cprfan
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Post by cprfan on Mar 2, 2015 10:23:54 GMT -8
I purchased a copy of Pacific Princesses from Amazon yesterday.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 2, 2015 11:39:59 GMT -8
I purchased a copy of Pacific Princesses from Amazon yesterday. That's a great book. You'll love it. The author does excellent research and presentation. |
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Post by EGfleet on Sept 8, 2015 6:43:20 GMT -8
I meant to post this yesterday...recently purchased this photo. 63 years ago yesterday.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 8, 2015 6:55:25 GMT -8
I meant to post this yesterday...recently purchased this photo. 63 years ago yesterday. Such a sad event. I'm still not fully understanding why the ship ran aground in the 1950s era. I can understand Islander running around in early 1900s, and Princess Sofia in 1918, because of the era of "no navigation aids." But the 'Kathleen ran aground in the era of modern ships like Chinook, in the era of diesel locomotives, etc. ie. the modern era. Accidents still happen (even in 2006) for a variety of reasons. This one was such a waste of a great ship. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 8, 2015 10:53:38 GMT -8
I meant to post this yesterday...recently purchased this photo. 63 years ago yesterday. Such a sad event. I'm still not fully understanding why the ship ran aground in the 1950s era. I can understand Islander running around in early 1900s, and Princess Sofia in 1918, because of the era of "no navigation aids." But the 'Kathleen ran aground in the era of modern ships like Chinook, in the era of diesel locomotives, etc. ie. the modern era. Accidents still happen (even in 2006) for a variety of reasons. This one was such a waste of a great ship. Replying to myself: Steve's Evergreenfleet.com website has a good write-up on the grounding. HEREStrong tides, a driving rain and early morning darkness combined to have her significantly off course. |
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 8, 2015 12:00:01 GMT -8
I meant to post this yesterday...recently purchased this photo. 63 years ago yesterday. Such a sad event. I'm still not fully understanding why the ship ran aground in the 1950s era. I can understand Islander running around in early 1900s, and Princess Sofia in 1918, because of the era of "no navigation aids." But the 'Kathleen ran aground in the era of modern ships like Chinook, in the era of diesel locomotives, etc. ie. the modern era. Accidents still happen (even in 2006) for a variety of reasons. This one was such a waste of a great ship. The first paragraph on page 197 of Robert D. Turner's " The Pacific Princesses", describes in detail the cause of this accident which led to this vessel's untimely loss. The Princess Kathleen had been equipped with radar as early as mid-1951, and was apparently operating on the night of September 7th 1952. Turner writes: " Shortly after the Shelter Island light was passed, the chief officer, Mr. Savage, ordered a change in course to bring the vessel closer to mid-channel. He ordered simply "starboard," instead of the usual "starboard one-quarter point," which would have brought the ship onto the desired course. He then became preoccupied with the approaching squall and forgot to return the vessel to her original course once she had reached the position he wished. Thus, instead of coming to mid-channel, the 'Princess Kathleen' continued across the channel at her cruising speed of ten knots"...... The words, "simply," "usual," "preoccupied," and "forgot" describe conditions of human behaviour, and in the 'Kathleen's' case, these human behaviours led to the sad loss of this vessel. Until robots can be devised and programed to do the tasks required of humans, the mere existence of any sort of mechanical aids in and of themselves is no guarantee that accidents can't happen. It's the:" what we do," the human behaviours, in concert with the benefits of the latest technologies that may lessen the occurrences and gravity of any mis-adventures that come our way. |
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Post by EGfleet on Sept 16, 2015 4:52:34 GMT -8
When the Prince Rupert smacked into the Princess Kathleen, CP sent a packet of photos and a tag to everyone on board the Kathleen that day. Here's the tag, one of the photos and a snapshot of the event I recently picked up.    |
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Post by Mill Bay on Nov 2, 2015 17:06:43 GMT -8
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Post by kymom on Feb 10, 2016 17:13:42 GMT -8
I am an antiquer. I have some very interesting large pictures of the SS Princess Kathleen up right. Something pushing out the side. Then on the other half of the large picture. It shows it almost under. all except for the nose. There is a picture down about 10 people on here but it shows equipment on oppisite side. does that mean is an original and his is a copy of the original? Anyone please help. This picture is with other items dated '52 & 53'. Do u think what i have may have value?
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