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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 2, 2013 16:28:28 GMT -8
The end of the hull is near the "GALENA" name painted on the side, at the end of the white-stripe. - in this photo, you can see that each end's ramp is above the water, and you can see how long they are. The ramps on DEV Galena used to be more "Kwuna like" in appearance, earlier years. - here is a photo from page #126 of the Ships of Steel book. ("Ships of Steel", Harbour Publishing in 2000. by T.A. McLaren and Vickie Jensen) Interesting comparison of a change made sometime during the ship's 45 years of life.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 5, 2013 16:37:55 GMT -8
DEV Galena seen by me from the bridge-wing of the MV Shelter Bay - morning of September 10, 2013. Straight view Angled views to show what she looks like When the clouds were finally starting to break up over the west shore
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 7, 2013 17:32:13 GMT -8
3 on-boards shots of DEV Galena, from September 10, 2013. The view from the bridge - and now a photo of some detail on either side of the above photo. First, from port-side, the evacuation area: Second, from starboard, the plaque on that yellow box
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2013 20:05:29 GMT -8
Terminals on the Upper Arrow Lake ferry route. - seen by me on September 10, 2013. Galena Bay is on the east-side of the water, and is just a basic 2-lane lineup on the side of the road, with a porta-pottie and picnic table (and a truck runaway lane). - here we are arriving on the MV Shelter Bay There is usually 1 DCT Chambers chip-truck on every weekday sailing. They enjoy the free ride. -------------- On the west side of the water is Shelter Bay. - here's the final approach, where the ferry landing is well hidden from view The marine railway that they use to haul out the ferries for work I'm not sure what is sold at a "Consession" but it might be similar to what you can find at a "Concession."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 20:12:35 GMT -8
It seems like you had a great trip, Mike. I enjoy reading your daily reports. -Thanks for taking the time to write them.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 8, 2013 20:48:40 GMT -8
Shelter Bay is a neat terminal or ferry landing whatever you want to call it. I like how you can walk out to the point which is a good spot for photos. I hope to do this route again someday!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 12, 2013 17:26:21 GMT -8
MV Shelter Bay, on the Upper Arrow Lake route - morning of September 10, 2013. A small ferry that is similar to BCF's Kuper and Washington's Sanpoil View from beside the berth at Shelter Bay The bridge and wings, where I spent a round trip.
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Post by Neil on Oct 12, 2013 18:37:32 GMT -8
Mr Horn: in your post from four days ago, you show the ferry approaching the Galena ramp, and there is a metal ramp against the concrete. How is that metal ramp fixed to the concrete? Does the ferry gently bump into it, forcing it up the concrete a bit, and then get locked in by a crewman? Is this the only interior run that has such a docking apparatus?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 12, 2013 19:10:51 GMT -8
Mr Horn: in your post from four days ago, you show the ferry approaching the Galena ramp, and there is a metal ramp against the concrete. How is that metal ramp fixed to the concrete? Does the ferry gently bump into it, forcing it up the concrete a bit, and then get locked in by a crewman? Is this the only interior run that has such a docking apparatus? The shore structure has 2 posts, which the ship's ropes are fastened to, when in dock. (pardon my non-maritime terminology). As to what keeps the shore-structure itself in-place on the concrete ramp, it looks to just be the slope of the ramp that prevents it from being pushed up the hill. - there's likely more to it than that, re something holding the bottom of the structure in place onto the concrete below. All of the landings that I witnessed were very gentle. No movement noted in the shore structure. (ie. movement rare) The Needles-Fauquier run has a similar structure. Here is the structure, on the Fauquier side of Lower Arrow Lake: You can see the docking up-close in this video of DEV Galena arriving at Shelter Bay berth. - 5-minute mark of this video. A gentle landing.
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Post by Wolf on May 30, 2014 17:33:36 GMT -8
A few onboard photos of the Diesel Electric Vessel GALENA, from the morning of September 10, 2013. The essentials: - The bell says "MV" not "DEV". That's an interesting quirk to the whole DEV uniqueness of this ship. The bridge: I like this angle, especially because I experienced a round-trip up there. ------------ More DEV Galena photos to be posted, in the days/weeks ahead. - this thread will be a great legacy for this ship on this route. I remember years ago it used to be called "MV Galena" but not too long ago (maybe 12 years ago or so) they changed it to "DEV Galena". Some people have been wondering what makes it diesel electric, well i can tell you. While riding it, you can hear a distinctive loud humming sound, those arent the engines, those are the electric turbines. The engines generate electricity which power the turbines which drive the propellors. Its more efficient on fuel that way. The new ferry is direct drive from the engine to the propellors, so i dont know how "fuel efficient" this new ferry will be if its working harder than the DEV galena
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Post by Wolf on May 30, 2014 17:42:26 GMT -8
Mr Horn: in your post from four days ago, you show the ferry approaching the Galena ramp, and there is a metal ramp against the concrete. How is that metal ramp fixed to the concrete? Does the ferry gently bump into it, forcing it up the concrete a bit, and then get locked in by a crewman? Is this the only interior run that has such a docking apparatus? It just sits there on the concrete, when the water level goes down in the winter (thanks to the keenleyside dam) they hook the docking chains onto the ferry's ramp and pull it out into the water. In the summer, they simply set the ferry ramp after theyve unloaded, back up out into the lake abit and giver full steam into shore and ram it up higher on the concrete, the needles ferry does the exact same. Due to our constant lake level fluctuations these movable wedge ramps are the best choice
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 8, 2014 7:37:20 GMT -8
Boarding the DEV Galena @ Shelter Bay terminal south of Revelstoke on Hwy 23, Arrow Lakes - 6 June 2014. The Galena will soon be retired, replaced by the brand new 100% tax-payer-funded Columbia. This was my 'farewell' tour. © WCK-JST by Wett Coast, on Flickr
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 17, 2014 16:43:52 GMT -8
DEV Galena underway from Galena Bay for Shelter Bay across Upper Arrow Lake, Highway 23, between Revelstoke & Nakusp, BC - 6 June 2014. I love the interior of BC where I can take as many free ferry rides as I want, all paid for by the tax-payers of Beautiful BC ... © WCK-JST by Wett Coast, on Flickr
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 17, 2014 18:09:22 GMT -8
DEV Galena underway from Galena Bay for Shelter Bay across Upper Arrow Lake, Highway 23, between Revelstoke & Nakusp, BC - 6 June 2014. I love the interior of BC where I can take as many free ferry rides as I want, all paid for by the tax-payers of Beautiful BC ... Here's the same reply that I posted on a facebook page: And I think "Fully Funded" or "No Fee" is a better term than "Free." Those ferries aren't free, because we all pay for them. BC taxpayers as a whole (and our visitors who pay our sales tax) help to fund things like our health-care, our education, our roads, our community grants, and our inland ferries. There is a cost to anything that is "No Fee." Just ask the citizens of Norway about the taxes that they pay. I'm not complaining; I like the convenience of no-fee or low-fee items such as education and health-care and inland ferries. I don't mind paying for that stuff, through my taxes.
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Post by Neil on Jun 17, 2014 21:34:16 GMT -8
Has anyone taken any photos of the passenger lounges on these vessels... as well as the Needles? I realize we're probably just talking broom closets with chairs, but still, I'm curious.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 28, 2014 9:07:19 GMT -8
With the new Columbia ferry now in-service, I've modified this here thread to be for the now-historic 2 vessels that used to serve the Galena-Shelter Bay route.
- For MV Columbia photos & discussion, see the separate Columbia thread, in the same section of this forum.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 28, 2014 10:09:48 GMT -8
Regarding the future of these two vessels Galena and Shelter Bay... I am guessing they will be kept in operating condition at least for this summer just in case there are any serious 'issues' (to quote Deb) with the new boat. In the longer term I would think that the Galena is 'done', and will be scrapped.
As for the Shelter Bay most know that she was originally the Needles, being replaced on the Hwy 6 route in 1990 by the cable ferry that now has the name Needles. Does anyone know if the Shelter Bay is ever used to sub for the cable Needles when serious maintenance is required?* Both vessels have about the same car capacity and the Shelter Bay has better speed although I don't know if that makes any difference on such a short route. At any rate, I think the SB may have a limited role in the future as a refit or contingency vessel.
*There appears to be duplicate sets of concrete ramps on both sides of the Needles-Fauquier crossing, one with the cables embedded for the current cable ferry, and the other ramps without cables that will accommodate the Shelter Bay (aka old Needles).
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 28, 2014 10:25:03 GMT -8
As for the Shelter Bay most know that she was originally the Needles, being replaced on the Hwy 6 route in 1990 by the cable ferry that now has the name Needles. Does anyone know if the Shelter Bay is ever used to sub for the cable Needles when serious maintenance is required?* Both vessels have about the same car capacity and the Shelter Bay has better speed although I don't know if that makes any difference on such a short route. At any rate, I think the SB may have a limited role in the future as a refit or contingency vessel. Yes, MV Shelter Bay does occasionally fill in for the cable ferries further down the lake. I was told this, when I did some ferry-riding on the ships, last September. She was also used to help pull the newbuild Columbia hull off it's shipyard ramp.
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Post by Wolf on Jun 28, 2014 17:36:03 GMT -8
Regarding the future of these two vessels Galena and Shelter Bay... I am guessing they will be kept in operating condition at least for this summer just in case there are any serious 'issues' (to quote Deb) with the new boat. In the longer term I would think that the Galena is 'done', and will be scrapped. As for the Shelter Bay most know that she was originally the Needles, being replaced on the Hwy 6 route in 1990 by the cable ferry that now has the name Needles. Does anyone know if the Shelter Bay is ever used to sub for the cable Needles when serious maintenance is required?* Both vessels have about the same car capacity and the Shelter Bay has better speed although I don't know if that makes any difference on such a short route. At any rate, I think the SB may have a limited role in the future as a refit or contingency vessel. *There appears to be duplicate sets of concrete ramps on both sides of the Needles-Fauquier crossing, one with the cables embedded for the current cable ferry, and the other ramps without cables that will accommodate the Shelter Bay (aka old Needles). The DEV galena will be kept in service for at least 2 years, and i think eventually it will be retired for good, although i strongly disagree with that choice, should the columbia go down for any length of time, the route will be completely shut down until it is repaired. The galena should be parked like the shelter bay was and used until the day the columbia is retired
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 28, 2014 17:58:22 GMT -8
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Post by Wolf on Jun 29, 2014 10:41:50 GMT -8
As for the Shelter Bay most know that she was originally the Needles, being replaced on the Hwy 6 route in 1990 by the cable ferry that now has the name Needles. Does anyone know if the Shelter Bay is ever used to sub for the cable Needles when serious maintenance is required?* Both vessels have about the same car capacity and the Shelter Bay has better speed although I don't know if that makes any difference on such a short route. At any rate, I think the SB may have a limited role in the future as a refit or contingency vessel. Yes, MV Shelter Bay does occasionally fill in for the cable ferries further down the lake. I was told this, when I did some ferry-riding on the ships, last September. She was also used to help pull the newbuild Columbia hull off it's shipyard ramp. Im assuming the galena will be filling in where needed as well. However the galena is older than the shelter bay so i doubt it.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 29, 2014 15:59:53 GMT -8
The Shelter Bay might also be in better shape due to having had an 'easier life' to date. I have calculated that the Galena must have in excess of 300,000 operating hours on her since she entered service in the 1960's. Her days have all been spent in fresh water, however, which is much kinder to vessels than salt water.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 20, 2014 11:13:37 GMT -8
Old (and with an uncertain future) Arrow Lakes ferries DEV Galena & MV Shelter Bay sitting idle near the Shelter Bay terminal, with the new boat, MV Columbia, now providing all service - 12 July 2014. Though these vessels have much different car & passenger capacities, it is clear that they are 'sisters'. © WCK-JST by Wett Coast, on Flickr
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 20, 2014 11:15:53 GMT -8
why dont they use the Galena as an extra boat on the Kootenay Lake route and retire that old MV Balfour boat??? I actually like the design of the Galena and Shelter Bay more than the new boat!
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Post by SolDuc on Jul 20, 2014 13:37:30 GMT -8
Old (and with an uncertain future) Arrow Lakes ferries DEV Galena & MV Shelter Bay sitting idle near the Shelter Bay terminal, with the new boat, MV Columbia, now providing all service - 12 July 2014. Though these vessels have much different car & passenger capacities, it is clear that they are 'sisters'. How about "cousins"?
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