dave2
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Post by dave2 on Apr 24, 2022 9:58:17 GMT -8
It’s not often we see a 1950s Black Ball schedule. Vancouver Sun, March 25 1959. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> 'dave2', thanks for posting that schedule. As a schedule nerd, I was trying to figure out how Black Ball could have run the Langdale and Bowen runs with two vessels, which at that time would have been Smokwa and Bainbridge. Couldn't be done. I know that the Cy Peck also ran to Bowen at times, so for that particular schedule, it must have been those three boats. Anyway, a fun puzzle to figure out, and it's interesting to see Bowen as not a bedroom community with commuter ferry service, but just a small community that had ferry service every three hours or so. I think in that era Bowen's population year round might have been less than two hundred. Heh, I wondered about that too. Still, it seems to me that if Bowen had its own ferry it would provide more than a three hour service. That’s a lot of down time. So I took a closer look at the schedule, and marked a possible service, assuming a 20 minute crossing time to Bowen. Yes some of the turn-around times at Horseshoe Bay are a bit tight at 5 minutes, but with a capacity of only 45 or 46 vehicles it may have been possible . Who knows? Damn you Black Ball for not specifying the vessels!  |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 24, 2022 21:46:42 GMT -8
Somewhere I have seen a Blackball schedule for their Canadian services circa 1960 & it details which vessels were making the runs. This is probably located somewhere in my brother's collection (Mr DOT). I have much of his collection now, but alas its all packed up in boxes ready for my upcoming move. |
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Post by Mike on Nov 11, 2023 11:37:38 GMT -8
Not a schedule per se, but a brochure from 1999 detailing CirclePac discounts, and the routes associated with it. It didn't quite fit on my scanner, so some of the edges are cut off.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 11, 2023 15:00:34 GMT -8
Not a schedule per se, but a brochure from 1999 detailing CirclePac discounts, and the routes associated with it. It didn't quite fit on my scanner, so some of the edges are cut off. It must have cut off the parts that mentioned "Tokina Power" and "Bathtub !" and "Ernie's Hour" and the "Cinnamony" |
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Nov 18, 2023 17:54:00 GMT -8
Just some notes from summer 1985...
Route nine: Queen of Tsawwassen.
Route five: Mayne Queen, Quinitsa. (Vesuvius Queen was the number two boat on that run in the spring, taking 95 minutes to do Swartz to Saturna.)
Fulford: Bowen Queen.
Vesuvius: Vesuvius Queen.
Cortes: 16 car ferry, either the Nimpkish or Nicola.
Quadra: Quadra Queen II
Denman: Kahloke
Hornby: Albert J. Savoie
Thetis: Kulleet, Klatawa, or Klitsa.
Texada: North Island Princess.
Comox: 130 cars... Princess of Vancouver?
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Post by northwesterner on Nov 18, 2023 19:29:52 GMT -8
Just some notes from summer 1985... Comox: 130 cars... Princess of Vancouver? Had to be. Joined BCF fleet in 1985 from Ministry of Highways. Made it into the Expo livery, with Expo86 logo. We know her career at BCF was very very short. What operated Comox in 1986? flic.kr/p/e8KHHZ |
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 18, 2023 20:23:47 GMT -8
Just some notes from summer 1985... Comox: 130 cars... Princess of Vancouver? Had to be. Joined BCF fleet in 1985 from Ministry of Highways. Made it into the Expo livery, with Expo86 logo. We know her career at BCF was very very short. What operated Comox in 1986? flic.kr/p/e8KHHZ took over, IIRC ... |
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Nov 18, 2023 21:33:26 GMT -8
Had to be. Joined BCF fleet in 1985 from Ministry of Highways. Made it into the Expo livery, with Expo86 logo. We know her career at BCF was very very short. What operated Comox in 1986? flic.kr/p/e8KHHZ took over, IIRC ... No vessel named for that route in the schedule, so you're likely right. In the Gulf Islands, Queen of Nanaimo sailed out of Long Harbour, with Queen of Tsawwassen and Queen of The Islands on route five. |
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Post by Dane on Nov 19, 2023 11:12:23 GMT -8
Just some notes from summer 1985... Comox: 130 cars... Princess of Vancouver? Had to be. Joined BCF fleet in 1985 from Ministry of Highways. Made it into the Expo livery, with Expo86 logo. We know her career at BCF was very very short. What operated Comox in 1986? flic.kr/p/e8KHHZI think that may be the only photo I have seen in the expo livery, maybe second? There was a years long debate on here whether that had happened or not! Here's the relative end of that debate, which may have actually preceded the forum by a bit and started in *ahem* Yahoo! Groups: ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8335/cps-princess-vancouver-photos-discussion?page=2 [this thread has one Expo photo, but only a small part of the vessel - and reference to a second photo that seems to be lost to the winds of time]. |
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Post by northwesterner on Nov 19, 2023 16:35:53 GMT -8
Had to be. Joined BCF fleet in 1985 from Ministry of Highways. Made it into the Expo livery, with Expo86 logo. We know her career at BCF was very very short. What operated Comox in 1986? flic.kr/p/e8KHHZI think that may be the only photo I have seen in the expo livery, maybe second? There was a years long debate on here whether that had happened or not! Here's the relative end of that debate, which may have actually preceded the forum by a bit and started in *ahem* Yahoo! Groups: ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8335/cps-princess-vancouver-photos-discussion?page=2 [this thread has one Expo photo, but only a small part of the vessel - and reference to a second photo that seems to be lost to the winds of time]. There is reference in that thread to a now long gone photo of her in Expo livery having her pointy bow reinstalled. I have seen that photo, but it only gives a small glimpse of the livery. This one is the only decent shot I've seen. In that thread there is also this fleet listing dated June 1986 from Ferryman with Princess of Vancouver still rostered (and with a 130 car capacity). (Here: ferriesbc.proboards.com/post/70587)If Queen of Sidney was at Comox in 1986, was she just out of service? Even during the Expo summer? In this post from WettCoast ( ferriesbc.proboards.com/post/95747) we see reference to a "new lounge area" as part of the bow removal work. This most certainly was converting the main passenger level car spaces back into a passenger space. The linked photo in Expo livery make it look like this is active passenger lounge space and note that the additional lounge present in the last days of her CP service on the sun deck has been removed. |
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