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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on Feb 13, 2018 9:47:07 GMT -8
It would be nice if BC Ferries did to their ships like WSF do by applying a gold ribbon on their funnels to denote 50 years of service. Seconded. like the Yakima and Hyak WSF |
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Post by arrrrmatey on May 7, 2018 13:39:24 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the Burnaby is still at Deas? Or if not, where she is...
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Post by Mike on May 7, 2018 15:29:59 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the Burnaby is still at Deas? Or if not, where she is... Yes, she's still at Deas. |
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Post by Scott on May 8, 2018 12:18:31 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on May 8, 2018 13:06:31 GMT -8
Thanks for the info, Scott. Looks like Burnaby's fate is sealed. I guess better this than languishing on a shore somewhere slowly detiorating. |
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Post by Neil on May 8, 2018 13:28:27 GMT -8
Thanks for the info, Scott. Looks like Burnaby's fate is sealed. I guess better this than languishing on a shore somewhere slowly detiorating. Interesting to contrast the disposal of the ' Burnaby to that of the Taku. The latter's owners hired a crew, bought fuel and sailed her halfway around the world to Alang to be scrapped, which seems to me to be a really expensive way to deal with a modest sized vessel. A tow to Ensenada seems more sensible, but maybe there's a large difference in what the two boneyards pay. I'm curious also about this contract being offered by BC Ferries, since the ' Burnaby has been sold. I guess the new owners hired BC Ferries to facilitate the move. |
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Post by Starsteward on May 10, 2018 6:33:36 GMT -8
Thanks for the info, Scott. Looks like Burnaby's fate is sealed. I guess better this than languishing on a shore somewhere slowly detiorating. Interesting to contrast the disposal of the ' Burnaby to that of the Taku. The latter's owners hired a crew, bought fuel and sailed her halfway around the world to Alang to be scrapped, which seems to me to be a really expensive way to deal with a modest sized vessel. A tow to Ensenada seems more sensible, but maybe there's a large difference in what the two boneyards pay. I'm curious also about this contract being offered by BC Ferries, since the ' Burnaby has been sold. I guess the new owners hired BC Ferries to facilitate the move. The fact that BCFS has issued this 'proposal' is very interesting. The 'for-sale' listing made the BCFS position very clear, that being, the buyer was responsible for absolutely Everything upon completion of the sale. Why BCFS would re-engage a government agency at this stage is puzzling. What's in it for BCFS to spend time and effort moving an asset out of Deas? Is there a possibility that the final sale did not go according to plan and BCFS is merely selling the 'Burnaby' to the Mexican scrappers on their own. Towing vessels to Ensenada has been done before after all.  |
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on May 10, 2018 8:24:19 GMT -8
 The Queen of Burnaby awaiting disposition at Deas, dwarfed by the Northern Expedition. Seeing the Northern Expedition(looks like a Cruise Ship) next to Burnaby is hilarious, I never realized how BIG/small they were, LOL |
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Post by WettCoast on May 10, 2018 8:43:35 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby awaiting disposition at Deas, dwarfed by the Northern Expedition. Seeing the Northern Expedition(looks like a Cruise Ship) next to Burnaby is hilarious, I never realized how BIG/small they were, LOL The NorEx is indeed a much larger vessel, but you need to keep in mind that the auto & passenger capacity of the Burnaby was actually greater. |
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on May 10, 2018 9:17:28 GMT -8
Seeing the Northern Expedition(looks like a Cruise Ship) next to Burnaby is hilarious, I never realized how BIG/small they were, LOL The NorEx is indeed a much larger vessel, but you need to keep in mind that the auto & passenger capacity of the Burnaby was actually greater. Oh, That is something that i did not know |
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Post by Neil on May 10, 2018 9:27:11 GMT -8
Interesting to contrast the disposal of the ' Burnaby to that of the Taku. The latter's owners hired a crew, bought fuel and sailed her halfway around the world to Alang to be scrapped, which seems to me to be a really expensive way to deal with a modest sized vessel. A tow to Ensenada seems more sensible, but maybe there's a large difference in what the two boneyards pay. I'm curious also about this contract being offered by BC Ferries, since the ' Burnaby has been sold. I guess the new owners hired BC Ferries to facilitate the move. The fact that BCFS has issued this 'proposal' is very interesting. The 'for-sale' listing made the BCFS position very clear, that being, the buyer was responsible for absolutely Everything upon completion of the sale. Why BCFS would re-engage a government agency at this stage is puzzling. What's in it for BCFS to spend time and effort moving an asset out of Deas? Is there a possibility that the final sale did not go according to plan and BCFS is merely selling the 'Burnaby' to the Mexican scrappers on their own. Towing vessels to Ensenada has been done before after all. I had forgotten that the condition of sale said that, so maybe you're right and there was a problem finalizing the deal. In that case, I imagine BC Ferries might have just given up on finding another buyer. |
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Post by Starsteward on May 11, 2018 11:07:10 GMT -8
The fact that BCFS has issued this 'proposal' is very interesting. The 'for-sale' listing made the BCFS position very clear, that being, the buyer was responsible for absolutely Everything upon completion of the sale. Why BCFS would re-engage a government agency at this stage is puzzling. What's in it for BCFS to spend time and effort moving an asset out of Deas? Is there a possibility that the final sale did not go according to plan and BCFS is merely selling the 'Burnaby' to the Mexican scrappers on their own. Towing vessels to Ensenada has been done before after all. I had forgotten that the condition of sale said that, so maybe you're right and there was a problem finalizing the deal. In that case, I imagine BC Ferries might have just given up on finding another buyer. Are there any 'insiders' among our learned group that could shed some light on this puzzling development? I may be wrong but I believe that BCFS could not legally assist a public buyer of a government asset. |
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Post by Neil on Jun 21, 2018 19:14:55 GMT -8
 For the poor old ex- Queen of Burnaby, Deas is the graveyard's waiting room. All her former sisters have departed for their busy summer service, and she has the place to herself, sitting derelict and looking forward to nothing more than the tow line that will drag her to the blowtorches of Ensenada. |
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Post by lselena53 on Jul 24, 2018 15:44:53 GMT -8
Any update on the status of the Burnaby since these posts? Is she still at Deas?
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Post by Neil on Jul 24, 2018 17:42:30 GMT -8
Any update on the status of the Burnaby since these posts? Is she still at Deas? Saw her there about ten days ago. |
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Post by nannyman on Jul 25, 2018 19:46:05 GMT -8
Any update on the status of the Burnaby since these posts? Is she still at Deas? Saw her there about ten days ago. Drove past her this evening. Still at Deas. |
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Post by Scott on Jul 25, 2018 20:42:22 GMT -8
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Post by nannyman on Jul 26, 2018 19:50:22 GMT -8
I took a swing by while I was over last Tuesday... Her whistles have been removed. I'm told her whistles have been retained by BC Ferries for use elsewhere. |
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Post by Neil on Jul 28, 2018 17:16:08 GMT -8
I imagine this is the same sort of glitch as those Marine Traffic 'sightings' of the Queen of Esquimalt near Swartz Bay, but that site is currently showing the 'Burnaby at Anacortes.
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Post by Neil on Aug 20, 2018 17:37:11 GMT -8
I imagine this is the same sort of glitch as those Marine Traffic 'sightings' of the Queen of Esquimalt near Swartz Bay, but that site is currently showing the ' Burnaby at Anacortes. Boy, for a dead ship, she really gets around... now Marine Traffic has her, as of eighty minutes ago, doing five knots, and heading into Snug Cove. |
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Post by nannyman on Oct 3, 2018 10:59:12 GMT -8
Any updates or details on Queen of Burnaby's final trip southbound?
I've been told it will be in the near future.
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Post by Starsteward on Oct 3, 2018 13:35:42 GMT -8
Any updates or details on Queen of Burnaby's final trip southbound? I've been told it will be in the near future. I would assume by now that the 'sale' of the 'Burnaby' earlier this year has fallen through for whatever reason(s). It's been quite a while since we've sent one of the oldies to the chopping block. Just a thought here: Since we ship these vessels off with all their seating etc., wouldn't there possible be someone or some organization out there that could benefit from some free furniture. Chairs, tables, benches, maybe even some of the galley equipment? I've seen pictures of shops in and around Alang, India that are chock-a-block with furniture, fittings, fixtures of all descriptions that have been stripped out of vessels before they meet the final blowtorch.  |
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Post by Brandon S on Oct 3, 2018 17:11:59 GMT -8
Any updates or details on Queen of Burnaby's final trip southbound? I've been told it will be in the near future. I would assume by now that the 'sale' of the 'Burnaby' earlier this year has fallen through for whatever reason(s). It's been quite a while since we've sent one of the oldies to the chopping block. Just a thought here: Since we ship these vessels off with all their seating etc., wouldn't there possible be someone or some organization out there that could benefit from some free furniture. Chairs, tables, benches, maybe even some of the galley equipment? I've seen pictures of shops in and around Alang, India that are chock-a-block with furniture, fittings, fixtures of all descriptions that have been stripped out of vessels before they meet the final blowtorch. My stepdad recently went on the Burnaby while he was working at Deas. He said that everything had been removed and it was very empty inside. There is a chance that BCF has kept the furniture in a building somewhere at Deas, or sold it off already |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 16, 2018 20:19:07 GMT -8
There was a news article a few days ago, where the BC Ferries CEO was quoted lamenting the amount of paperwork and related paperwork-delays involved in "recycling a ship." ie. to transfer the Queen of Burnaby to someone who will scrap her.
This paperwork problem was given as the reason why the Burnaby is still at Deas.
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Post by Starsteward on Oct 17, 2018 8:02:06 GMT -8
There was a news article a few days ago, where the BC Ferries CEO was quoted lamenting the amount of paperwork and related paperwork-delays involved in "recycling a ship." ie. to transfer the Queen of Burnaby to someone who will scrap her. This paperwork problem was given as the reason why the Burnaby is still at Deas. With this news from BCFS it is very apparent that the initial sale of the 'Q of B' fell through for reasons that aside from doing a freedom of information request, (which may or may not ever be forthcoming) we will never know who welched on the purchase. Wondering, why can't BCFS just sell the 'Burnaby' to a scrap yard directly? Does BCFS expect to receive any money from a go-between scrap dealer? Surely BCFS isn't going to let the old girl go for absolutely nothing? |
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