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Post by piglet on Nov 19, 2010 14:30:48 GMT -8
Capital was always a great place to go "investigating". I have a belt clip coin changer from the CPR I got there many years ago. Not sure why I bought it but Im glad I did. Just was saying to my partner we really need to go there next time we get to the coast. She has never been there but wants to go investigating herself.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 5, 2010 15:35:02 GMT -8
- Does anyone known if the CP BCCSS naming-scheme was just to attach any female name to the Princess prefix? Or were they named with specific real-life princesses in mind? The answer, I believe, is that CP did indeed mostly just attach various female names to the Princess prefix. It would be interesting to track down the people behind the names for all of CP's Princess fleet. I am thinking that it would be possible to find most if not all of this info in one or the other of Robert Turner's books on the BCCS Service. I do believe that few, if any of the ships, were named directly after royal princesses. The P Victoria was named for the city, not directly for Queen Victoria, who was deceased by the time the vessel came along. Many vessels, it seams, were named for female relatives of CP executive types. Examples include the 1925 twins P Marguerite & P Kathleen which were both apparently named for the same person - Marguerite Kathleen Shaughnessy - who was the daughter of one time CPR Czar Lord Thomas Shaughnessy. PS - I think this 'aside' is of interest to me and others, but perhaps should be moved to a more appropriate thread for further discussion. |
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Post by Neil on Dec 5, 2010 17:02:29 GMT -8
- Does anyone known if the CP BCCSS naming-scheme was just to attach any female name to the Princess prefix? Or were they named with specific real-life princesses in mind? The answer, I believe, is that CP did indeed mostly just attach various female names to the Princess prefix. It would be interesting to track down the people behind the names for all of CP's Princess fleet. I am thinking that it would be possible to find most if not all of this info in one or the other of Robert Turner's books on the BCCS Service. I do believe that few, if any of the ships, were named directly after royal princesses. The P Victoria was named for the city, not directly for Queen Victoria, who was deceased by the time the vessel came along. Many vessels, it seams, were named for female relatives of CP executive types. Examples include the 1925 twins P Marguerite & P Kathleen which were both apparently named for the same person - Marguerite Kathleen Shaughnessy - who was the daughter of one time CPR Czar Lord Thomas Shaughnessy. PS - I think this 'aside' is of interest to me and others, but perhaps should be moved to a more appropriate thread for further discussion.Page 257 of 'The Princess Story', by Hacking & Lamb, states that the Princess Kathleen and Princess Marguerite, both launched in 1925, were the first Princess ships not to be named for royalty. Queen Victoria was of course a princess before she was a queen, and boats such as the 'May, 'Adelaide, 'Beatrice, 'Sophia, and others, also commemorated members of the British royal family, alive or deceased. I guess they didn't have their monarchy handbook handy the day they named the Princess Royal. |
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Post by mrdot on Mar 31, 2011 12:40:16 GMT -8
:)once again many thanks go out to EGfleet for his latest posts, many of which are in the extensive collection I have entrusted to brother whitecoast, ma
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Post by mrdot on Mar 31, 2011 12:47:39 GMT -8
:)once again many thanks to EGfleet for his latest posts, a veritable feast of immages, many of which are in the vast collection of memorabilla I have entrusted to brother whitecoast, also many of my drawings and illustrations were gleaned from sources such as these. As for the impending trip on my Queen of Kelsey Bay, count me in, and maybe I can operate the ramp at Montegue harbour for old times sake! :)mrdot.
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Post by mrdot on Apr 7, 2011 16:12:32 GMT -8
:)once again thanks goes out to EGfleet for his multitude of new posts of coastal memories, I don't think the last pic of the onetime Chinook, flatters her, but many of the others are great look backs! mrdot  |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 7, 2011 22:00:42 GMT -8
Here is a Canadian Pacific advertisement carried in the National Geographic magazine in the early 1930's.  Scanned from the DOT collection |
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Post by EGfleet on Apr 8, 2011 10:44:08 GMT -8
Here is a Canadian Pacific advertisement carried in the National Geographic magazine in the early 1930's. Scanned from the DOT collectionThe artwork for brochures from this time period is just great. Some of the best Black Ball brochures were done up in the 1930's as well. Very cool! Meanwhile, this is what becomes of an old Princess--the Princess Joan, remodeled and sailing for her Greek owners as the Hermes.  |
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Post by mrdot on Apr 8, 2011 13:48:03 GMT -8
:)yes, the artwork done in the 1930's was outstanding, and there is a bevy of material for my brother and others to feast on! the Alaska line, and an assortment of other NW railways did many outstanding publicity works, the CPR collection, alone is a feast for the eyes! :)mrdot.
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Post by Mike on Apr 8, 2011 14:12:39 GMT -8
:)yes, the artwork done in the 1930's was outstanding, and there is a bevy of material for my brother and others to feast on! the Alaska line, and an assortment of other NW railways did many outstanding publicity works, the CPR collection, alone is a feast for the eyes! :)mrdot. I have a framed reprint of a CPR poster I would guess is from the 1940's, hanging in my room. It certainly is one of my favorites from that era. Here is an image of the poster. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 23, 2011 19:13:22 GMT -8
Photos from Nanaimo Museum: - the old Nanaimo CPR steamship terminal (close to where the seaplane terminal is today).   -------------------- A small keepsake of the Princess Elaine:  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 6, 2011 19:48:29 GMT -8
The Evergreenfleet.com website has a new page for CP's Princesses. www.evergreenfleet.com/CPRSPLASH.htmlSome parts are still under construction, but it's worth your time to check this out. |
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Post by mrdot on Sept 6, 2011 20:27:30 GMT -8
:)I have just cllicked on to EGfleet's new princess fleet folder, and think I vued all that was there, but there may be more, please advise, and If he would like any of my material to add, just see brother, wettcoast, and it can be arranged! great evening entertainment! :)mrdot.
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Post by FNS on Sept 6, 2011 22:14:06 GMT -8
:)I have just cllicked on to EGfleet's new princess fleet folder, and think I vued all that was there, but there may be more, please advise, and If he would like any of my material to add, just see brother, wettcoast, and it can be arranged! great evening entertainment! :)mrdot. "Edutainment" is a word we should be using. We are educating (and entertaining in a way) the world about our rich maritime history with a wealth of photos and our knowledge of ships and ferries as well as other things in the libraries of our Forward Lounge. |
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Post by EGfleet on Sept 7, 2011 9:10:23 GMT -8
The Evergreenfleet.com website has a new page for CP's Princesses. www.evergreenfleet.com/CPRSPLASH.htmlSome parts are still under construction, but it's worth your time to check this out. I'm still pulling the notes together for the statistics and brief history of the vessels. So far I've just put on the vessels I have postcards/ephemera/slides of. I've just snagged a postcard of the first Princess Patricia, so when that arrives I'll be adding her to the site. |
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Post by mrdot on Sept 7, 2011 12:31:59 GMT -8
:)please keep me informed of all this memorabilia, and I would be happy to have my brother WCK, contribute some of my material from all our Pacific northwest coastal fleets, if you wish. :)mrdot.
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Post by EGfleet on Sept 7, 2011 12:49:57 GMT -8
:)please keep me informed of all this memorabilia, and I would be happy to have my brother WCK, contribute some of my material from all our Pacific northwest coastal fleets, if you wish. :)mrdot. Oh, I would like that very much! Thank you! |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 9, 2011 21:31:43 GMT -8
A wartime restriction that we'd have some problems with today...  Look for this type of notice at BC Ferries' Tsawwassen Terminal, sometimes soon........  |
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 20, 2011 19:12:11 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 4, 2011 7:42:26 GMT -8
This here is the general thread for CP's BC Coast Service ships (photos & discussion).
- if you don't see a separate thread for your CP ship, then this here general CP thread is the place to post.
If you've got more than just a few items to post about that ship, then perhaps it would be better to start a thread for that separate CP ship, as long as it's not just a 1-off post.
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On this topic, today we've created a new thread for CP's Princess Elaine, with EGFleet's photos as a start.
- the goal isn't to have a separate thread for each CP ship. However the goal is to have separate threads for individual ships where we have lots of photos and discusion about.
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Post by piglet on Nov 22, 2011 9:08:03 GMT -8
I was just looking at this thread. Coming from a family that worked the coal mines of Nanaimo for years. What you ask does this have to do with the boats? The men in the mines could hear the screws of the ships passing over head. It got to the point they could tell the time by which ship was passing so as they didn't carry watches they knew when shift change was coming. I heard about this from my grandmother who lived in the Hub city for just short of a hundred years. I just thought I would pass this along.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 27, 2011 11:33:10 GMT -8
:)in reply to eg fleet's tinted Princess Norah post card, not only did she briefly become the first Queen of the North, I have two prints of her with the blue funnel of the joint CN/CP service, as well as with the Northland livery. She had a very interesting last years of service! :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 4, 2011 17:51:33 GMT -8
Photos of some photos displayed along the wharf at the Maritime Heritage Centre in Port Alberni. - seen by me on December 4, 2011. The old CPR wharf:  Princess Maquinna  |
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 9, 2011 14:46:51 GMT -8
I'm finally getting around to filling out my CP steamer pages and just stumbled across this on the Princess Norah... www.kadiak.org/ships/princess_norah/index.htmlAt the bottom you'll find a photo of what's left of the hull taken earlier this year. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 20, 2011 9:48:10 GMT -8
Postcard of CP's Nanaimo terminal. - this terminal site is now the Cameron Island Condos (1 large tower and 2 low-rises)  Gowen-Sutton postcard. Photographer's name is not noted. |
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