Nick
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Post by Nick on Aug 15, 2008 14:01:10 GMT -8
BC Ferries has missed the boat again. It is now 20 minutes to the CI's scheduled departure at Duke Point, and there has been NO service notice issued to advise people of the delay/cancellation. Also, current conditions still says that the 12:45 departed late at 12:57 due to traffic delays. It says nothing about the CI returning. Most people who subscribe to the emailed service notices do so so that they are notified about things like this.
Of course, as I type this, I just received the service notice in my inbox. Still, anybody who will be affected is already at the terminal. I'm sure that they knew that this sailing was going to be canceled at least an hour ago.
Just my vent for the day.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Aug 15, 2008 14:04:11 GMT -8
News 1130 has highlighted the car fire but not on the website yet.
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Post by DENelson83 on Aug 15, 2008 14:13:06 GMT -8
Car fire? Ouch!
And the BCF Departures/Arrivals page simply labels that particular sailing as "Traffic delays". I think "Major incident" would be more appropriate here.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 15, 2008 14:19:48 GMT -8
Glad I am not trying to get a ferry at Departure Bay. Imagine if this had happened when the Rennie was in drydock. That extra lift is gonna be needed tonight.
*Hard to tell if Departure Bay is just busy with normal weekend traffic or if indeed a lot of people left Duke for Departure Bay.
** Spoke too soon. Departure Bay is showing completely booked at 5:52pm PST.
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Post by kerryssi on Aug 16, 2008 15:04:38 GMT -8
Two employees suffered smoke inhalation, two suffered dehydration while containing the fire on the car deck. None went to the hospital. That crew started their shift at 0430 and ended it after 2020 when the ship arrived at Duke Pt. They started their next shift at 0430 the next morning. No "thank yous" from the corporation.
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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Aug 16, 2008 15:36:13 GMT -8
Boy the Coastal's are getting a lot of bad press, lets hope this changes for good!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 3, 2008 11:26:32 GMT -8
I checked the BCFS website today re the fleet profile and the list of each vessel's amenities:
C-Inspiration's list doesn't include the SeaWest Lounge anymore.
So, assuming that there was a deliberate purpose in not including this item on the web-page profile, it appears that BCFS has confirmed the "Coastal Lite" status of the C'Inspiration on Route-30.
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2nd item: - The men's washroom has more fixtures/stalls in the Deck-5 location, then the Deck-6 location. But the Deck-5 one is always closed.
......not that I've seen an out-of-the-door lineup for the Deck-6 washroom, but this is an interesting quirk of Coastal-Lite.
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Post by Dane on Oct 3, 2008 11:37:10 GMT -8
I checked the BCFS website today re the fleet profile and the list of each vessel's amenities: C-Inspiration's list doesn't include the SeaWest Lounge anymore. So, assuming that there was a deliberate purpose in not including this item on the web-page profile, it appears that BCFS has confirmed the "Coastal Lite" status of the C'Inspiration on Route-30. ----------------- 2nd item: - The men's washroom has more fixtures/stalls in the Deck-5 location, then the Deck-6 location. But the Deck-5 one is always closed. ......not that I've seen an out-of-the-door lineup for the Deck-6 washroom, but this is an interesting quirk of Coastal-Lite. Interesting, I certainly wouldn't have noticed that. Thanks for posting it. Obviously Rte 30 is never run with an A License, I am curious are they on a B, or a C for a majority of trips?
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ProudCanuck
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Post by ProudCanuck on Oct 3, 2008 11:39:09 GMT -8
I checked the BCFS website today re the fleet profile and the list of each vessel's amenities: C-Inspiration's list doesn't include the SeaWest Lounge anymore. So, assuming that there was a deliberate purpose in not including this item on the web-page profile, it appears that BCFS has confirmed the "Coastal Lite" status of the C'Inspiration on Route-30. ----------------- 2nd item: - The men's washroom has more fixtures/stalls in the Deck-5 location, then the Deck-6 location. But the Deck-5 one is always closed. ......not that I've seen an out-of-the-door lineup for the Deck-6 washroom, but this is an interesting quirk of Coastal-Lite. I picked up a brochure of the CI when I was on it in July. It had the layout of the ship and the Seawest Loung and Deck 5 were greyed out and listed as "Future Passenger Ammenities"
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Post by gordon on Oct 3, 2008 12:14:56 GMT -8
I wonder if this is some kind of minor cost saving measure.
Were they oit supposed to be identical ships so they could be used interchangeably on the the 3 major routes?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 3, 2008 12:19:27 GMT -8
I wonder if this is some kind of minor cost saving measure. Were they oit supposed to be identical ships so they could be used interchangeably on the the 3 major routes? correct on both counts, Mr. Premier.
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Post by Hardy on Oct 6, 2008 12:12:41 GMT -8
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Post by Northern Exploration on Oct 6, 2008 13:14:55 GMT -8
I had checked out Siitech earlier this morning and Celeb was on her usual training run to TSW and I was trying to remember when (if ever) the Celeb had met the Rennie. Rennie had left FSG before the Celeb was out of the shed. Now they will meet at TSW for sure.
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Post by Hardy on Oct 6, 2008 16:22:58 GMT -8
Replying HERE from the CR thread to keep CI stuff in the CI thread .... Do we know how this happened? Nothing concrete, but I heard it was something to do with an electrical overload when going into mode two. I sure hope that this was a ONE-OFF freak type occurrence and is not endemic to the Coastal Class. Undoubtedly, FSG is involved as well to see if it is an unexpected builder-related occurrence too. I am assuming that the DP crew just switched boats? Exactly. Well, for ONCE something actually makes sense in the way that a crew/boat swap was handled.
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Quatchi
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Post by Quatchi on Oct 6, 2008 18:07:11 GMT -8
I had checked out Siitech earlier this morning and Celeb was on her usual training run to TSW and I was trying to remember when (if ever) the Celeb had met the Rennie. Rennie had left FSG before the Celeb was out of the shed. Now they will meet at TSW for sure. Celebration and Renaissance were berthmates in Departure bay for a while there. cheers,
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Post by gordon on Oct 6, 2008 19:52:59 GMT -8
How difficult will it be for BCf to replace the #2 alternator on the CI, I would suspect that these parts would be included in their supply of spare parts at Deas?
Can Deas handle the Coastals?
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Post by Canucks on Oct 6, 2008 19:54:55 GMT -8
Hopefully she won't need to go to Deas for an alternator. Although it may take a while if there are a bunch of warranty hoops to jump through. Someone more informed can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Hardy on Oct 7, 2008 9:48:22 GMT -8
How difficult will it be for BCf to replace the #2 alternator on the CI I don't think that the replacement of the unit itself (or repair thereof) would be ALL that complicated or time consuming, AS LONG AS it was simply the alternator, and not some other contributing factor, or a cascading issue that affected several systems. Looking at the info in the CR thread, I would think that BCFS should have the CI back in service by this weekend's rush (ie: Thursday), and the CR swapped back to Rte-2, BARRING of course, some "hidden" issues with the CI (ie: did something else somewhere CAUSE the alt to fry?) I would suspect that these parts would be included in their supply of spare parts at Deas? Can Deas handle the Coastals? Don't know that they keep a complete alternator set sitting as a spare. I would imagine that it is a PART of the alternator that is non-functional, and if they do not have it, that they can source it, or a suitable alternate(!) in a reasonable time frame. Worst case, seeing that the CC is not yet in service, if there is a long delay in sourcing out the part or the whole alternator, they COULD always "cannibalize" one out of the CC to get the CI back running and then reinstall the new/replacement one into the CC. As for Deas, notwithstanding the fact that it is currently FULL of vessels, yes, the design of the Coastals allows them to dock at Deas, if that is what you were asking!
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Post by Hardy on Oct 7, 2008 9:51:22 GMT -8
Hopefully she won't need to go to Deas for an alternator. Although it may take a while if there are a bunch of warranty hoops to jump through. Someone more informed can correct me if I'm wrong. If it IS a straight up alternator failure issue, I cannot see it as being a huge deal, either to replace it nor for it to be a warranty issue. However, if there is a systemic fault somewhere that caused the alternator to malfunction, then I can foresee some "hoops". As yourself, I am an "armchair" quarterback, so I will also stand by for someone with a better inside track to correct me if I am mistaken as well.
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Post by herrbrinkmann on Oct 7, 2008 9:57:04 GMT -8
As far as I know (I am only Mr. Steel...) it is only a little piece of copper (maybe half an arm length) that has to be exchanged. It is a part specially manufactured for this type of alternator. So this should not be a big deal.
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Post by Hardy on Oct 7, 2008 10:05:42 GMT -8
As far as I know (I am only Mr. Steel...) it is only a little piece of copper (maybe half an arm length) that has to be exchanged. It is a part specially manufactured for this type of alternator. So this should not be a big deal. Thanks, Markus the Steel Man, for the quick answer. We have a hard time trying to get any information out of BCFS, so sometimes going 9000km away is the quickest source of information!
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Oct 7, 2008 10:17:06 GMT -8
As far as I know (I am only Mr. Steel...) it is only a little piece of copper (maybe half an arm length) that has to be exchanged. It is a part specially manufactured for this type of alternator. So this should not be a big deal. Markus, Is it a fusible link that needs to be replaced? If so, at least the overload protection did its job!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Oct 7, 2008 10:20:39 GMT -8
Yes we have to think up ways to keep Herr Stahl Mann involved on the forum even after the NorEx is in service. ;D
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Post by Hardy on Oct 7, 2008 13:27:34 GMT -8
Yes we have to think up ways to keep Herr Stahl Mann involved on the forum even after the NorEx is in service. ;D Here, here! As I said in my earlier reply, it is great to be able to get answers from Markus as we cannot seem to get these details out of BCFS ... Even after FSG's involvement stops (ie: all newbuilds completed), I would be more than happy to see his continued participation in our forum!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Oct 9, 2008 6:41:54 GMT -8
She is back in service this morning. The first sailing though was 30 minutes late with an operational delay. Maybe repositioning her took some time.
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