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Post by jwjsamster on Jul 3, 2021 3:48:32 GMT -8
The ' Chilliwack and the ' Cumberland both came online '91-'92, and I think the ' Chilliwack's first assignment was route 5... somehow I doubt both her and the ' Cumberland would have been on route 5 at the same time, but I guess it's possible. Chilliwack did start on route 5 in early 1991, but it was moved over to route 7 in 1992 to replace Capilano. I believe Cumberland would have directly replaced Chilliwack, but it's theoretically possible that the latter would have been kept around while the former was in its break-in period, as a new vessel. This is me getting into pure speculation at this point, but one possibility is that if both Cumberland and Chilliwack were on route 5, BCF could've used the opportunity to send Bowen and/or Mayne Queen into refit; however, from everything I've read, it seems the priority at that time would've been getting the troubled Capilano off of route 7 as quickly as possible, limiting the time both Cumberland and Chilliwack would be together. Why was the capilano considered troubled and why was it so much more suited for the Bowen run?
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Post by Neil on Jul 3, 2021 8:00:47 GMT -8
Chilliwack did start on route 5 in early 1991, but it was moved over to route 7 in 1992 to replace Capilano. I believe Cumberland would have directly replaced Chilliwack, but it's theoretically possible that the latter would have been kept around while the former was in its break-in period, as a new vessel. This is me getting into pure speculation at this point, but one possibility is that if both Cumberland and Chilliwack were on route 5, BCF could've used the opportunity to send Bowen and/or Mayne Queen into refit; however, from everything I've read, it seems the priority at that time would've been getting the troubled Capilano off of route 7 as quickly as possible, limiting the time both Cumberland and Chilliwack would be together. Why was the capilano considered troubled and why was it so much more suited for the Bowen run? I've never bought the oft repeated (on here, anyway) notion that the ' Capilano was moved to Bowen because it was somehow having trouble on route seven. I think it was moved because Bowen badly needed a bigger vessel.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 3, 2021 11:09:22 GMT -8
What others routes has she done in between late 1980’s and 1997?
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Post by jwjsamster on Jul 3, 2021 12:33:52 GMT -8
Why was the capilano considered troubled and why was it so much more suited for the Bowen run? I've never bought the oft repeated (on here, anyway) notion that the ' Capilano was moved to Bowen because it was somehow having trouble on route seven. I think it was moved because Bowen badly needed a bigger vessel. I lived on Bowen when I was young and my parents told me that they had the skeena queen for a bit? (I don't know if that's true I'm basing it off of my mum's description). But then they swapped to the Queen of Capilano because Boweners demanded a ferry with a proper café?
Again this is very much second hand info...
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 3, 2021 12:59:08 GMT -8
I lived on Bowen when I was young and my parents told me that they had the skeena queen for a bit? (I don't know if that's true I'm basing it off of my mum's description). But then they swapped to the Queen of Capilano because Boweners demanded a ferry with a proper café? Again this is very much second hand info... I would be surprised if Skeena Queen was at Bowen unless it was a temporary replacement for Queen of Capilano for some reason. Skeena Queen joined the fleet in 1997, and there are photos on this thread (see link) that show it on Route 4 in August of 1997. I, myself, took photos of the new boat at Swartz Bay in December of 1997. ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8528/skeena-queen-photos-discussion?page=3
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Post by Neil on Jul 3, 2021 16:35:56 GMT -8
I lived on Bowen when I was young and my parents told me that they had the skeena queen for a bit? (I don't know if that's true I'm basing it off of my mum's description). But then they swapped to the Queen of Capilano because Boweners demanded a ferry with a proper café? Again this is very much second hand info... I would be surprised if Skeena Queen was at Bowen unless it was a temporary replacement for Queen of Capilano for some reason. Skeena Queen joined the fleet in 1997, and there are photos on this thread (see link) that show it on Route 4 in August of 1997. I, myself, took photos of the new boat at Swartz Bay in December of 1997. ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8528/skeena-queen-photos-discussion?page=3We're definitely getting off the thread topic here, but... Bowen never had a ferry with food service before the ' Capilano, so it's not something islanders would have gotten used to. Bowen Queen's coffee bar was never used. Also, I can't imagine them wanting an 85 car ferry over a 100 car one. I think 'Kahloke' is right... if the Skeena was ever there, it was a short lived anomaly. Actually... Bainbridge had a cafeteria, but it probably wasn't used on the Bowen run, and that was prior to about 1963.
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Post by Victoriaclass on Jul 4, 2021 20:28:19 GMT -8
I would be surprised if Skeena Queen was at Bowen unless it was a temporary replacement for Queen of Capilano for some reason. Skeena Queen joined the fleet in 1997, and there are photos on this thread (see link) that show it on Route 4 in August of 1997. I, myself, took photos of the new boat at Swartz Bay in December of 1997. ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8528/skeena-queen-photos-discussion?page=3We're definitely getting off the thread topic here, but... Bowen never had a ferry with food service before the ' Capilano, so it's not something islanders would have gotten used to. Bowen Queen's coffee bar was never used. Also, I can't imagine them wanting an 85 car ferry over a 100 car one. I think 'Kahloke' is right... if the Skeena was ever there, it was a short lived anomaly. Actually... Bainbridge had a cafeteria, but it probably wasn't used on the Bowen run, and that was prior to about 1963. Skeena Queen was on route 8 for a 5 day trial before moving to route 4 I believe
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Aug 4, 2021 12:08:09 GMT -8
Mayne Queen seems in way better condition compared to the Bowen Queen because she isn’t badly in need on paint job. Also main passenger lounge is opened compared to the Bowen Queen while both saddle are opened for seating only.
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Post by Neil on Aug 4, 2021 21:45:50 GMT -8
Mayne Queen seems in way better condition compared to the Bowen Queen because she isn’t badly in need on paint job. Also main passenger lounge is opened compared to the Bowen Queen while both saddle are opened for seating only. Huh? There was a photo of the Mayne posted on the Nautical History facebook page a couple of weeks ago, and she certainly had more than her share of rust on the car deck bulwarks... unless she's been touched up since.
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 5, 2021 10:31:39 GMT -8
Mayne Queen seems in way better condition compared to the Bowen Queen because she isn’t badly in need on paint job. Also main passenger lounge is opened compared to the Bowen Queen while both saddle are opened for seating only. The lounges have since been reopened on the Bowen Queen, which were timed with entering stage 3 of the BC restart plan. I’m predicted Bowen Queen’s current stint on Route 6 to be her last deployment until retirement. I believe Quinitsa is scheduled to return to Route 6 after Thanksgiving long weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 21:55:44 GMT -8
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Post by Mike on Oct 26, 2021 21:19:57 GMT -8
Mayne Queen in the Fraser River this morning, headed for Swartz Bay. Just off of the bow of the MQ, the Howe Sound Queen can be seen peeking through the trees. M/V Mayne Queen - Fraser River by Michael, on Flickr
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Post by Neil on Oct 27, 2021 8:31:26 GMT -8
Mayne Queen in the Fraser River this morning, headed for Swartz Bay. Just off of the bow of the MQ, the Howe Sound Queen can be seen peeking through the trees. M/V Mayne Queen - Fraser River by Michael, on Flickr Looks like she's had a coat of paint, which she was badly in need of...
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Post by firewolf95 on Nov 30, 2021 22:35:05 GMT -8
October 3rd of 2021. Here she is departing from Lyall Harbour. Shot taken from the deck of our cabin on Saturna Island with my girlfriend's iPhone 11. The other photo is of me above the crest sipping a Pepsi Throwback, wearing an Expo hat. Attachments:
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Post by firewolf95 on Dec 14, 2021 22:52:43 GMT -8
September 30th, 2021. Shots taken with my Galaxy S7, first one taken out the bay window of my girlfriend's cabin living room. Second shot taken onboard. Yes, I do <3 ferries! Attachments:
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Post by Ollie on Dec 23, 2021 11:21:13 GMT -8
What will happen to the Mayne Queen when the new Salish Heron comes?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 23, 2021 12:49:39 GMT -8
What will happen to the Mayne Queen when the new Salish Heron comes? Most likely sold for scrap.
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Post by firewolf95 on Jan 5, 2022 15:58:36 GMT -8
What will happen to the Mayne Queen when the new Salish Heron comes? Most likely sold for scrap. A sad but very likely true prediction. I really wish I was stupid-rich sometimes, just so I could prevent things like this from happening. Not sure what I'd do with her, but I'd absolutely keep her working. I mean, her being scrapped is ultimately pretty much inevitable but I feel like she (and her sisters) still have life left. Probably a bad example, but look at the Steel Electrics with their ~80 year service life.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Jan 5, 2022 22:29:40 GMT -8
Probably a bad example, but look at the Steel Electrics with their ~80 year service life. The Steel Electrics were held together by duct tape and hope in their final years. I know several folks on here feel that they should have been retired in the 1980s, and in hindsight that probably would not have been a bad idea. The Mayne has probably been maintained better than the Steel Electrics were, but the lifespan of any ship is finite and its arguably better to not drag out the goodbye. The Steel Electrics, I would argue, should be regarded as a cautionary tale.
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Post by cbachmeier on Jan 18, 2022 10:54:27 GMT -8
I am curious, while we do not yet know the exact retirement date of the MV Mayne Queen is anyone planning to be there for her last day of service. I am hoping to be there, I know with some previous vessel retirements there has been a group of people in attendance?
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Post by paulvanb on Jan 18, 2022 17:28:17 GMT -8
Most likely sold for scrap. A sad but very likely true prediction. I really wish I was stupid-rich sometimes, just so I could prevent things like this from happening. Not sure what I'd do with her, but I'd absolutely keep her working. I mean, her being scrapped is ultimately pretty much inevitable but I feel like she (and her sisters) still have life left. Probably a bad example, but look at the Steel Electrics with their ~80 year service life. There are times when her, and her sister ship, Bowen Queen would be a good #2 ship on the Bowen Island run. Just saying.
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Post by Neil on Jan 18, 2022 17:57:15 GMT -8
A sad but very likely true prediction. I really wish I was stupid-rich sometimes, just so I could prevent things like this from happening. Not sure what I'd do with her, but I'd absolutely keep her working. I mean, her being scrapped is ultimately pretty much inevitable but I feel like she (and her sisters) still have life left. Probably a bad example, but look at the Steel Electrics with their ~80 year service life. There are times when her, and her sister ship, Bowen Queen would be a good #2 ship on the Bowen Island run. Just saying. Given that there is no place to berth a second ship on the Bowen route, I'm not sure there's any point in "just saying".
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Post by paulvanb on Jan 18, 2022 18:28:05 GMT -8
There are times when her, and her sister ship, Bowen Queen would be a good #2 ship on the Bowen Island run. Just saying. Given that there is no place to berth a second ship on the Bowen route, I'm not sure there's any point in "just saying". They could make their own slip at Sewell's just like the Queen of Oak Bay tried to.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 18, 2022 21:41:22 GMT -8
I am curious, while we do not yet know the exact retirement date of the MV Mayne Queen is anyone planning to be there for her last day of service. I am hoping to be there, I know with some previous vessel retirements there has been a group of people in attendance? I wonder if Mayne Queen retirement date could be in May when Salish Raven for route 5 service is available with Salish Heron working on route 9a.
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Post by randomferryguy on Jan 19, 2022 21:12:19 GMT -8
She will be around for at least another year. PQ and BQ are being retired this spring and the MQ will be the new BQ, the new relief vessel around the fleet.
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