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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 18, 2019 20:10:03 GMT -8
After Quinsam is replace on Vancouver Island - Descanso Bay by two Island Class in 2021. Would be good idea to shift the Quinsam down to Vesuvius Bay - Crofton to be permanent vessel on route? I personally think that would be go move BC Ferries part because she is slight faster than Howe Sound Queen and Quinitsa. From HERE
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 12, 2021 13:32:43 GMT -8
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Post by princessofvanfan on Oct 12, 2021 14:03:37 GMT -8
Wow...Quinsam is finally being redeployed on another route. Has she ever served on a different route than Nanaimo-Gabriola? I remember going on her when she was brand new 40 years ago...seemed so huge compared to Quinitsa.
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Post by Neil on Oct 12, 2021 17:18:28 GMT -8
Wow...Quinsam is finally being redeployed on another route. Has she ever served on a different route than Nanaimo-Gabriola? I remember going on her when she was brand new 40 years ago...seemed so huge compared to Quinitsa. I don't think she has ever been anywhere else. Of all the current BC Ferries vessels, only the Kwuna has been one route for longer.
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Post by Neil on Mar 11, 2022 18:50:26 GMT -8
Quinsam being launched in 1982, chances are she's not quite going to make her 40th anniversary of being based at Descanso Bay. With BC Ferries going for interchangeable vessels, it's a good bet none will ever approach her longevity on one route, let alone that of the Kwuna or the all time champion, Mill Bay. If BC Ferries gets the financing they need to adequately serve their communities, chances are she won't be based at Vesuvius for too many years before she's replaced by a pair of Island class boats.
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Post by alex912 on Mar 12, 2022 10:51:56 GMT -8
Quinsam is expected to begin service on route 6 on April 13
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Apr 7, 2022 7:57:47 GMT -8
Was great to get my second ride on the Quinsam just 8 days before her reassignment from this route. Did a quick turn on Monday to Gabriola and back and it ended up being pretty great. Still had to catch the Duke Point boat afterwards and that ended up being super close too M/V Quinsam - Departing Gabriola Island by Jay Cassady, on Flickr
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 17, 2022 17:06:06 GMT -8
Then they announced the Quinitsa is back after Thanksgiving Weekend while the Quinsam goes in for refit. Which solicited a round of sighs. She needs go into refit / maintenance every five years which I believe her last refit would have been in 2017. So they need to temporary replace with another vessel, I believe Quinitsa will be only vessel available at that time. Maybe BC Ferries will bring Mayne Queen on route 6 for Quinsam refit this year only. But I believe Quinsam will be on route 6 year round except for refit / maintenance periods.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 19, 2022 8:41:30 GMT -8
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Post by princessofvanfan on Aug 19, 2022 12:24:28 GMT -8
I'm trying to recall the year Quinsam replaced Quinitsa on the Gabriola run - I'm thinking 1982 (and Quinitsa replaced Klitsa on the same route in 1977, if I remember correctly).
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 19, 2022 12:25:50 GMT -8
I'm trying to recall the year Quinsam replaced Quinitsa on the Gabriola run - I'm thinking 1982 (and Quinitsa replaced Klitsa on the same route in 1977, if I remember correctly). Yes, those are the years when each ship went into service, and they each first served on the Gabriola Island route.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 7, 2022 21:25:31 GMT -8
Did BC Ferries take away Quinsam storm gates for route 6?
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Post by Ollie on Oct 24, 2022 19:16:16 GMT -8
The Quinsam is at Esquimalt
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Post by harrysbird on Dec 7, 2022 14:50:01 GMT -8
Quinsam is now at BC Ferries Deas Dock
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 15, 2022 12:30:36 GMT -8
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Post by alex912 on Dec 16, 2022 23:14:19 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Dec 17, 2022 15:04:33 GMT -8
I was just thinking that back in 1966, the route six vessel was the Vesuvius Queen, which had a given capacity of 36 AEQ, for that era of automobiles. 56 years later, with probably more than double the population, they have a 44 car ferry, temporarily. Not much improvement.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 17, 2022 17:57:43 GMT -8
I was just thinking that back in 1966, the route six vessel was the Vesuvius Queen, which had a given capacity of 36 AEQ, for that era of automobiles. 56 years later, with probably more than double the population, they have a 44 car ferry, temporarily. Not much improvement. Just to be fair, what was Quinsam's capacity listed as before BCFS 'revised' the auto capacities on all of their vessels?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 17, 2022 18:04:32 GMT -8
I was just thinking that back in 1966, the route six vessel was the Vesuvius Queen, which had a given capacity of 36 AEQ, for that era of automobiles. 56 years later, with probably more than double the population, they have a 44 car ferry, temporarily. Not much improvement. Just to be fair, what was Quinsam's capacity listed as before BCFS 'revised' the auto capacities on all of their vessels? I believe it was 70 vehicles.
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Post by Neil on Dec 17, 2022 22:57:56 GMT -8
I was just thinking that back in 1966, the route six vessel was the Vesuvius Queen, which had a given capacity of 36 AEQ, for that era of automobiles. 56 years later, with probably more than double the population, they have a 44 car ferry, temporarily. Not much improvement. Just to be fair, what was Quinsam's capacity listed as before BCFS 'revised' the auto capacities on all of their vessels? Yes, it was 70. But now, with so many people driving big honkin' F350s and the like, it's 63, and BC Ferries thinks it's okay to put a 44 car ferry in its place during refits. Which is a gross understatement of the island's needs. As an aside, not particularly relevant to the topic... it surprises me how so many people have decided that they want the biggest vehicles they can buy, cost of gas be damned.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 18, 2022 6:52:24 GMT -8
Yes, it was 70. But now, with so many people driving big honkin' F350s and the like, it's 63, and BC Ferries thinks it's okay to put a 44 car ferry in its place during refits. Which is a gross understatement of the island's needs. As an aside, not particularly relevant to the topic... it surprises me how so many people have decided that they want the biggest vehicles they can buy, cost of gas be damned. We have had this conversation before. Yes, lots of people drive big rigs and lots don't. Lots travel on the ferries nowadays as footies compared to sixty years ago. Then there is the average gaps between vehicles now versus what was practised in the past (ie. the 'stacking of the decks'). I would really like to see something other than peoples beliefs (i.e. real data) re average car sizes today versus sixty years ago.
The Vesuvius run is slated to get two Island class vessels in a couple of years time with a combined capacity of 90 AEQ. Will that be enough? I am thinking the answer is 'no'.
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Post by Neil on Dec 18, 2022 18:18:35 GMT -8
Yes, it was 70. But now, with so many people driving big honkin' F350s and the like, it's 63, and BC Ferries thinks it's okay to put a 44 car ferry in its place during refits. Which is a gross understatement of the island's needs. As an aside, not particularly relevant to the topic... it surprises me how so many people have decided that they want the biggest vehicles they can buy, cost of gas be damned. We have had this conversation before. Yes, lots of people drive big rigs and lots don't. Lots travel on the ferries nowadays as footies compared to sixty years ago. Then there is the average gaps between vehicles now versus what was practised in the past (ie. the 'stacking of the decks'). I would really like to see something other than peoples beliefs (i.e. real data) re average car sizes today versus sixty years ago.
The Vesuvius run is slated to get two Island class vessels in a couple of years time with a combined capacity of 90 AEQ. Will that be enough? I am thinking the answer is 'no'.
Fair point about data as opposed to opinions. Three things I'd mention; one, that BC Ferries has revised all their vessel capacities downward to reflect larger vehicle sizes, although I would guess that part of that revision is to be on the safe side regarding reservations, since they don't ask you the specific size of your vehicle. Second point, a number of auto manufacturers have dropped smaller models, particularly sedans, due to decreasing sales. Yes, there are those teeny smart cars, but they're few and far between. Thirdly, many individual models have grown over the years... even a Mini Cooper isn't so mini anymore. Not to split hairs, but two Island class boats come in at 94 AEQ, and BC Ferries is probably being a tad conservative, so you might say 100. Those vessels have a service speed of about twelve knots, if BC Ferries chose to use it, so with smaller loads, two boats should be able to give departures every half hour, as opposed to the slower Quinsam or Quinitsa.... an effective capacity increase in itself.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 10, 2023 22:07:19 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 3, 2023 18:46:39 GMT -8
Quinsam arriving at Crofton on the 1:45 pm sailing from Vesuvius Bay. I am posting this photo because we don’t have many pictures of her on her new route or without storm gates. Quinsam by Blue Bus Fan, on Flickr
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