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Post by paulvanb on Jun 10, 2020 14:54:26 GMT -8
Vewsselfinder has her just off the south end of Texada Island. Does anyone know where she is headed?
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Post by Mike on Jun 10, 2020 18:13:39 GMT -8
Vewsselfinder has her just off the south end of Texada Island. Does anyone know where she is headed? Heading for Deas, like the post Curtis shared stated would happen.
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Post by paulvanb on Jun 10, 2020 18:16:21 GMT -8
Well, I was hopeful.
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Post by paddlehardercafe on Jun 10, 2020 20:47:08 GMT -8
officially tucked into bed at Deas......
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Post by Mike on Jun 10, 2020 21:47:18 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Jun 11, 2020 8:32:26 GMT -8
Thanks 'Mike' for taking the initiative to go out and get these final pictures of the 'North Island Princess' as she eases her bedraggled self up the Fraser River to her final tie-up and "finished with engines" ring at Deas. The rust-streaked exterior almost made me weep because I felt I was witnessing an aging show-queen stumble off center-stage for the last time. No more glitz and glamour of face-paint and frills, tired body exiting stage right, into a dimly lit bench, backstage. 'Thanks for the memories, old girl'
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Post by paulvanb on Jun 11, 2020 15:29:51 GMT -8
For more on the (North) Island Princess's 1971 conversion see the very first post on page 1 of this thread. This work was done almost 40 years ago! I have also scanned 3 pages from BC Ferries' Fleet Bulletin of June 1971. This is from my brother's collection* and features some of his artwork. Artwork by D.O. Thorne 1971 ©*The DOT Collection, 1971 While going through the archives of the NIP I am bring this back to our most current posts of her. In reading this I cannot believe how fast they did her rebuild. Many thanks to Wettcoast for the original post.
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Post by Scott on Jun 13, 2020 22:54:24 GMT -8
My last photos of the NIP as a BC Ferry... Final approach to Westview, final departure from Blubber Bay, and passing her replacement off Grilse Point.
June 10, 2020The following images posted by this account are copyright © S.A. ~ Unauthorized use is prohibited.
BC Ferries - NIP makes her final approach to Westview, Powell River. by Scott, on Flickr BC Ferries - NIP makes her final approach to Westview, Powell River. by Scott, on Flickr BC Ferries - NIP departs Blubber Bay, Texada Island for her last time. by Scott, on Flickr BC Ferries - NIP departs Blubber Bay, Texada Island for her last time. by Scott, on Flickr BC Ferries - NIP and Island Discovery pass of Grilse Point. by Scott, on Flickr
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Post by paulvanb on Jul 18, 2020 16:31:59 GMT -8
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Post by marine20 on Jul 18, 2020 21:02:40 GMT -8
Hi! Saw this in the news and am a complete newbie so appreciate if someone can provide some insight...why so darn cheap?!! Can you do anything economically reasonable with vessel - retrofit, houseboat, etc. and/or sail it or is honestly just old rusty steel with horrible engines ready to be salvaged?
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Post by Neil on Jul 18, 2020 21:47:51 GMT -8
Hi! Saw this in the news and am a complete newbie so appreciate if someone can provide some insight...why so darn cheap?!! Can you do anything economically reasonable with vessel - retrofit, houseboat, etc. and/or sail it or is honestly just old rusty steel with horrible engines ready to be salvaged? It's so cheap because of prior recent experience in B.C. as well as stateside with ship disposal. The prospects are dismal. The price of recycled steel is low, and I don't believe any firm in BC could render down a vessel this size, so someone would have to invest in a tow to Mexico. The cost of getting all the machinery and other recyclables out is also prohibitive. Then, you might look at what role a vessel like this could have if repurposed, and again, the experience of recent decades is not positive. If BC Ferries actually does get the North Island Princess of their books for the sum asked, and if she's then disposed of in a timely and responsible manner, it will definitely be the exception to the rule.
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Post by marine20 on Jul 18, 2020 22:59:09 GMT -8
Thanks for your response but why exactly is it not useable as houseboat or something fun like that? Is is because it's too big so moorage, insurance etc would be stupid? Or is it not seaworthy because the steel, wiring, plumbing all goes bad in salt water after 60 years, etc? I'm asking because you see a lot of horrible, cheap, decrepit looking houseboats and this thing looks cool ? If you're right and the market is crap it's not worth anything then. And finally, did the Nimpkish gets sold...price? Thanks for your time in advance...really interesting learning curve and I think it would be cool to live on one of these things!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 19, 2020 8:33:38 GMT -8
Thanks for your response but why exactly is it not useable as houseboat or something fun like that? Is is because it's too big so moorage, insurance etc would be stupid? Or is it not seaworthy because the steel, wiring, plumbing all goes bad in salt water after 60 years, etc? I'm asking because you see a lot of horrible, cheap, decrepit looking houseboats and this thing looks cool ? If you're right and the market is crap it's not worth anything then. And finally, did the Nimpkish gets sold...price? Thanks for your time in advance...really interesting learning curve and I think it would be cool to live on one of these things! I don't have much time to invest in this, other than to say that asbestos is usually a big issue with old ferries. Any kind of interior renovation would have costly haz-mat issues. As to whether insurance would be stupid: no, insuring an asset is usually a smart thing to do.
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Post by marine20 on Jul 19, 2020 17:33:35 GMT -8
Thanks Mike...and I meant stupid as in economically unwise and/or cost prohibitive. I imagine like aircraft that the holding costs would be huge irrespective of the operating costs. I read up on the BCFC asbestos lawsuits and your 100% right, it's a major concern on this vessel along with lead paint, obsolete parts and technology and other negatives itemized in some of the survey info released.
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Post by Neil on Jul 19, 2020 19:13:36 GMT -8
Thanks for your response but why exactly is it not useable as houseboat or something fun like that? Is is because it's too big so moorage, insurance etc would be stupid? Or is it not seaworthy because the steel, wiring, plumbing all goes bad in salt water after 60 years, etc? I'm asking because you see a lot of horrible, cheap, decrepit looking houseboats and this thing looks cool ? If you're right and the market is crap it's not worth anything then. And finally, did the Nimpkish gets sold...price? Thanks for your time in advance...really interesting learning curve and I think it would be cool to live on one of these things! Look up all the retired BC Ferries, WSF, and AMHS vessels. Their outcomes are not cheerful. The only car ferry in BC that I can recall becoming a houseboat was the Ethel Hunter, a little six car vessel that used to serve Thetis and Penelakut. That size was doable. For every reason you care to imagine, the NIP is probably impractical for any use anyone might think of, particularly in our COVID compromised era.
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Post by ferryfangeorge on Aug 30, 2020 7:31:27 GMT -8
Looks like the NIP has a deal pending. I wonder if it will go through?
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Post by Shane on Sept 4, 2020 13:23:25 GMT -8
Powell River's Townsite Brewing did a makeover on one of their beer can designs and paid tribute to the North Island Princess! Attachments:
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Post by Neil on Sept 14, 2020 17:48:12 GMT -8
Looks like she might have been sold. A post on the facebook BC Maritime site has a photo of her being towed, and on the sale site, it's listed as 'sale pending', as mentioned here a couple of posts back. Hopefully, more information to come.
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Post by Mike C on Sept 17, 2020 6:10:30 GMT -8
Looks like she might have been sold. A post on the facebook BC Maritime site has a photo of her being towed, and on the sale site, it's listed as 'sale pending', as mentioned here a couple of posts back. Hopefully, more information to come. Following the tug’s AIS, she appears to have been towed to the wharf adjacent to the old mill north of Campbell River, alongside the Royal City Star.
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 17, 2020 12:51:59 GMT -8
Looks like she might have been sold. A post on the facebook BC Maritime site has a photo of her being towed, and on the sale site, it's listed as 'sale pending', as mentioned here a couple of posts back. Hopefully, more information to come. Following the tug’s AIS, she appears to have been towed to the wharf adjacent to the old mill north of Campbell River, alongside the Royal City Star. I cannot believe that the Royal City Star is still in Campbell River! She must be glued to the seafloor by now, as it has been eons since she got run out of the Royal City.
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Post by Scott on Dec 6, 2020 3:43:42 GMT -8
Following the tug’s AIS, she appears to have been towed to the wharf adjacent to the old mill north of Campbell River, alongside the Royal City Star. Confirmed. This is the best shot I could get from the highway without trespassing on private property. She's at the northern end of this ship graveyard alongside the former CCGS Provo Wallis. Former BC Ferries' North Island Princess moored north of Campbell River. by Scott, on Flickr
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 16, 2021 18:33:35 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Jan 16, 2021 22:24:15 GMT -8
With the apparently closed registry of the ex- Mill Bay, I guess this makes the North Island Princess the oldest self-propelled former ferry on our coast... since the TC registry says she's still powered. Thanks for your perusal of the TC register on the three ferries, Chris.
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Post by Mike on Feb 2, 2021 18:28:28 GMT -8
A recent find, a slide of the Island Princess, taken a few years before her big makeover. Sadly there is no photographer listed on the slide to credit...or any location info. Simply stamped October 1967. Island Princess by Michael, on Flickr
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 2, 2021 19:12:02 GMT -8
A recent find, a slide of the Island Princess, taken a few years before her big makeover. Sadly there is no photographer listed on the slide to credit...or any location info. Simply stamped October 1967. This might be at Alder Bay, just north of Beaver Cove, and south of Port McNeill.
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