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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Mar 12, 2010 8:30:34 GMT -8
Here's a great read of memories of a Texada Islander of the ships that served the areas around Texada. First the intro to our forum: My dad has completed a memoir of his travels on the CP ships when he was a young man.
Wow, the shoes to fill...my grandfather also has a number of stories published from his days growing up on Texada, though only minor mention is given to the CP ships. And here's the link to the memoirs: tedross-texadaisland.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-came-to-texada_27.htmlA revised version of this story will be featured in the next issue of the Texada Lines, a quarterly paper published by Texada Island Community Society. While looking for a website for the paper, I happened across this photo which appears to be either on the Blubber Bay wharf or the Vananda wharf. I believe to two girls in the photo are Woodheads, and, if so, Margaret still lives on Texada. More photos featuring coastal ships that serviced Texada can be found here. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 23, 2010 16:30:20 GMT -8
Here are a few photos from the Ladysmith (the town in BC) archives: www.ladysmithhistoricalsociety.org/image%20search/search%20page%201.html============  - I think that the above ship is the Princess Royal. She's shown on pages 68 & 85 of Robert Turner's Pacific Princesses book (2nd edition). =======================  - My guess is that this is the Union Steamship Cowichan. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 15, 2010 16:50:55 GMT -8
From my Dad's collection, from the 1950's. All I know if this ship departed Vancouver....and likely went to Nanaimo. - My presumption is that it's the Princess Elaine, just because of the route and the era.   |
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Post by FNS on May 15, 2010 17:43:47 GMT -8
From my Dad's collection, from the 1950's. All I know if this ship departed Vancouver....and likely went to Nanaimo. - My presumption is that it's the Princess Elaine, just because of the route and the era.  This photo was taken aboard either the TEV PRINCESS MARGUERITE or TEV PRINCESS PATRICIA when this vessel was new then. The whistles are hidden, so I can't tell them apart on this photo. These had two stacks and the PRINCESS ELAINE had three. The bottom photo was on another kind of vessel. This aft section with the ornate windows housed the ship's ballroom. Ahead of this were the heads and public and engineers staterooms, built around the uptakes and vent ducts. Then, there were the pub and officers staterooms. There is no mistake on identity of the bridge this ship is passing under!  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 23, 2010 19:49:56 GMT -8
Photos from exhibit displays at Nanaimo Museum: 2 photos, and a close-up crop on each: ============= CP china:   ======== Newcastle Island vacation scene from 1930: - The Joan or Elizabeth, and the Victoria:  close-up of the Victoria:  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 6, 2010 12:27:07 GMT -8
I visited Newcastle Island (across the harbour from Nanaimo), on June 5, 2010. One of the aspects of this island's history is that it was a Canadian Pacific BC Coast Steamship Service resort in the 1930's. This is similar to how the Union Steamship Company had Bowen Island and Selma Park. Newcastle in the CP days was a prime site for Vancouverite to take a weekend picnic excursion. CP also moored some steamers at the Newcastle wharf to use as floating hotels. Included in that gig was the most beautiful ship to ever sail the Strait of Georgia: the Princess Victoria (although this was in the years following the Princess Victoria's re-fit which ruined some of her original charm. sigh) . The jewel in the buildings used by CP was the pavilion dance-hall, opened in June 1931. It was restored by a local group (funded by 3 levels of government) in the mid 1980's. Today it is used as concession building, washrooms, but one end is still used as a dance-hall, most likely used for summer weddings. CP BCCSS era memorabilia is displayed throughout. As well, the pavilion building houses a few general museum-like display boards about the island's industrial history. ===================== The outside of the historic pavilion building at Newcastle Island:    ----------- Builder's plaques for the pavilion: - original builders:  - 1980's restoration:  -------------------- Interior of pavilion: - the area now used as concession:  The dance-hall:   - nice photo-mural at one end.   -------- continued next post, with the memorabilia items. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 6, 2010 12:44:07 GMT -8
Here is the Canadian Pacific memorabilia, inside and near the historic pavilion building on Newcastle Island. CP posters:    - and the menu for an outing at Newcastle Island.  ---------------- Photos: - The Princess Victoria and the Princess Marguerite (the first Maggie, which would later be torpedoed in the Mediterranean during WWII), in 1938.  - The Joan and the Victoria.   ============= Info display on Newcastle Island sandstone.  |
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 6, 2010 15:14:09 GMT -8
Great pics, Flug. I've been wanting to go to Newcastle Island for some time now. It looks like a great park to hike/walk around. And, it appears you would get some good ferry-spotting vantage points along the north and west sides of the island. Maybe I'll do it sometime this summer.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 6, 2010 16:21:14 GMT -8
Great pics, Flug. I've been wanting to go to Newcastle Island for some time now. It looks like a great park to hike/walk around. And, it appears you would get some good ferry-spotting vantage points along the north and west sides of the island. Maybe I'll do it sometime this summer. Thanks, it was a fun day. See my Oak-Bay ferry pics (in the OakBay photo thread), taken from the north end of the island, where it forms one side of the entrance to Departure Bay. |
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Post by FNS on Jun 6, 2010 19:17:35 GMT -8
Here is the Canadian Pacific memorabilia, inside and near the historic pavilion building on Newcastle Island. Photos: - The Princess Victoria and the Princess Marguerite (the first Maggie, which would later be torpedoed in the Mediterranean during WWII), in 1938.  Hate to correct you again. The three stacker off the starboard side of the PRINCESS VICTORIA was the PRINCESS ELAINE, not the first PRINCESS MARGUERITE. The ELAINE was easy to distinguish with her side windows on the main passenger deck. I've had the privilege in seeing the PRINCESS ELAINE in person during the early 1970s. She was docked in West Seattle and was seen from downtown Seattle. Later on, she would be docked where the SKANSONIA was in the northern part of Lake Union, next to the noisy I-5 overpass (the SKANSI was recently moved a few yards east to her current location). That was where we would see the PRINCESS ELAINE as a whole ship for the final time as the cutters came aboard and brought her construction down to her car deck as she would become a barge. Her upper aft lounge was relocated onto another barge. I have a small handful of things from her. The former Astoria ferry TOURIST 2 (later Pierce County's ISLANDER) was converted into today's Lake Washington cruise vessel MV KIRKLAND at the same spot the dismantled PRINCESS ELAINE was. Then, the SKANSONIA took that spot until she was moved to her current location today. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 6, 2010 21:52:47 GMT -8
Hate to correct you again. The three stacker off the starboard side of the PRINCESS VICTORIA was the PRINCESS ELAINE, not the first PRINCESS MARGUERITE. The ELAINE was easy to distinguish with her side windows on the main passenger deck. Thanks JR. I was just going by the typed caption under the photo, but we all know that even captions can be wrong. Thanks for expaining the "why". |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 7, 2010 18:49:52 GMT -8
Some Canadian Pacific posters, from the Nanaimo Museum. - the Vancouver - Nanaimo route.  =========== Items from the Canadian Museum of Civilization, in a traveling exhibit showing at Nanaimo: - Not necessarily ship related, but gives an idea of immigration marketing done by/through CP in the early 20th Century.   |
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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 8, 2010 7:08:53 GMT -8
Some Canadian Pacific posters, from the Nanaimo Museum. - the Vancouver - Nanaimo route.  =========== Items from the Canadian Museum of Civilization, in a traveling exhibit showing at Nanaimo: - Not necessarily ship related, but gives an idea of immigration marketing done by/through CP in the early 20th Century.   Great pics of those posters Flug! I just recently saw similar ads and posters that were run even earlier to settle the Muskoka area of Ontario, one the farmland in southern Ontario was allocated. The are is now home to cottagers like the Eaton family, Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russel, Cindy Crawford and many sports personalities, as they rough it in their many million dollar "cabins". Hapless immigrants in Europe were told the same thing in these campaigns as the one poster touted, there are "farming ready plots." They arrived, took the train north, and found that these farming ready plots needed to be cleared of massive white pines, were full of rocks, and the soil was inches deep over the Canadian Shield. They then followed other posters like the one you show, that led them in many cases to Michigan and further west to the Canadian prairies. |
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Post by mrdot on Aug 24, 2010 10:42:02 GMT -8
in reply to the quiry about further cariers of our coastal boats, many of the Princesses of the cpr coast service went on to mediteranean careers, Princess Joan and Elizabeth became Hermes&Peagus and Princess Charlotte became Mediterranean and Princesses Allce&Adelade also had further service for eproitiki. Again my brother has many illustrations of these ships in his flickr file. mr.dot.
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 24, 2010 12:39:12 GMT -8
Down here at Point Roberts I don't have access to my files in order to upload to imageshack in order to display an image ahead of a link, but fortunately just learned of a way to easily do this through my flickr account itself. That being said, here are a couple of ones that I've already uploaded...  Princess of Nanaimo at Nanaimo by indyinsane, on Flickr  Victoria's Inner Harbour with the CPR's BCCSS & Black Ball Terminals by indyinsane, on Flickr For this last one, I have a fairly good idea which vessels those are at the Inner Harbour, but would appreciate confirmation by some of the more knowledgeable members of our forum. The vessel at the Black Ball dock would be the steamer Olympic.  |
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Post by mrdot on Aug 24, 2010 12:56:28 GMT -8
if evergreen fleet is down in pt. roberts he is only a mile or so from where i am texting this little reply here in tsawwassen centre. the pic. of victoria's inner hbr. features princess joan on the left, and the black ball's olympic on the rt. i used to tromp this area all the time in my youth! mr.dot.
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 24, 2010 13:02:34 GMT -8
if evergreen fleet is down in pt. roberts he is only a mile or so from where i am texting this little reply here in tsawwassen centre. the pic. of victoria's inner hbr. features princess joan on the left, and the black ball's olympic on the rt. i used to tromp this area all the time in my youth! mr.dot. That's me who's just south of the border from you, Mr. DOT. EGfleet was quoting that posting of mine. Thank you both for the clarification on the vessels, much appreciated. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 2, 2010 8:28:50 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 2, 2010 8:45:03 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 2, 2010 9:05:40 GMT -8
They all look like photos taken within Fulford Harbour to me actually. The views of Mt. Maxwell, or Mt. Bruce are unmistakenly identifiable in the background for me at least. For a comparison, here's a recent photo of Fulford Harbour. Mt. Maxwell is the sharper looking Mountain in the middle, and Mt. Bruce is towards the left, and not entirely visable. If you're ever in the area, or sailing on Route 1 at night, Mt Bruce is the one with 6 or 7 cell towers with red lights on at the peak. i99.photobucket.com/albums/l291/ferryman_2006/004-16.jpg |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 2, 2010 9:28:08 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 2, 2010 13:09:09 GMT -8
Are you sure about that? That last picture, the name on the back looks more like it ends with "CP" then "ER". I definitely do not think that's an 'R' at the end though. EDIT: from the side shots, it looks like her name is "RCP". Maybe "ACP". |
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Post by mrdot on Oct 2, 2010 13:50:45 GMT -8
I've just been vueing some of these posted pics, on the large monitor that wettcoast helped install in this retirement room that is filled with ferry memorabilla that some of the forum are going to have to vue someday, one of the pics, that hilites well on this screen shows the old Princess Mary which was one of the regulars to Saltspring in the old days, and was one of our favourite eating spots in old Victoria, when I was first married, way back when. mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 2, 2010 14:01:18 GMT -8
Are you sure about that? That last picture, the name on the back looks more like it ends with "CP" then "ER". I definitely do not think that's an 'R' at the end though. EDIT: from the side shots, it looks like her name is "RCP". Maybe "ACP". I found the lettering on the ship's side to be illegible and puzzling. So instead I went to my bookshelf and went through Tom Henry's "The Good Company" and Robert Turner's "The Pacific Princesses", looking for a close match. Otter was my closest match, based on appearance. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 19, 2010 10:00:16 GMT -8
The basement of the Capital Iron store in Victoria has a maritime-antiques section. This section used to be a lot larger, following the dismantlings of the various CP BC Coast Service steamships. There are still some items displayed for sale, but I'm not sure what ships they are from; likely not the old BCCS ships. Store website: - they were kind to allow me to take a few photos of their store. www.capitaliron.net/Beside the main door on Store St. - I'm not sure which ship this is from.  On the way downstairs is a small gallery of photos of ships that the store had a role in dismantling.  Princess Mary, dismantled 1942.  The marine-antique section (next to the barbecues section):   No indication on this painting of which ship this is, other than clues from the artwork itself.  |
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