Doug
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Post by Doug on Feb 15, 2006 18:00:40 GMT -8
Wow...that is amazing. IF that is the Victoria, and is India being scrapped, it would be grounded...hence the bulbous bow is visible. But what they've done to the bow is truly amazing. I guess it should have been expected in the Caribbean.
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 15, 2006 18:03:33 GMT -8
Also, they even kept the Flagpole where the original bow was! Is that the bell I see dangling off of it? The radar is taken off of the masts too.
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Post by Scott on Feb 15, 2006 19:28:07 GMT -8
Sorry to disappoint you guys - but I don't believe that is the Queen of Victoria. I read the Times, Daily Mail and FT newspapers everyday and I haven't seen that picture. Also I get a copy on a daily bases of everything that is sold for scrap - as this is a world market - even the smallest vessels get recorded. Some of you have picked up the different bow - I also looked at the Sidney GA plans I have and the Hull lines just don't match. There are a lot of vessels called Victoria ect.... This needs more of an look into before passing the death notice on her.... I checked the London Times website and did a search of the scrapyard location and the article did come up (text only) for Saturday's newspaper. And unless the picture was edited ... and I have absolutely no reason to believe that.. it has to be the Queen of Victoria.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Feb 15, 2006 19:32:53 GMT -8
A fellow ferry enthusiast in London who has contacted me in the past via e-mail, sent me this photograph a couple days ago from Saturday's London Times newspaper. It would appear that this is the Queen of Victoria before scrapping in India. Just from the few words below the photo, I gather the story of the article/photo is the workers poor wages, and not the ferry. Just our "luck" that the Vic was in the background. So now we know... How interesting... While I wish that image was photoshopped, I don't believe it is. The aft windows on the Main vehicle deck appear to still be there. It is terribly tragic that a boat of her stature ends her life grossly modified as well as being in such poor condition....
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 15, 2006 19:41:46 GMT -8
Yeah it is sad. Is there something attached to back of her or is that the dockside or something?
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Post by Qsaanich on Feb 15, 2006 19:49:15 GMT -8
Ya
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Post by QSaanich on Feb 15, 2006 19:53:10 GMT -8
The ship looks like a B class now with a coho bow LOL but it really does
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Feb 15, 2006 20:02:36 GMT -8
That is very sad that the Queen of Victoria got scrapped, it was the flagship of the fleet.
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Post by Scott on Feb 15, 2006 21:58:08 GMT -8
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Post by ferryguy on Feb 15, 2006 22:21:48 GMT -8
Thats not the Vic. The upper car deck is pretty much missing, the economics would not have made sense to modify her. She was sold for 1.5 mil 5 years or so ago. That modification even in the 3rd world would make no sense. Good early April Fools though. Kudos to the editor chopped off the passenger deck onto another hull. Great effort and a nice try. Oh. why would they have left the aft car deck holes and fill up all the upper car deck? ferryguy
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Feb 15, 2006 22:34:37 GMT -8
Thats not the Vic. The upper car deck is pretty much missing, the economics would not have made sense to modify her. She was sold for 1.5 mil 5 years or so ago. That modification even in the 3rd world would make no sense. Good early April Fools though. Kudos to the editor chopped off the passenger deck onto another hull. Great effort and a nice try. Oh. why would they have left the aft car deck holes and fill up all the upper car deck? ferryguy She was sold to R&G for $550,000 CDN. Even though those modifications do seem hard to believe, there is multiple photo's of her at Alang that show they were done. I am sure Phil Spaulding did not design full size "V" Class ships for other companies other than BCFC... It has to be the Vic...
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Post by Balfour on Feb 15, 2006 22:49:13 GMT -8
Well I think our search for the Queen of Victoria has come to a rather sad ending...
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Post by Dane on Feb 15, 2006 23:38:12 GMT -8
I'm not sure what this "The upper car deck is gone" business is... it's clearly there, but sealed.
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Post by Scott on Feb 15, 2006 23:52:44 GMT -8
Just regarding the economics of modifying the Queen of Ocoa. Some information I have from a source who was involved in the company who bought the Vesuvius Queen and Queen of Victoria to the Caribbean, leads me to believe that a lot of things were done by the company that didn't make economic sense and both ferries were major money losers.
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Post by Mark on Feb 16, 2006 0:05:42 GMT -8
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Post by hergfest on Feb 16, 2006 0:20:20 GMT -8
These were posted on the yahoo board, these can't be faked pics:
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Post by hergfest on Feb 16, 2006 0:21:39 GMT -8
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Post by QSaanich on Feb 16, 2006 17:39:42 GMT -8
Thats the vic alright it is a sad ending to a great ship
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Post by Mike C on Feb 16, 2006 19:00:24 GMT -8
She would have done good on Route 1, or run with the Esquimalt and New West on Route 30, and the Alberni would be a spare. It's sad to see another BCF original be sacked...
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Post by Mike C on Feb 16, 2006 20:35:06 GMT -8
That's fine if you've got your own opinion.
And when I say put it on those routes mentioned above, I mean the condition that she was in before BC Ferries sold it.
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Post by Dane on Feb 16, 2006 20:53:48 GMT -8
That's fine if you've got your own opinion. And when I say put it on those routes mentioned above, I mean the condition that she was in before BC Ferries sold it. Theres a reason she was removed from service. There's also a reason all the Vs were supposed to be gone by 2000. The FastCat failure was there only saving grace. You're right it's just an opinion but it's based on substantive fact. These ships cost too much to run...
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Post by QoA on Feb 17, 2006 19:26:52 GMT -8
Cascade,
You noted that this ship doesn't match the lines and GA of the Sidney, but they are two distinctly different vessels, from the time of construction. The original design of the Sid/Tswa. was quite altered for the construction of the next seven ships.
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Post by Fenklebaum on Feb 17, 2006 22:28:45 GMT -8
Dane: I thought I should advise you to tone down your anger a notch, in the interest of public safety; when I read your rebuttal to mainlander101's comments, I laughed so hard that scalding hot tea spurted from not one, but both nostrils.
Just FYI
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Doug
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Post by Doug on Feb 18, 2006 16:03:26 GMT -8
Only thing is is it is true, Fenklebaum.
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Post by Dane on Feb 18, 2006 18:03:41 GMT -8
LOL thats not anger... it's frustration
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