's a CP Empress ??

She's the Empress of Japan, one of the CPR's Empress Ships that crossed the Pacific from Vancouver, a service that was established in the early 1890s.

[Queen of Nanaimo Teen]

Has anyone been to the Vancouver Maritime Museum? Is it worth going to?

[Retrovision]

It's, unfortunately, not nearly on the same level as the one in Victoria, but it's got some interesting things.

[Retrovision]

ferrymaniac101 said:

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That is in the RAW format and those type of images are the nicest you can get.

Fortunately I have the ability to constantly change the format of the pictures that I'm taking; if I couldn't, I'd be able to fit fewer than 100 pictures on my 2gig card. So, of the pictures that I took on that trip, only the ship-models themselves are in RAW format.

[Low Light Mike]

Here's a thread for discussion related to Maritime Museums and pictures of items from the museums.

My inspiration for starting this thread was a recent expedition that I took to the Maritime Museum in the City of Victoria. It was a celebration of memorabilia, dating back to the early days of Victoria (not as far back as the Renaissance period).

I took a bunch of photos and I'll post some here, in the coming days.

[Low Light Mike]

Here are my pictures from my August 25 2009 visit to the Maritime Museum of British Columbia, located in Victoria.

Here's their website: mmbc.bc.ca/


CP Steamship items:
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Princess Victoria items:








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One of the Princess Marguerites, I'm not sure which. But if I type "open house", member FerryNutSeattle will be alerted and will post the answer here, soon. Thanks!



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Not in the museum, but nearby, at a wall of plaques at the inner harbour.
- This plaque commemorates the Royal Visit and the 1st Princess Marguerite.
- 2 years earlier, the same Royal couple had visited Mayne Island.

[Low Light Mike]

I wondered why there were no Union Steamship items. I concluded that it was because:

a) Victoria was not a home port for the Union Steamship Company

b) Local museums in places such as Campbell River, Powell River, Cortes Island collectively have the good collections / exhibits for the Union Steamship Company.

I never asked the volunteers at the Maritime Museum to corroborate this, but the entire museum was entirely devoid of anything regarding the Union Steamship Company. Not a scratch of anything, except for Tom Henry's book "The Good Company" in their gift-shop.

[Kahloke]

I love the Maritime Museum. I've been there a couple of times before. Here's a pic of the outside I took last year:

[Low Light Mike]

A Black Ball Peabody item:


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And now for some BC Ferries stuff:

Here's the booklet who's title was referenced in a thread earlier this year, regarding RoyalRoadsProfessor's upcoming book:



Dinner time: Why Scott, Dane, and Jim need to save their NorEx menus.



I wonder how many of these are in ex-ferry employees' rec-rooms? Does Scott have these and use them for flower pots?



Queen of the North item:



I wonder if Sean got a picture of himself posing beside this, during his museum trip?



Some name-boards:

[Low Light Mike]

BC's Next Top ship-model contestants:

3 old ferries:



MV Sidney, in original configuration:



Queen of Burnaby:


- above Burnaby model done by a ferry officer. Here's the card. I hear that he's a great guy.



For Brett:



MV Island Princess:




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ps: I didn't see former-member Darren's model of the MV City of Vancouver, or any others of his. I asked, and was told that there are lots of items in storage, because of limited museum display space.

[Kahloke]

Great stuff. I love their models of the ferries.

If any of you get to London, the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich is a must - definitely one of the best maritime museums I have visited. I made it a point to go there the first time I went to the UK, back in 2001. I just scanned some pics I took of the exterior and the grounds around the museum (I didn't have a digital camera then, hence the need for scanning these in):

Entrance to the National Maritime Museum-Greenwich:


Greenwich panorama from The Observatory: Maritime Museum at left; Queens House in Centre; Old Royal Naval College beyond; Thames River beyond that; and finally, the ever burgeoning skyline of London's Canary Wharf in the distance:


Royal Observatory at Greenwich:

[Kahloke]

Another excellent maritime museum I had the pleasure to visit is Museu Maritim de Barcelona. Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures of it or the exhibits, but one of the highlights for me was the full-size replica of the Royal Galley of Juan De Austria, kind of the museum's centrepiece.

www.mmb.cat/default.asp?idApartado=103

[Quatchi]

Aug 26, 2009 18:35:49 GMT -8 Low Light Mike said:

For Brett:

Some of you might not know this, but when I was 16 my grandmother took my to the Maritime Museum. I had never been really interested in ferries until then. I had always like riding them, but never had any interest further than that. When we went though the BC Ferries section of the museum It clicked and I have yet to be sane since.

The summer I graduated from High-school I was yet again at the maritime museum with my grandmother. I was in the market for a model idea and didn't know what I wanted to build. Thoughts of tugs, sailboats, cabin cruiser's and gunships frolicked in my mind. Grandma though that going to the museum would give me an idea.

I walked into that second room full of BC Ferries memorabilia and models and I saw the a model of a ship that I did not recall seeing before. The 1:100 model of the Queen of Chilliwack a vessel I didn't know existed, a vessel named after my home town, and the oddest thing I had ever seen became my inspiration to build one myself.

2 years later I have a working hul with custom hand made brass Right angle Drives that work just like the real ships do. I only hope that some day I can loan my model to the maritime museum and they can display it along with all the other great models in the hall, that is until Sunday when all the R/C guys meet at the pond to have fun with their boats.


Cheers,

[Northern Exploration]

A strange place to see antique model ships is the Art Gallery of Ontario. The late Ken Thompson was a keen model ship collector. The most modern ship IFC is a variety of WWII Liberty ships. The detailing is amazing. Even more astounding is the large number of sailing ships complete with intricate rigging.

Of all the scores of times I have been in the city, I have only been to the Maritime Museum in Victoria once. And I was at the Vancouver Maritime Museum only twice. Once was a school trip and I remember being amazed at the St. Roch the first trip. We got to do some really cool school trips beside the obligatory Ft. Langley and downtown Vanvouver ones. The other bestest was a behind the scenes tour of the new terminal at YVR (now the domestic terminal) and visit onboard an AC DC8 and DC9.

The standout maritime museum I have been to is Nauticus, in Norfolk, Virginia. This was before the battleship Wisconsin joined the collection. Now additional ships also moor by the museum including Navy ships from the neighbouring Norfolk Navy Base and cruise ships, some of which are open for tours. In chatting with BCinNJ about the SS United States being up for sale once again, I was mentioning that this museum would be a wonderful place for her. She was built across Hampton Roads at the Newport News Shipyard, famous for aircraft carriers and submarines. However, since she is totally stripped inside I think converting to a hotel/conference centre/museum is probably far too expensive. I would highly recommend checking it out if you are ever in the area.

The next door Norfolk Navy base also has a decent museum on the grounds. However, I don't know how access is now in this age of heightened security. It used to be a breeze to drive through the gates and travel to the various more public parts of the navy base and naval air station, but I think that is over. I don't know as well if they even continue the Easter Sunrise Service on whatever aircraft carrier is in port or even if they host open houses on ships on the base. They may now just send them to Nauticus or other public pier for the tours.

My list of To Do's when I am back in BC continues to grow beyond the do-able so I need to get back soon.

[FNS]

Aug 26, 2009 18:03:36 GMT -8 Low Light Mike said:

Here are my pictures from my August 25 2009 visit to the Maritime Museum of British Columbia, located in Victoria.

Here's their website: mmbc.bc.ca/

One of the Princess Marguerites, I'm not sure which. But if I type "open house", member FerryNutSeattle will be alerted and will post the answer here, soon. Thanks!

This was the first PRINCESS MARGUERITE. She had three stacks (PM2 had two) and a second forward observatory. I solemnly say that this is the one that was lost in WW2. Equally sad is the grounding and sinking of her sister PRINCESS KATHLEEN in Alaska. These were fine ships. I wished that I could have seen at least one of these in service. They were gone before I was placed on this planet in 1961.

Fortunately, I was here when the PRINCESS MARGUERITE II and PRINCESS PATRICIA II were in service. The workmanship that went into the building of these was incredible. Practically the only way to see this kind of shipbuilding today is aboard the QUEEN MARY down in California. Similar construction techniques that went into the building of the PM2 and PP2 were done on the QUEEN MARY. Similar kind of stacks, too. Thanks, Scots!

[Low Light Mike]

A copied post from another thread:

Nov 26, 2010 16:21:12 GMT -8 @lmtengs said:

Here's a great site with some photos of BC ferry models in the BC Maritime museum:

www.resinshipyard.com/pages/model_gallery_pages/bcmuseum_bcferry_models.html