Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 20, 2009 21:37:40 GMT -8
Hint: it's on one of the Spauldings you know guys, he's probably giving us a C... I'll say the Fat Cow(ichan). Never mind that... I was forgetting that they were also designed by Spaulding... It's one of the seven sisters.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 20, 2009 21:42:36 GMT -8
Okay, to make up for that, I'll try something more legitimate. Which terminal is this ferry approaching? Vessels dock at Westview stern-to, and it looks too far from land to be Hornby for me, so I nominate this intriguing terminal: Sointula.Reasons why: -Just about the correct distance from Vancouver Island to make that photo legit. -Vessel is approaching bow-to. Although it is highly likely you are right, that it is Sointula, it's not because of the distance from V-Island. The location of the berth on Malcolm Island would not really give you a straight view back to the island from that vantage point, especially since it seems rather foggy. However, Malcolm Island is rather crescent shaped, so it curves around and would actually be visible in the background of it's own ferry terminal, almost just like that.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 20, 2009 22:14:22 GMT -8
Using FH's clues the location must be Shingle Point, Hornby Island. Nearby you will find Ford Cove, and the Ferry will take you across to Gravely Bay, on Denman. The land in the background appears to be the southern extremity of Denman Island. Hornby is, of course, a place that Neil likes to spend some time.
I never knew that the Tenaka aka Comox Queen once served this route.
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Post by Neil on Jul 20, 2009 22:15:51 GMT -8
It is indeed Sointula, on a rainy autumn day in the fall of '81. As for correcting the provincial archives on that mis-placed, flopped photo, perhaps I'll try, although I don't like the odds of getting to an actual human being who might care enough to make the change. (You know WCK, I do on occasion go places other than Hornby. Tenaka has never shown up at that fair isle.)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 21, 2009 6:32:25 GMT -8
Using FH's clues the location must be Shingle Point, Hornby Island. Nearby you will find Ford Cove, and the Ferry will take you across to Gravely Bay, on Denman. The land in the background appears to be the southern extremity of Denman Island. Hornby is, of course, a place that Neil likes to spend some time. I never knew that the Tenaka aka Comox Queen once served this route. I was assuming that the terminal was Gravelly Bay on Denman Island. I was not factoring in the ship coming straight at the terminal; so I'm assuming that she would do a last-minute tight turn and back in. ....Then when I looked later at the picture, I envisioned the terminal being Denman West. But the ferry's route of approach didn't make sense. ...Then I envisioned the terminal being Westview, with the island being Harwood Island. That made some sense. Enough ambiguity and historical curiosity to make this a winning question. I'm just wondering what the winning answer is, and then we can all study the picture and see that it makes sense.... And then I finally read Neil's response, and it does make sense. ------------------- This question was fascinating, because for me I made up my mind early on (I was wrong though) and then I ignored clues that indicated I was wrong, and stayed steadfast in my wrong initial assumption. I've experienced the same thing when traveling and thinking I knew where I was on a map and trying to make the landmarks fit the map and fit my location assumption. Everything can seem "close" and so I believe it, but then I later realize that everything was off. When you later find the perfect-fit, you realize that the truth really fits perfectly.
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Post by Mike C on Jul 21, 2009 9:37:54 GMT -8
It is indeed Sointula, on a rainy autumn day in the fall of '81. As for correcting the provincial archives on that mis-placed, flopped photo, perhaps I'll try, although I don't like the odds of getting to an actual human being who might care enough to make the change. Point for the Flyer... and my ego grows a little larger.
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Post by FNS on Jul 21, 2009 10:30:25 GMT -8
I will bite on Neil's latest and guess the vessel is the Comox Queen approaching Westview and the date is in the 60's or early 70's. In regard to the earlier backwards photo of HSB that is mis-identified as Alert Bay - It was obvious to me at first glance that this is Horseshoe Bay, although something seemed not quite right. After a few seconds it was apparent that the picture is reversed. I am with FNS on this one - backwards photos are sac-religious. Niel, have you or anyone else contacted the RBCM to correct them re this photo being incorrectly identified & published backward? The data on the Archives site dates the photo from 1967. The ferry colouring, however, looks to be red & white, suggesting that this may be from the Blackball era. The closer vessel looks more like a Spaulding, perhaps the Tsawwassen. That would make the date, at least, the most believable piece of data on the Archives page: www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-447B74E/cgi-bin/text2html/.visual/img_txt/dir_10/i_12217.txt The ferry arriving Horseshoe Bay at the time when this photographer pressed the exposure button was either the QUEEN OF TSAWWASSEN or QUEEN OF SIDNEY. The ferry in the background might be the LANGDALE QUEEN. Not sure, though.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 21, 2009 11:35:53 GMT -8
I will bite on Neil's latest and guess the vessel is the Comox Queen approaching Westview and the date is in the 60's or early 70's. In regard to the earlier backwards photo of HSB that is mis-identified as Alert Bay - It was obvious to me at first glance that this is Horseshoe Bay, although something seemed not quite right. After a few seconds it was apparent that the picture is reversed. I am with FNS on this one - backwards photos are sac-religious. Niel, have you or anyone else contacted the RBCM to correct them re this photo being incorrectly identified & published backward? The data on the Archives site dates the photo from 1967. The ferry colouring, however, looks to be red & white, suggesting that this may be from the Blackball era. The closer vessel looks more like a Spaulding, perhaps the Tsawwassen. That would make the date, at least, the most believable piece of data on the Archives page: www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-447B74E/cgi-bin/text2html/.visual/img_txt/dir_10/i_12217.txt The ferry arriving Horseshoe Bay at the time when this photographer pressed the exposure button was either the QUEEN OF TSAWWASSEN or QUEEN OF SIDNEY. The ferry in the background might be the LANGDALE QUEEN. Not sure, though. The ferry in the background looks more like a steamboat or paddlewheeler. Maybe a fishing boat or a HUGE yacht.
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Post by Neil on Jul 21, 2009 11:54:52 GMT -8
Queen of Tsawwassen was one of the regular boats on route two at that time, along with the 'Burnaby, 'Nanaimo, and 'New Westminster. The ferry in the background does look to be the Langdale Queen, after backing out and making the turn to head for Langdale.
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Post by Mike C on Jul 21, 2009 18:02:32 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm with Neil and Ferrynut on that one. I believe it is identifiable as the Langdale Queen, because of the shape of her stack, the tall mast and the overall bow shape.
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Post by Taxman on Jul 21, 2009 21:05:20 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Jul 21, 2009 22:04:24 GMT -8
I knew something good would happen as a result of these wonderful exchanges between us ferry geeks on this magnificent forum! I think the mighty moderators will give us all a pat on the back on this one!!
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 21, 2009 22:55:51 GMT -8
Well done, gang. Now if we could just get them to reverse the image so the terminal is on the right side of the bay
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Jul 22, 2009 3:45:18 GMT -8
Well done, gang. Now if we could just get them to reverse the image so the terminal is on the right side of the bay It's tagged "Image reversed, to be corrected", so I would think it's just a matter of time...
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Post by Taxman on Jul 22, 2009 17:27:41 GMT -8
I suppose they are going to reverse horseshoe bay so if matches the picture then? A nice make work project... shovel ready!
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Post by Mike C on Jul 22, 2009 18:48:49 GMT -8
I suppose they are going to reverse horseshoe bay so if matches the picture then? A nice make work project... shovel ready! Introducing the British Columbia economic stimulus plan...
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 28, 2009 12:55:06 GMT -8
A different take on the game: - When was this photo taken? ie. What day of week, and what time (within 25 minutes)? You have all the clues that you need to give me a precise answer. ;D
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 28, 2009 12:59:14 GMT -8
And another, that's different. The location is the Allied Shipbuilders yard. The time-frame that I'll tell you is "1960's to 1970's". There are 2 ships being constructed on the ways. The ship on the right is more complete, and the ship on the left has it's deckhouse being constructed on the far left. The question: What are the names of both ships?? - You don't need to specify which ship is which, and any of the ships' registered names will be fine.
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Post by hullnumbers on Jul 28, 2009 13:21:43 GMT -8
Since i am new at this. i believe the far one is the Quadra Queen 2 and the other is tachek or the other way around. but this is my guess
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 28, 2009 15:20:50 GMT -8
Since i am new at this. i believe the far one is the Quadra Queen 2 and the other is tachek or the other way around. but this is my guess Correct. I don't know which is which (I could find out easily by looking at my book where I scanned this from, but I'm lazy....). 1969, the 2 sisters ordered by Ministry of Highways. Allied also built one of the 4-sisters in the Nimpkish class.
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Post by Dane on Jul 28, 2009 15:23:30 GMT -8
A different take on the game: - When was this photo taken? ie. What day of week, and what time (within 25 minutes)? You have all the clues that you need to give me a precise answer. ;D Photo was taken in 2009 - Sunday - 10:00am-10:25am ish
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 28, 2009 17:10:01 GMT -8
A different take on the game: - When was this photo taken? ie. What day of week, and what time (within 25 minutes)? You have all the clues that you need to give me a precise answer. ;D Photo was taken in 2009 - Sunday - 10:00am-10:25am ish Right on the money, Dane. Only 1 vehicle got off at Long Harbour, and a few were already on the ship and continued to Mayne. Lots of traffic boarded at Long Harbour for that sailing.
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Post by Ferryman on Sept 13, 2009 7:51:55 GMT -8
Not a "Guess Where" game, but instead this will be a "Can you spot the Ferrygeek". No Joke, I'm actually sitting in my car waiting to board the Ferry in this capture that my Mother managed to get last Monday.
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Post by Canucks on Sept 13, 2009 9:24:38 GMT -8
Not a "Guess Where" game, but instead this will be a "Can you spot the Ferrygeek". No Joke, I'm actually sitting in my car waiting to board the Ferry in this capture that my Mother managed to get last Monday. How about here;
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 4, 2009 20:13:31 GMT -8
I know there's both this and ferry fun fridays going now, but "whatever!", I say. this one is as hard as it gets... i think. If anyone gets it, within a day, i'll faint Which ferry?
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