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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 12, 2010 9:22:25 GMT -8
re the listing 'Burnaby, as viewed from the Bowen Queen on 11/11/10: here are 2 stills:   |
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 12, 2010 10:46:43 GMT -8
Haha wow. We're getting really technical here over a slight list.
In short answer, yes it is a little trickier to steer. But all you need to do is apply some constant counter helm to keep her going straight.
The Burnaby/Nanaimo don't have the sponsoned out hulls that the V-Class have/had, so they're really tender ships. The other night I watched a commercial truck drive down the outside lane of the car deck while there were cars stowed on the two inner lanes port and starboard of the centerline casing. Loading of vehicles had to be stopped until the truck was parked where it needed it to be, because the fingers on the side of the apron the ship was on were coming up and off the deck. Also, when the ship is loaded at Tsawwassen, the car deck is divided up to sections for certain destinations of vehicles. The vessel is loaded on an even keel there, but once they start taking cars off, especially at Mayne, then the list becomes more obvious as you can see. Happens everyday on Route 9. This was another reason why the Queen of the Islands was a bad vessel to have on the route at the time, she couldn't handle the constant imbalance of vehicles.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 12, 2010 14:38:10 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby nearing Berth 2, Tsawwassen. Soon after taking the photo above, I, along with a group of forum members were approached by a terminal attendant while seated at the Berth 2 waiting room at Tsawwassen. He claimed that we were taking photos of the interior of the terminal (which we were not) and of the ships from the terminal (yes, we were doing this) and that doing so is not allowed due to TC regulations. He said that he would call security on us if we did not stop, yet he never asked us what the purpose was of the photos we were taking (...which should have been the first thing he asked if he was concerned)...
Obviously, he did not know what he was talking about, nor who he was telling this to. If we were not catching the next sailing, we would have had a chat with the terminal manager to make sure this employee would be made aware that photography is permitted as long as it is not taken in restricted areas...Queen of Burnaby at Village Bay, Mayne Island.
Queen of Burnaby en route to Otter Bay, Pender Island.
...with SOVI
...with Princess Superior
All photos taken yesterday...
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Post by deepsea on Nov 14, 2010 2:40:53 GMT -8
While we are on the subject of listing;
I was on route 9 in March. I don't remember, the Nanaimo listing. I was sitting/standing outside on the starboard for the entire cruise. Maybe, it's more noticeable, from the outside point of view?
On the subject of the attendant; Somebody should have told him about the forum. Might see a group of people, taking pictures of the ships, asking odd questions, that happens to know everything about the ferries, etc.
"Dammit, we are ferry fanatics, not tourists!" ;D
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 15, 2010 1:21:02 GMT -8
Just like the Major routes, Route 9 was also very busy coming off the Gulf Islands tonight. First of two trips to Tsawwassen was completely full tonight. Here was traffic from Long Harbour, transfers from the Mayne Queen at Village Bay (Pender and Saturna), as well as Galiano. It's not too often you see the Burnaby used to her full potential on Route 17, and you really notice it when she's near license for passengers with just one passenger deck open to the public compared to the Nanaimo.  Ah, what the heck. Here's a couple of scenery shots as well. Looking North at Trincomali Channel, after just rounding Peely Point of Portland Island.  Long Harbour, 3pm and it's already getting dark and foggy. That little Island in the center of the harbour is called Clamshell Island  |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 15, 2010 10:13:01 GMT -8
Well really passengers are allowed on the outside upper decks and the only really difference is I think the Solarium and the Aft Lounge on the Nanaimo. But even on the Nanaimo it's cramped when it's really full I would assume.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 15, 2010 22:15:58 GMT -8
Haha wow. We're getting really technical here over a slight list. Out of curiosity, do any of the vessels have the capability to ballast themselves to compensate for a list or trim issue? |
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Post by Curtis on Nov 20, 2010 21:29:31 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 25, 2010 18:30:54 GMT -8
Q'Burnaby at Westview, on Dec.25, 2009.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2010 20:31:24 GMT -8
The Q-Burnaby taken from Westview Terminal in Powell River BC. I think this is from March 2006.   (photo credits to Mrs. Horn) |
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 29, 2010 17:52:49 GMT -8
A Queen of Burnaby time capsule moment. This was once the duty free lounge when she sailed on voyages to Seattle. It's kind of neat to look around and imagine how it once looked in there, with the way the lighting is still setup.  ...and also, a layover at Tsawwassen  The Chief Officer's office also has a nice collection of photos on the wall. Sorry for the blurryness, but you get the idea.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 29, 2010 20:29:28 GMT -8
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Post by Mike on Nov 29, 2010 20:50:28 GMT -8
From a 2007 archived thread. Post done by member Retro: ======================== The Queen of Burnaby arriving at Westview terminal, Powell River:  The 'Burnaby looks pretty decent when her exterior paint is fresh. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 2, 2010 21:36:54 GMT -8
from a 2007 archived post, done by member FerryMan: - 'Burnaby in dry-dock in early 2007 at North Vancouver =============  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 5, 2010 19:39:00 GMT -8
More historical additions from the 1970's & 80's courtesy of my brother, Mr. DOT, and his camera...  Q of Burnaby @ Tsawwassen Terminal - summer 1983 |
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 11, 2010 18:59:21 GMT -8
Here's what the staterooms look like on the Burnaby. They all have the same sort of decor theme with varying degrees of stuff stored inside such as old chairs or lifejackets. Here's one of the empty ones  Here's the wake yesterday morning as seen from the mooring flats while sailing through Active Pass  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 20, 2010 19:08:53 GMT -8
Karl has given me permission to post some photos from his Facebook albums. - I've adjusted the contrast & colours a bit, and here are some of his photos relating to this thread: ------------------------------- - mid-ship lounge  - at Otter Bay  - at Long Harbour  - in front of Poet's Cove at Pender Island  |
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 21, 2010 0:02:20 GMT -8
For fun, I've brought my old Fotopic site back up online again. It's kind of neat to look back at what the Burnaby used to look like before her 2007/8(?) Coastalization. photosbychris2006.fotopic.net/c934772.html |
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Post by Dane on Dec 29, 2010 0:07:37 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 25, 2011 14:55:34 GMT -8
Another video upload from back in the day. This one was taken by Alan (Airchime) back in the early millenium. Anyways, here she is arriving at Westview with her Expo gown on after serving between Victoria and Seattle .
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Post by FerryDude2012 on Feb 23, 2011 19:32:02 GMT -8
Ferry's emergency lighting appears substandard: Coons By Andrew MacLeod February 23, 2011 03:01 pm A BC Ferries vessel appears to be using glow sticks and flashlights for emergency lighting, contrary to federal regulations, NDP ferry critic Gary Coons wrote in a letter to Transportation Minister Shirley Bond. "It has been brought to my attention that the emergency lighting in parts of the BC Ferry ship may not meet federal safety standards," Coons wrote in the Feb. 17 letter. "Has BC Ferries received exclusions which allow for glow sticks, stick-on push button LED lights and flashlights?" Coons included photos from the Queen of Burnaby, a vessel used on the Powell River to Comox route, showing the lighting. He cited the federal regulation: "All passenger public spaces and alleyways shall be provided with supplementary electric lighting that can operate for at least three hours when all other sources of electric power have failed." Inspectors can also accept "any other means of lighting which is at least as effective." "The Queen of Burnaby has a fully compliant certificate with no exceptions as referenced by Mr. Coons," BC Ferries spokesperson Deborah Marshall said in an email. "It meets Transport Canada regulations. The ship has an IMO approved emergency lighting system run off an emergency generator and a UPS battery system as a back-up." Asked about the photos, she said she had not seen them. After The Tyee forwarded three of them to her, she wrote, "It appears these lights are for convenience. They are in no way part of, or replacing the emergency lighting system." A source familiar with the vessel said that while there are proper emergency lights on the outside decks, there are not in the two areas used in emergency evacuations. BC Ferries is a publicly-owned private company. A Transportation and Infrastructure ministry spokesperson said the government would make a statement but it was not ready by publication time. Nor was Transport Canada ready to give a response on short notice. Despite safety concerns raised after the sinking of the Queen of the North and other incidents, BC Ferries under the leadership of President and CEO David Hahn appears to want to keep vessels running despite serious safety concerns, Coons said in an email to The Tyee. "This is very concerning," he wrote. "What has the CEO and this government learned from previous incidents? Are glowsticks and stick-on LEDs part and parcel of the new safety culture developed by our million dollar man?" Link: thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/BC-Politics/2011/02/23/FerryLights/ |
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Post by lmtengs on Feb 23, 2011 20:57:00 GMT -8
I think they're overplaying a minor issue here. I was on the QoBurnaby in 2009, and unless they've taken down safety features that were previously in place, then it's as safe as anyone would need it to be. Definitely safer than any ferry was 20, 30 years ago. Funny thing too, nobody complained back then, so why now, when we have twice as much safety and security equipment on-board, from CCTV, to technologically-advanced emergency evacuation equipment?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 4, 2011 20:32:27 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 2, 2011 16:26:30 GMT -8
For those anticipating a replacement for the Queen of Burnaby (and Nanaimo too) before March 2016, you may be disappointed.
The news from this week regarding the Ferry Commissioner's review of the Performance term-3 submission suggests that the Commissioner will ask BCFS to come up with a cheaper alternative to a "like for like" replacement of each of these ships.
This might mean a delay, a life-extension, or some sort of smaller or cheaper replacement.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 2, 2011 18:20:03 GMT -8
For those anticipating a replacement for the Queen of Burnaby (and Nanaimo too) before March 2016, you may be disappointed. The news from this week regarding the Ferry Commissioner's review of the Performance term-3 submission suggests that the Commissioner will ask BCFS to come up with a cheaper alternative to a "like for like" replacement of each of these ships. This might mean a delay, a life-extension, or some sort of smaller or cheaper replacement. This makes me happy, and disappointed. Happy, because we get to keep our vintage ferries longer, and disappointed, because they really have to find a way to get a handle on the financial situation that the ferry service is facing without blowing fares through the roof, or blowing holes through the roofs of ferries due to maintenance neglect... |
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