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In Rough Weather, the NIP has to connect her Bow Line to a cable fixed on one of the Dolphins at Westview. This is the position she takes so crew can connect the lines. North Island Princess by CS16 Photography, on Flickr
Taken when David was using a Kodak Instamatic; remember them?
The Island Princess was then a privately owned ferry (Coast Ferries). In 1969 the ferry, and the route it served, were acquired by the BC Government and became part of BC Ferries. In 1971 the ferry was radically modified, being lengthened & widened in the process becoming a catamaran. Her auto capacity was more than doubled and she became 'ro-ro' for all types of vehicles. In 1974 her name was changed to North Island Princess (the NIP) at the request of P&O/ Princess Cruises who were at the time operating in BC waters a somewhat larger vessel with the same name.
Last Edit: Feb 23, 2013 17:26:27 GMT -8 by WettCoast
The Island Princess, as originally constructed, was perhaps unique among all modern era car ferries in BC in that she was not able to load any truck traffic at one end and have it drive off the other. Her superstructure, as the photo posted by WCK above shows, only allowed clearance for cars. I'd be interested to know why Coast Ferries designed her that way, since she was originally placed in Gulf Islands service with multiple calls on each crossing, but the principals in that operation are probably gone now, so we'll never know. I guess they planned her as a true 'car' ferry, as her 37' beam and limited area in front of the house wouldn't have allowed for more than two, or perhaps three trucks.
The original Princess series was one of the most pleasing ship designs of its time. You can see some Spaulding similarities in some parts, some similarities to the Queen of the North and other ships of the time. Just prior to that I also like the Oceanic that was longer and more Atlantic Crossing type design. The Viking cruise ships were also well designed. With the push for outside cabins now in the industry many of the ships look like apartment blocks or offices glued onto a hull. The economics work, the demand for outside cabins and balconies for premium cabins satisfied, but you need dirty and dark sunglasses to keep your retina's from getting damaged .
Queen of Prince Rupert at Bear Cove - Thankyou for your years of service
Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 17, 2013 12:17:43 GMT -8
Something to add to the long-term rumour mill for the N.I.P.
Jeff West, BC Ferries’ regional director, said the ferry corporation has not made any plans for the replacement of the North Island Princess yet. He assured FAC that despite rumours that the North Island Princess has been “promised” to Port Hardy once it has been replaced, no firm plans are in place and the community would be given the opportunity to voice their suggestions on the ferry’s replacement at public consultations before any plans are made.
I'm kind of confused as to why they want the NIP. Up until this article came up I thought retiring her along with the Burnaby and Nanaimo was high on BC Ferries' priority list. She's the oldest vessel in the fleet and even if you do count her 1971 rebuild, she's still the among the oldest vessels in the fleet. Seems like a one step forward, two steps backward situation to me. especially since they upgraded the QQII not long ago.
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this photo goes all the way back to my first job on the original B watch on QPR in June 1966 when this little ferry used to dock near by our Kelsey Bay dock, and when I moved on to my next work with the conversion project of this little vessel which was catamrized into what became the North Island Princess, that was my teaching year up in Duncan, which again was a short lived project, before I moved over to the municipal planning work, which became the bulk of my career work! mrdot. :)I hope this qualifies as an historic photograph
I guess that Peter Favelle was right in writing that cargo was slung on and off the Island Princess in his definitive book "The Qeens of British Columbia", though only for large vehicles other than those not able to drive on or off this first Ro/Ro vessel on our coast apparently.
What does it mean saying the NIP has been 'promised' to Port Hardy? I don't understand.
Maybe it means there is a long term plan in the works to replace the Nimpkish with the North Island Princess but then they would need a fourth new vessel for Texada Island, unless they plan to do a triangle service once a replacement for the Burnaby is built.
This past Sunday, the 21st, I was going to wake up in the early hours of the Morning to Photograph the NIP at Saltery Bay while she performed Dock Fittings. Unfortunately, my judgement of when she would arrive at Saltery Bay was off by an hour so when I woke up, she was already there. Since I knew she would be gone if I tried to rush out there, I instead decided to photograph her as she made her way back to Texada. Here's what I managed to get.
See the 2nd-to-last paragraph in that linked post.
- the North Island Princess might be the vessel that was alluded to in that 2nd-to-last paragraph.
Okay, I get it now. I think what confused me was that the PR Peak article mentioned that the NIP was promised to Port Hardy, which made me think that it would replace the Nimpkish rather than the QQII. So really that Peak article should have said that it was promised to Port McNeill, not Port Hardy, since people there seem to want a bigger ferry. But it would seem strange for BCF to put an even older ferry on a route that already has a fairly old ferry on it. Perhaps when they replace the NIP, they can build 2 NIP-replacement type ships, and then the QQ II could just act as a refit-replacement ship for the Tachek on the route to Cortes Island or for the K-class ferries, so that Kahloke won't have to serve on the Cortes run.