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Post by EGfleet on Apr 15, 2010 6:47:45 GMT -8
Some of my favorite footage...sailing into Victoria Harbour in the late 1940's with the sparkly Chinook at the dock. 16MM footage.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 21, 2010 10:03:45 GMT -8
I can put a more precise date on it--the can said 1950.
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 13, 2010 13:05:25 GMT -8
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Post by mrdot on Nov 13, 2010 16:24:05 GMT -8
:)yes this pic. evokes a ton of old memories for me, and I am going to have to dig out a drawing that I did of her bow on when she was Sechelt Queen, we passed daily when I worked the Sidney and she was the Long Harbour boat in the late 1960's. mrdot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2010 19:46:38 GMT -8
Great photo! Thanks for sharing. It makes me wish I could have rode her at least once and had a chance to roam her decks! I was so close to her so many times just not able to get on board.
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 13, 2010 20:01:01 GMT -8
Yeah, the Sechelt Queen, when she was still the Chinook, with her pointy bow, was definitely the best-looking ship to ever sail the waters of BC.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 13, 2010 20:19:23 GMT -8
Yeah, the Sechelt Queen, when she was still the Chinook, with her pointy bow, was definitely the best-looking ship to ever sail the waters of BC. Princess Victoria? Queen of the North? Princess Kathleen?
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 13, 2010 20:28:25 GMT -8
Yeah, the Sechelt Queen, when she was still the Chinook, with her pointy bow, was definitely the best-looking ship to ever sail the waters of BC. Princess Victoria? Queen of the North? Princess Kathleen? ...Other than the QotN and the Suzie Q, as I mentioned yesterday in what I just realized must've been a different thread. I have no recollection of what the Princess Victoria and the Princess Kathy look like, so right now, I can't make a statement regarding those two.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 13, 2010 20:55:06 GMT -8
ok, I have just to throw my comment in here, after having glowed :)at the pic. posted of the ex Chinook, yes she was a very advanced design for 1949 and was a very attractive ship as built, but hardly the most beautiful to sail our waters! the prewar pair of Princess Margurete & Kathleen had magnificent lines, and there are many more subjects that could be selected, perhaps this could be a poll question put to all of our membership? the Queen of the North had a very attractive profile, the grand trunk, later CNR packet liners Prince George & Rupert had very nice lines, there are so many other choices but others can comment. That is a very subjective question, but the Chinook as built was, while a very advanced profile for that time was in no way the most beautiful to grace the port of Victoria as I remember. mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 13, 2010 21:56:21 GMT -8
Princess Victoria? Queen of the North? Princess Kathleen? ...Other than the QotN and the Suzie Q, as I mentioned yesterday in what I just realized must've been a different thread. I have no recollection of what the Princess Victoria and the Princess Kathy look like, so right now, I can't make a statement regarding those two. I'll take you to task for ignorant hyperbole in your assertion where you said "definitely", "best looking" and "to ever". Pretty definitive statements to make for a subject where you haven't done your homework. And a small point in any other time (but seeing as you've ruffled my feathers, I'll continue), I don't recall ever seeing the 'Kathleen referred to as "Princess Kathy". You've admitted that you lack knowledge of her appearance, so I suggest that you also show some respect to that part of history and avoid made-up nicknames until you have at least spent some time studying that era.
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Post by EGfleet on Nov 14, 2010 9:15:51 GMT -8
ok, I have just to throw my comment in here, after having glowed :)at the pic. posted of the ex Chinook, yes she was a very advanced design for 1949 and was a very attractive ship as built, but hardly the most beautiful to sail our waters! the prewar pair of Princess Margurete & Kathleen had magnificent lines, and there are many more subjects that could be selected, perhaps this could be a poll question put to all of our membership? the Queen of the North had a very attractive profile, the grand trunk, later CNR packet liners Prince George & Rupert had very nice lines, there are so many other choices but others can comment. That is a very subjective question, but the Chinook as built was, while a very advanced profile for that time was in no way the most beautiful to grace the port of Victoria as I remember. mrdot. As the Chinook's most ardent fan, I have to agree. BC had some of the most elegant steamers to sail her waters, including the second Princess Marguerite and Patricia. That being said, the Chinook was a lovely vessel...before Captain Peabody cut her bow off, giving her that perpetual stubbed toe look. The lengthening of her stack by B.C. Ferries didn't help matters much either. As designed though, she had the post-WWII W.F. Gibbs look all over her, and you can see elements in her looks that ended up on his later ships, including the S.S. United States. She was certainly one of the prettiest vessels to sail Puget Sound and was a vast improvement over the somewhat clunky looking Iroquois. Personally I loved her interiors--garish perhaps by today's standards, but man, what a floating display of post WWII decor! After the grim years of the war, there was a real trend toward bright colors and somewhat odd color combos. A trip on the Chinook in 1947 would have been a real eye-popping experience!
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Post by mrdot on Nov 14, 2010 10:44:12 GMT -8
:)thank you my frend for agreeing with me on this matter, and yes, the Chinook, as built, was a magnigicent queen of the inland seas. She was so advanced in design for 1949, when you consider CP was building Margurete,Patrica, and Nanaimo only a year later, and while more handsome vessels, so behind the times. and yet they had built the Motor Princess way back in 1923! thanks for posting those neet pics. and I shall get my brother to post my # 1 choice. mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 14, 2010 14:02:34 GMT -8
Thank you for all those interior shots! I'd love to own one of those Black Ball towels/blankets that are on the bed in the last shot there.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 14, 2010 21:16:11 GMT -8
:)sometimes my dates are a little out and in reviewing this Chinook folio I realize it was 1947, fully a year before CPR took delivery of their post war additions of Margurete & Patrica, so it even increases the gulf of how behind they were in design concept, however they were lovely ships. Looking at the stateroom shots, of the new Chinook, brings me to mind of the one time I worked Sechelt Queen, and on watchkeeping rounds I looked at the skeletal remains of this accomodation as this was dead space at the upward corners of the car deck spaces in later years, her design was not convenient to later year changes, much as the upper deck dead spaces I viewed on Carrier Princess after she was fully employed as a truck/freight ferry, years later. mrdot.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 15, 2010 9:44:16 GMT -8
:)you know when you look at a weel house of that generation, even the chnook, looked archaic by todays navigational standards. She was light years advanced over the competion in 1947, but they all look prity spartin in today's context.mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2010 16:05:30 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2010 21:31:36 GMT -8
from a 2006 archived post, done by forum member Retro: - this could have been posted to a number of places, so I chose this thread. ;D ======================= From a 1960 Black Ball Line brochure and map:(Us younger folk have never had to know this interesting way of listing telephone numbers )
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2010 21:39:29 GMT -8
from a forum archived post done in 2006 by member Retro. - this is from the Beautiful BC magazine. ============= I thought that I had read about the Sechelt Queen sailing the Gulf Islands, and now I have confirmation from 2 of these magazines. 1971 Issue:1975 Issue (Shown arriving at Long Harbour terminal):
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 3, 2010 21:25:37 GMT -8
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Post by metrotownqueen on Dec 4, 2010 21:17:34 GMT -8
I remember seeing the glass plate map still in place during the Ministry of Highways era on the Comox - Powell River run.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 6, 2010 20:19:53 GMT -8
The Chinook shows up at 1:17 of this video.
.....it's probably be posted on the forum before, but here it is again.
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Post by Neil on Apr 7, 2011 22:56:10 GMT -8
Flugel sez: Us younger folk have never had to know this interesting way of listing telephone numbers ) It was actually quite common. In Vancouver, downtown was MUtual (68-), New Westminster was LAkeview (52-), Burnaby was CYpress (29-), or HEmlock (43-), etc. But back then after the naming was discontinued by BC Tel, Canucks tickets were $5.00 to $10.00 to get in and sit in a good seat, going to Vancouver from Coquitlam was a big deal. TV stations were 2 (CBC), 8 (CHAN (now Global TV (also known as BCTV), plus 6 (CHEK), and 12 (KVOS in Bellingham), once cablevision arrived we got 4 (KOMO TV, 5 (KING TV), and 7 (KIRO) from Seattle. Most delightful during the summer back then during the 1960's there was usually a brand new ferry each year to explore. To go from the Bus Depot (the Dunsmuir) in Vancouver to Nanaimo you took Pacific Stage Lines which had all kinds of equipment such as GM buses, Canuck 600, and MCI. Now to go there, it's easy peasy to just get aboard the Horseshoe Bay Blue Bus from downtown. Okay, I have to ask, since no one else has... thick old me just doesn't get the connection between old phone numbers and television stations and the Sechelt Queen.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 23, 2011 17:53:42 GMT -8
Photo from the Nanaimo museum: - MV Chinook II arriving at Departure Bay. - this is a crop. The whole photo is posted by me in the Departure Bay terminal photo thread.
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Post by WettCoast on May 2, 2011 21:58:37 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen backing out of Horseshoe Bay - 9 September 1972. I believe that she was serving as an extra on route 3 at that time. photo © JST - Kodachrome 72-12-14 - VueScan - hosted on the Wett Coast Flickr Site
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Post by Neil on May 2, 2011 22:25:32 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen backing out of Horseshoe Bay - 9 September 1972. I believe that she was serving as an extra on route 3 at that time. 'Old Schedule Guy' checking in... If the summer schedule was still in effect on September 9th of that year, and it might have been, given that it started in early May, the Sechelt Queen would have been doing four of the twenty round trips on route 2. Langdale Queen was still the number two vessel on route 3. She looks so nice and rust free in that shot.
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