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Post by NMcKay on Feb 23, 2008 7:34:52 GMT -8
the only thing i can think of.. is MOTH could acquire them. translink could use them elsewhere, BCF could aquire them, or they could be sold off....
did you know... that they are currently selling tickets on the FINAL sailing of the albion ferries?
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 23, 2008 8:15:54 GMT -8
did you know... that they are currently selling tickets on the FINAL sailing of the albion ferries? Where can I get my tickets?! ;D |
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 23, 2008 9:53:02 GMT -8
ill contact my dad, but i think they can be had @ the FRMT office by calling 604-467-7298 during regular buisness hours.
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Post by Hardy on Feb 23, 2008 14:58:01 GMT -8
We could always chain the 3 vessels together, bow to bow to form a Ferry bridge  . I was pushing this option for something useful to do with the Fastcats, but no one ever took me up on it. It would have been just like a swing bridge in so far as you could spin the ferry in case some other marine traffic needed to get by. And the wake issue never would have come up ....  |
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Post by Hardy on Feb 23, 2008 15:06:41 GMT -8
they will take over on the barnston island route and the galena bay inland route. kidding Speaking of Barnston Island, I had the (mis)fortune of having a delivery over there a few weeks ago at the end of my day. I went over at about 1630 and had a 2 sail wait - when embarking a 5-ton delivery truck, they can only take 2 cars on the barge, and as it was, 1 car ahead of me got bumped on the trip I took. For those of you that don't know too much about Barnston, it is a tug/barge operation, where the barge is basically grounded onto a ramp on Barnston, and only slightly less so on the Surrey mainland side. You drive on at the mainland, and back off on Barnston, reversing this on the way back. On my delivery trip, the tide was okay on the way over and it was daylight. By the time I finished my delivery and came to leave, it was pitch dark, and the tide was lower. For those of you that want a challenge, back a 5-ton truck onto a 5-car barge ferry in the pitch dark, trying to make sure that you do not bottom out the back of your truck on the ferry. As it was, I was close enough that I cheated a little bit and used two of the wheelchocks that were on the ferry to drive over to raise up the back of my truck so I would not bottom out. Quite a THUMP when I came down off of them though, which scared the poop out of one of the car drivers. I am lucky that the tide was not any lower or I could have been trapped on Barnston until the tide changed. Having been over there before, in a different truck, I had the same problem leaving Barnston and had to DRIVE on, and then BACK OFF at Surrey -- those of you familiar with the "dock" at Surrey can only imagine what fun I had with a 35' long straight truck (luckily it was summer time and day light!) BACKING off at Surrey. |
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Post by Nickfro on Feb 26, 2008 18:28:51 GMT -8
Update:
The Klitsa has completed its tenure operating on the Albion route, as she is now located back at Deas. That probably gave the Albion crew time to do any required work on their 2 regular boats for about 1 week per boat. Klitsa will probably spend the next 3 weeks at Deas before her move to join Kahloke on Route 21 starting March 20, that's my guess.
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Post by DENelson83 on Feb 26, 2008 18:46:47 GMT -8
Join, or replace?
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 26, 2008 18:52:11 GMT -8
To join, as Nickfro had said.
Darn! I was really hoping to make it out to Albion to see what the refurbished Klitsa is like. I was even down in Port Coquitlam all weekend, but just couldn't find the extra time to make it out that way. Oh well, I'm sure I'll get a chance to go for a trip on her sometime in the future.
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Post by Nickfro on Feb 26, 2008 18:52:45 GMT -8
Join. See here.Similar to Chris, I was hoping to make it out there this past weekend as well for my first time on the Albion route. Unfortunately, the time wasn't available for me to make it out there on the weekend. Opportunity lost. . .hopefully there's another time that Klitsa is on that route. What's she doing during the summer period anyway? |
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Post by coastalcody on Feb 26, 2008 22:31:12 GMT -8
I was out at my aunts house who lives in fort langley so i took the ferry, unfortunately i left my camera back home in gibsons.
But it was cool seeing a transit colored ferry running with a bc ferry!
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Post by Hardy on Feb 27, 2008 8:51:26 GMT -8
Klitsa's window of opportunity to run again on the Albion route is growing smaller every day. That darn toll bridge is just sprouting up, almost as if someone is building it! I have serious doubts that she will ever run service on that route again before the Albion route is phased out in favour of the GEB. |
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 27, 2008 16:43:18 GMT -8
Update: The Klitsa has completed its tenure operating on the Albion route, as she is now located back at Deas. That probably gave the Albion crew time to do any required work on their 2 regular boats for about 1 week per boat. Klitsa will probably spend the next 3 weeks at Deas before her move to join Kahloke on Route 21 starting March 20, that's my guess. nope... would have been longer than that... and it woul dhave been so that the klatawa coul dbe pulled down to allied shipyards, pulled up on the slip, had any work done. generators replaced, legs fixed.. paint on the outer deck, and then back out to albion.... may have only been 2 weeks this year....klitsa will not be back for another 2 years. |
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Post by Nickfro on Feb 27, 2008 16:51:17 GMT -8
. . .if they have the Albion farries even running in 2 years! (GEB) If you are correct in your statement, then this may have been the final time the Klitsa will ever have been in service on the Albion run.
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 4, 2007 23:17:34 GMT -8
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Post by Curtis on May 22, 2008 7:11:16 GMT -8
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Post by Balfour on May 22, 2008 7:20:23 GMT -8
It makes sense considering the warm weather we had on the weekend which has melted the huge snowpack from this past winter.
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Post by Northern Exploration on May 22, 2008 7:36:57 GMT -8
A bit off topic, but does anyone know if the snowfall was enough to replenish all the reservoirs on the north shore and in Victoria.
I know someone has mentioned why truck traffic is restricted when the water is high, but can someone repeat it please. Does it have to do with docking and ramps?
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Post by Hardy on May 22, 2008 7:47:36 GMT -8
Trucks and commercial vehicles over 5500kg LGVW are restricted from using the Albion Ferry. The reason given is that the higher water levels cause the loading ramps at each landing to operate at a "less-than-ideal" articulation angle which has the potential to cause "load-related" damage or premature wear. I would imagine that this would be at the articulation points of the ramps themselves, or perhaps on the parts of the dock near the top of the ramp's articulation point; Fraser Marine is a little vague in terms of details.
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Post by Mill Bay on May 22, 2008 20:45:53 GMT -8
A couple photos from the Albion ferry yesterday illustrating the high water levels. The ferries were also working a lot harder against the stronger current than normal, but they were also using it a lot to their advantage by more or less drifting into the berths on the final approach.
The bridges leading out to the ramps at each berth were also nearly level and parallel to the water when there is usually a significant incline. It's surprising how fast the river has come up.
Does anyone know if the weight restriction means I can't take my one-ton across on the ferry.
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Post by Hardy on May 22, 2008 21:45:57 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the weight restriction means I can't take my one-ton across on the ferry. Current weight restriction is Commercial Vehicles 5500kg LGVW - in other words Purolator/FedEx sized cube vans (16' cargo vans). Pick-up trucks, passenger vans, and regular vans are all okay still ... Old math 5500kg is about 12000 #. |
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Post by fargowolf on Oct 20, 2008 9:46:48 GMT -8
For a 6-7 sailing wait, why wait and not just drive around? |
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Post by fargowolf on Oct 20, 2008 10:00:41 GMT -8
Klitsa's window of opportunity to run again on the Albion route is growing smaller every day. That darn toll bridge is just sprouting up, almost as if someone is building it! I have serious doubts that she will ever run service on that route again before the Albion route is phased out in favour of the GEB. |
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Oct 20, 2008 10:23:06 GMT -8
I was talking to my mother about the Albion ferries earlier in the week, and even though they live up near Stave Lake and work near 200th St in Langley, they will go out and around to avoid the minimum 5 sailing wait that seems to be the norm now.
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Post by Hardy on Oct 20, 2008 11:32:53 GMT -8
For a 6-7 sailing wait, why wait and not just drive around? Wow, old post replies -- through experience, during non-rush times, a 3-4 sailing wait is the same time as the drive around. Rush hour non-peak 4-5, and rush hour peak 5-6 is your break even point. Another reason for not driving around is to be able to catch up on reading, paperwork etc and take the relaxing 'cruise'. I've done the ferry as opposed to driving when I have been behind on my phone calls and paperwork and taken the time in line/on the ferry to catch up on stuff. Hard to do that while driving. |
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Post by Hardy on Oct 20, 2008 11:37:44 GMT -8
I have a feeling that the ferries will continue to run, even after the GEB is opened. The new bridge will just be another rush hour parking lot. Do you have any proof or documentation to this? It seems completely against all of the current and prior information we have on this topic. The Albion ferry, as it is provided as a FREE service, costs the government a fair amount of money; I cannot see how they would continue to fund this service when the bridge is in place. All bridges tend to be choke points and slow downs regardless of where they are. Whether the GEB will become a parking lot, I tend to disagree. It should be no worse (in fact it should be better) than the other bridges in the area. |
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