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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 24, 2021 15:46:03 GMT -8
New insight in regards to the Cumbies assignment when the Salish Class #4 arrives Bear in mind nothing is on paper yet but some possible ideas circulating around Swartz bay currently includes having the Queen of Cumberland as a relief vessel to take over the Bowen Queen and then have a Salish Class based from both Swartz bay and Tsawassen and they go back and forth with stops at the regular gulf islands and then to finally to Swartz bay/Tsawassen. The other possibilitie is less likely but is also a seemingly prudent idea is that possibly bringing the Malaspina Sky to Swartz Bay and the Cumberland to Saltery Bay because the idea is that up there the Cumberland is going between two ports rather than multiple different islands and the Platform decks will likely be less of a issue because of that and in turn the Malaspina Sky will most likely be of simaler capacity and will not be of issue because of the Gallery Decks, that being said though the main issue with this possible idea is that the Malaspina Sky is a one off ship and I am not sure if she can fit all of the ports on route 5/5A without any dock modifications and it would require crew familiarization because of the Different control systems engines and safety/evacuation equipment, however BCFS has been considering having the Malaspina Sky at Swartz bay for quite a few years now. However as I have said this is NOT official on paper as is the Cumberland swapping with the Mayne Queen and allowing her retirement but the current understanding is that the public realesed version is most likely what is going to happen but I have heard of the above possible ideas but it is only going to be known when Salish Class #4 is here. đ Thanks Jimmy Carlos 1. Wouldnât that plan significantly reduce capacity to the Southern Gulf Island from because of the lack of another vessel on route 5A? I doubt that BC Ferries would due this because there would be protest on service reduction and lack of capacity. 2. I donât see the Malispina Sky and Queen of Cumberland switching routes permanently which seems unnecessary. I donât think the platform decks are problem on route 5 or 5A because I donât see service notices about or schedule being delay on route 5 with platforms being used. 3. Queen of Cumberland directly replacing the Mayne Queen when the new Salish is best plan because it doesnât needlessly move vessels round. I think this plan will keep Southern Gulf Island residents happy because they no loss of capacity but an increase. Wouldnât British Columbia Government and BC Ferries need to agree with modifications of plan with Salish Class.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 18:56:28 GMT -8
Point a the platform decks are painfully slow and I completely reduce overheight vehicle capacity and are unrealable whereas the Malaspina Sky doesn't and currently has A simaler top vehicle capacity to the Cumbies top vehicle capacity including platform decks which is Malaspina Sky 124 Vehicles the Queen of Cumberland as of 2021 has a capacity of 127 Vehicles including platform decks passenger and passenger and crew capacity would be increased with the Malaspina Sky total Passenger and Crew capacity of the Malaspina Sky is 600 PAX Cumbies top passenger capacity is 450 so I don't believe you can claim otherwise.
Point 2 having two Salish Class Ferries is not a issue as it will be a combination of route 1/5/5A and will be from a corporate standpoint allows for huge cost savings in Fuel And Scheduling as the current schedule for The route 5/5A is extremely complicated and difficult to plan and understand plus the Queen of Cumberland is a very suitable relief vessel to replace the Bowem Queen from a Capacity and Size/route restrictions/environmental/size.
Point 3 the most likely what is the plan as having the Cumberland and Salish Class #4 is the most viable and simplest idea for impending Retirement of the Mayne Queen.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 24, 2021 21:01:38 GMT -8
Point a the platform decks are painfully slow and I completely reduce overheight vehicle capacity and are unrealable whereas the Malaspina Sky doesn't and currently has A simaler top vehicle capacity to the Cumbies top vehicle capacity including platform decks which is Malaspina Sky 124 Vehicles the Queen of Cumberland as of 2021 has a capacity of 127 Vehicles including platform decks passenger and passenger and crew capacity would be increased with the Malaspina Sky total Passenger and Crew capacity of the Malaspina Sky is 600 PAX Cumbies top passenger capacity is 450 so I don't believe you can claim otherwise. Point 2 having two Salish Class Ferries is not a issue as it will be a combination of route 1/5/5A and will be from a corporate standpoint allows for huge cost savings in Fuel And Scheduling as the current schedule for The route 5/5A is extremely complicated and difficult to plan and understand plus the Queen of Cumberland is a very suitable relief vessel to replace the Bowem Queen from a Capacity and Size/route restrictions/environmental/size. Point 3 the most likely what is the plan as having the Cumberland and Salish Class #4 is the most viable and simplest idea for impending Retirement of the Mayne Queen. 1. Platforms decks havenât been a problem before on Southern Gulf Islands since Queen of Cumberland has been on route. I feel like platforms decks would be more of an issue on Earls Cove to Salty Bay route due BC Ferries having to remove the saddle lounges on Powell River Queen. Mayne Queen nor Bowen Queen havenât had their saddle lounges removed because the Southern Gulf Island routes donât seem to justify the remove of saddle lounge. So, I donât see your point for 1. 2. But combing have Tsawwassen to Southern Gulf Island to Swartz Bay would be even more confusing. But BC Ferries is still missing one boat on route 5a and route 9a in which reduce capacity significantly. I donât think the Provincial Government and BC Ferries Commissioner would approve that plan because it significantly reduce capacity for the Southern Gulf Island. BC Ferries could easily clean up route 5/5a schedule to be more clearly; which, I think rework on schedule will be best option Southern Gulf Island because it win for crew and passengers. 3. Queen of Cumberland can still replace the Quinsam, Queen of Capilano, Skeena Queen, and Malaspina Sky because a Salish Class. I donât see a problem with Queen of Cumberland being on route 5 and still doing the Bowen Queen role. 4. I doubt that Provincial Government will approve the elimination of a vessel on route 5a due loss of capacity.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 24, 2021 16:52:57 GMT -8
How often does Queen of Cumberland take inbound Spirits and Coastal routing to Swartz Bay? I am asking because I was on her today and took that routing.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 5, 2021 7:55:46 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland arriving at Swartz Bay on a dreary September morning.
17 September 2021
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Post by paulvanb on Oct 5, 2021 20:10:47 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland arriving at Swartz Bay on a dreary September morning.
17 September 2021
Great shot on a very miserable day. (in more ways than one) Think she will end up with her sister on the Bowen Island route?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 20, 2021 12:44:18 GMT -8
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Post by articulated on Oct 20, 2021 17:29:20 GMT -8
So... what is replacing Queen of Cumberland on route 5? Gonna assume it is Salish Raven, given the lack of service notice (which they tend not to issue when there's an upgrade in capacity/quality without negative effects), but Bowen Queen could conceivably be an option.
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 20, 2021 20:16:19 GMT -8
So... what is replacing Queen of Cumberland on route 5? Gonna assume it is Salish Raven, given the lack of service notice (which they tend not to issue when there's an upgrade in capacity/quality without negative effects), but Bowen Queen could conceivably be an option. The Salish Eagle will sub in for the Cumberland on Route 5. The Bowen Queen is pretty well finished her career now unless something unforseen comes up between now and when the rest of the Island Class come online
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Post by Ollie on Mar 11, 2022 9:22:05 GMT -8
Will Queen of Cumberland replace Mayne Queen?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 11, 2022 9:38:34 GMT -8
Will Queen of Cumberland replace Mayne Queen? Yes she will.
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Post by Ollie on Apr 3, 2022 15:17:57 GMT -8
Why is Queen of Cumberland going to Tsawwassen?
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Post by articulated on Apr 3, 2022 15:29:47 GMT -8
Why is Queen of Cumberland going to Tsawwassen? See the following Service Notice:
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 18, 2022 11:48:50 GMT -8
Over on the Bowen Queen thread there has been some discussion re a relief ship for the Queen of Capilano when she's 'in the shop'. Consensus is that the Cumberland will be doing the relief. However, there has also been discussion about the suitability of the Cumberland's hoistable ramps on the Bowen Island route. I am thinking that it might well be a good move to convert the Cumberland so that it has fixed gallery decks as were added to the Capilano a few years ago.
What do others think about this?
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Post by Nickfro on Apr 18, 2022 11:58:18 GMT -8
I wonder if the conversion to fixed gallery decks on the Cumberland may negatively impact the ability for larger vehicles to turn around on the ferry when they have to load it for multiple ports of call.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 21, 2022 18:41:43 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on May 21, 2022 18:52:37 GMT -8
Thanks for that heads up, 'Blue Bus Fan'. This notice contradicts the assumption by our route six critic that the Salish class vessel will not be using the lower deck when in service on route 5 or 5A. I'd be curious to see what the extent of the ' Cumberland's voyage of discovery is .
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 21, 2022 19:17:16 GMT -8
Thanks for that heads up, 'Blue Bus Fan'. This notice contradicts the assumption by our route six critic that the Salish class vessel will not be using the lower deck when in service on route 5 or 5A. I'd be curious to see what the extent of the ' Cumberland's voyage of discovery is .I truly wouldnât understand Point of building a vessel with 144 vehicles and only using half of vehicles capacity except in crew shortage periods.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on May 22, 2022 6:33:28 GMT -8
Salish Heron is set to take her place, not the Raven.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 6, 2022 9:20:31 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is on to Horseshoe Bay and Snug Cove. This is rare occasion while Queen of Cumberland and Queen of Capilano have meet at Horseshoe Bay.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 6, 2022 10:50:26 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is on to Horseshoe Bay and Snug Cove. This is rare occasion while Queen of Cumberland and Queen of Capilano have meet at Horseshoe Bay. She is waiting out Snug Cove and waiting for Queen of Capilano to depart Snug Cove.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 6, 2022 19:37:34 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is on to Horseshoe Bay and Snug Cove. This is rare occasion while Queen of Cumberland and Queen of Capilano have meet at Horseshoe Bay. She is waiting out Snug Cove and waiting for Queen of Capilano to depart Snug Cove. She is now at Langdale.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 7, 2022 10:52:11 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is now at Saltery Bay.
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Post by FNS on Jun 7, 2022 11:54:20 GMT -8
This majesty is doing about the same thing the QUEEN OF NANAIMO has just completed. Venturing out to other areas and away from her usual routing.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 7, 2022 12:54:42 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is now at Saltery Bay. She has made her way to Earls Cove.
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