Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 30, 2005 18:39:01 GMT -8
I checked out the route, and this is a very short crossing of the west-arm of Kootenay Lake, just west of Balfour. So it doesn't cross the main part of the Lake, but rather it's just to connect Hwy 3A to an isolated community on the other side.
So, at first glance, I think that this ferry is way too big for just 1 little community. It's not like Needles-Fauqier, which is a thru-route highway. This Harrop is just a dead end.
Therefore, I'd expect a very small ferry, like on the Fraser river, or like at Arrow Park.
I know that this Harrop ferry looks pretty small as it is, but I'm surprised that it's that big.
Too bad it's part of the BC Ministry of Transportation's inland fleet. That means that we all have to pay for it, to subsidize some Kootenaians' desire to live in an isolated corner accross the lake from the main highway. It should actually be part of a Regional District: that way, the tax revenue would only be charged to residents in that local service area. That would be more fair.
That being said, this Harrop route will probably never get a new ferry. When the current one dies, it will probably be time for a bridge.
Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 30, 2005 20:30:45 GMT -8
Yeah I saw the sign for the Harrop ferry 2 summers ago when we took the Kootenay Bay ferry and were driving from the Balfour terminal to Nelson we passed the sign for it. It does look rather big for the route. They could get by with a mill bay sized ferry probably!
I'm pretty sure all they drive on that Island is Golf Carts, if that, on dirt trails. I don't think the community over there would appreciate rich people coming over in their *Bling Bling* SUVs looking for real estate as an investment.
Post by Coastal Skier on Nov 9, 2005 17:21:28 GMT -8
Bloody rich people and their fancy stuff. I enjoy watching them and laughing at them. I was in Stanley Park today for a field trip and as I was waiting for everyone else to arrive, and these 2 guys were comparing their Porsche's "oh look, mine is a convertible, yours isn't, therefore mine is better!". They're obviously compensating for something (and I won't mention it here). I'm fine with my Honda Civic thank-you, And I live in a neighborhood full of rich people, and just across the river from the British Properties...
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Realy? 16 cars would be good Idea for protection Island, that is what it is like, going to the isolated community, Protection nearly is an Isolated community.
Protection Island doesnt even have roads. A 16 car ferry like the Mill Bay would be good for and island that has at least 200 people living on it. Protection Island has alot less than 100 people and its not isolated, its right across the harbour from Nanaimo.
i resent that as i live on protection, and yes we have roads, and this may suprise you, we even have cars. the roads might be gravel, and the majority of people own golf carts insted, but the island is peacful and nice and the community is very tight knit, a ferry isn't the answer, but it would probably be nice to have regular garbage pickup insted of having to carry it accros on the protection connection
Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 5, 2006 10:31:19 GMT -8
What is in Procter??? Does anyone know or has been there??? We are gonna be in the area in like two weeks after we take the Chilliwack to Bella Coola were are going into the Okanagan and Kootenays and are gonna get on the Galena Bay ferry, Osprey and Balfour ferries and maybe the Harrop ferry or at least see that one.
Proctor and Harrop are two small rural communities which combined are around 1000 people. I do think the size of the ferry is not oversized, it seems to fill up on occasion especially when the school buses are aboard. The plan is to build a bridge within the next ten years. It will interest some of you to know that the Harrop Ferry is the same same ferry that used to be in Needles. Before it was here Harrop had a Arrow Park sized ferry.
Post by BrianWilliams on Nov 10, 2006 21:11:23 GMT -8
The Harrop pic linked last year shows a boat that must be a twin to the Glade ferry:
-- as we saw it in August 2006.
Glade is west of Nelson on the Kootenay River, and like the Harrop/Proctor communities, it's a small rural district without road connections.
I think these little places are worth preserving at the small cost of a ferry. Their residents may not be as self-sufficient as decades ago; but the folks pay local, BC and Federal taxes too. And they forgo the chance of windfall real estate profits without a bridge - which we would all pay for.
Glade, Harrop and Proctor could become just more standard vacation-home/commuter suburbs with bridges. Leave 'em be, I say.
Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 29, 2012 20:39:26 GMT -8
A series of videos of the Harrop ferry, on the west arm of Kootenay Lake. - early morning on July 18, 2012. A misty morning on the lake.
I hope this shows us some interesting parts and operations of a ferry that doesn't get much attention. This also shows a cable-ferry close-up, for those who are wondering if we'll ever see something like this at Baynes Sound serving Denman Island.
Highlights: - ferry arriving at highway side of crossing. - on board tour. - seen from highway side, departing and disappearing into the mist. - a close-up view of the cables. The centre cable is the one that pulls the ship across the water.
Post by cobblehillian on Jul 30, 2012 8:46:05 GMT -8
Mr. Horn, thanks for the videos on the Harrop cable ferry. This is by far the largest, and most ship like one I have ever seen.
I have traveled in many areas where you have been in the last few weeks but never had the time to cover the marine and rail aspects in the depth that you have. Your pictures are great. The signature picture of the INTERNATIONAL is first class. What a beautiful vessel!
I am vicariously enjoying your trip from the comfort of my computer chair on Vancouver Island.