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Post by WettCoast on Jul 12, 2014 18:51:41 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 12, 2014 22:40:17 GMT -8
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Post by Wolf on Jul 13, 2014 10:53:54 GMT -8
A lounge would still work for it, the Francois forester run is not much longer than the galena/shelter bay run and it has a lounge.. You didn't get up to the bridge by any chance did you? I wasn't able to when i rode it (i was allowed up on the DEV galena's bridge once, its no different) the guy told me "its still too new, but maybe later on" but really thats no excuse, he never even asked the captain, he might've said yes if the guy had asked.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 13, 2014 11:00:13 GMT -8
Actually the Franscois Lake run is shorter than the Galen's run by 5 mins! The lounge isent much on that ship!
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Post by Wolf on Jul 18, 2014 11:32:55 GMT -8
Waterbridge steel has updated their site with the last bunch of photos of the final construction stage of the vessel MV Columbia Check it out here: www.waterbridgesteel.com/Finish.htmlAlso they have a new time lapse video of the ship in the water getting its car deck structure and bridge being installed
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 18, 2014 17:27:43 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 18, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -8
Jim, aka Wett Coast, now back home in Kitimat. In a week or so I will ride, for my first time, the other M/V Columbia, the AMHS flag ship. Here's hoping that you'll have a bit of dusk daylight remaining, as you pass through Seymour Narrows (assuming that you're taking Columbia southbound).
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 18, 2014 20:16:47 GMT -8
Jim, aka Wett Coast, now back home in Kitimat. In a week or so I will ride, for my first time, the other M/V Columbia, the AMHS flag ship. Here's hoping that you'll have a bit of dusk daylight remaining, as you pass through Seymour Narrows (assuming that you're taking Columbia southbound). No, I am doing a short north bound trip. For more see my more complete reply on the 30-day check in thread here. I am not wishing to not take this thread too far astray.
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Post by Neil on Jul 18, 2014 21:27:32 GMT -8
I really appreciate the photos and info that have been posted regarding this new vessel. I think the word unique would not be out of place, for a couple of reasons.
Look at the hull profile. This is a boat with a long, wide car deck placed on top of a much narrower, shorter hull. You could only get away with this configuration on a lake vessel. Second reason, not terribly flattering... this is a big ferry, over 300' long, although less than 500 net tons, and carrying 80 cars. Along with the Osprey 2000, this is the biggest lake ferry in North America west of the Great Lakes. And no passenger lounge. On a twenty minute crossing. It's like they said, we need to save money, so where can we skimp... oh yeah... the passengers! I realize that there are very few foot passengers on this route, but there surely are cyclists, and on a vessel this size, it seems bizarre that there isn't even a Klitsa sized lounge.
Still, the Columbia is an intriguing addition to the wide variety of ferries in service on BC's lakes and coast. I'm looking forward to riding some time in the near future.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:20 GMT -8
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Post by Wolf on Jul 22, 2014 7:33:08 GMT -8
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Post by Wolf on Jul 29, 2014 16:53:39 GMT -8
Just some extra mv columbia photos i didnt post here yet
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Post by Wolf on Jul 29, 2014 20:16:27 GMT -8
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 6, 2014 10:46:26 GMT -8
I really appreciate the photos and info that have been posted regarding this new vessel. I think the word unique would not be out of place, for a couple of reasons.
Look at the hull profile. This is a boat with a long, wide car deck placed on top of a much narrower, shorter hull. You could only get away with this configuration on a lake vessel. Second reason, not terribly flattering... this is a big ferry, over 300' long, although less than 500 net tons, and carrying 80 cars. Along with the Osprey 2000, this is the biggest lake ferry in North America west of the Great Lakes. And no passenger lounge. On a twenty minute crossing. It's like they said, we need to save money, so where can we skimp... oh yeah... the passengers! I realize that there are very few foot passengers on this route, but there surely are cyclists, and on a vessel this size, it seems bizarre that there isn't even a Klitsa sized lounge.
Still, the Columbia is an intriguing addition to the wide variety of ferries in service on BC's lakes and coast. I'm looking forward to riding some time in the near future. And here I was thinking they had left out the passenger lounge just for you, Neil... Can't afford to waste those tax dollars .
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Post by Neil on Aug 6, 2014 21:24:36 GMT -8
I really appreciate the photos and info that have been posted regarding this new vessel. I think the word unique would not be out of place, for a couple of reasons.
Look at the hull profile. This is a boat with a long, wide car deck placed on top of a much narrower, shorter hull. You could only get away with this configuration on a lake vessel. Second reason, not terribly flattering... this is a big ferry, over 300' long, although less than 500 net tons, and carrying 80 cars. Along with the Osprey 2000, this is the biggest lake ferry in North America west of the Great Lakes. And no passenger lounge. On a twenty minute crossing. It's like they said, we need to save money, so where can we skimp... oh yeah... the passengers! I realize that there are very few foot passengers on this route, but there surely are cyclists, and on a vessel this size, it seems bizarre that there isn't even a Klitsa sized lounge.
Still, the Columbia is an intriguing addition to the wide variety of ferries in service on BC's lakes and coast. I'm looking forward to riding some time in the near future. And here I was thinking they had left out the passenger lounge just for you, Neil... Can't afford to waste those tax dollars . Taxpayers' dollars to pay for creature comforts like a basic lounge to shelter in, yes... public funds to maintain 1960s style aesthetics... nah.
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 7, 2014 11:52:25 GMT -8
And here I was thinking they had left out the passenger lounge just for you, Neil... Can't afford to waste those tax dollars . Taxpayers' dollars to pay for creature comforts like a basic lounge to shelter in, yes... public funds to maintain 1960s style aesthetics... nah. However: they could have put a lounge on the car deck, opposite the wheelhouse, which might have actually added symmetry... Can't have that: too 1960s style. I am curious now, though, how did the Osprey 2000 manage to escape such a no frills approach? I've seen the decorative Osprey motifs in her passenger lounges, and she even has more than one lounge. Lucky for us, her name didn't escape current trends, but somehow the MV Columbia did. If we're going to go all out with up to date, BCFS style no-frills vessel building and naming, they should at least have picked a name like Revelstoke Renaissance or Nakusp Sky to name this ferry to reflect, uh, something about the area of the Columbia River it sails through.
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Post by Wolf on Aug 8, 2014 0:05:32 GMT -8
Taxpayers' dollars to pay for creature comforts like a basic lounge to shelter in, yes... public funds to maintain 1960s style aesthetics... nah. However: they could have put a lounge on the car deck, opposite the wheelhouse, which might have actually added symmetry... Can't have that: too 1960s style. I am curious now, though, how did the Osprey 2000 manage to escape such a no frills approach? I've seen the decorative Osprey motifs in her passenger lounges, and she even has more than one lounge. Lucky for us, her name didn't escape current trends, but somehow the MV Columbia did. If we're going to go all out with up to date, BCFS style no-frills vessel building and naming, they should at least have picked a name like Revelstoke Renaissance or Nakusp Sky to name this ferry to reflect, uh, something about the area of the Columbia River it sails through. It was named after the columbia river, whats wrong with that? After all, it existed long before arrow lakes. But if you think about it, what else could they have named it to represent the area it serves that is suitable and doesn't sound lame? Galena bay is taken, so is shelter bay. Eagle bay doesn't work because eagle bay isn't apart of the route, its a log dump. Beaton arm isn't in the route either. The only other name i can think of that would be good is "MV Arrowhead" or "MV Naccilewaet" (named after the mini pass before you drop down to the junction to trout lake/ferry ramp, in between halcyon and the junction, where HMC trout lake and YRB Nakusp border each other) Also they could've used the names of the twin mountains that tower over shelter bay, mount Odin and mount Thor
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Post by Wolf on Oct 19, 2014 15:43:12 GMT -8
I noticed no one has new photos or anything and no posts lately so ill post a short story. Yesterday i rode the ferry on my way to salmon arm for a gun show, and whoever was at the helm was going quite slow. While on the shelter bay terminal approach, the captain for some reason had miss calculated the turn and put the ferry sideways. I almost thought we were going to hit the rocks. I know its a big ship and alot slower reaction time for turning but this goes too far..
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Post by Wolf on Jan 24, 2015 1:52:57 GMT -8
I heard a rumour that waterbridge will be building at least 2 new ferries at the very site the columbia was constructed. Now, being as im in a welder training program in nelson, ill be done in april and will be applying at waterbridge regardless (there are other ferries that may need repairs or upgrades) but if i find out anymore info ill post it here. All i know is one of them will be replacing the arrowpark ferry and 1 or 2 more will be built in sections and shipped elsewhere. Remember, this is all just rumour, not actual fact so dont go crazy lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 6:32:50 GMT -8
Interesting. Are the Galena and Shelter Bay still moored to those Pilings near one of the terminals? Would make sense to me to retire the Galena, or perhaps she will get a TLU of sorts.
Good to know that the Arrow Park is being replaced, that thing was built in the 40's if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 24, 2015 8:27:52 GMT -8
Good to know that the Arrow Park is being replaced, that thing was built in the 40's if I'm not mistaken. Right on. Arrow Park cable ferry, seen by me on September 10, 2013. Builder's plaque. - Where was the builder in Vancouver and what else did that shipyard do? This was a company that Arthur McLaren managed, located in False Creek area. The company had its hey-day during WWII doing mass production of wartime ships. The post-war transition to varied types of ships was tough on this company, and the owners' decision to fold the company was made in 1948. - This Arrow Park ferry's plaque says "1949" so obviously it took a bit of time to get the folding-plan completed and also this would be one of the last ships done by this old company. - After the West Coast Shipbuilds yard was shut, Arthur McLaren took the opportunity to lease a small portion of a property on False Creek and started a new shipyard that he named "Allied Builders." You might have heard of it.... - Page 120 of the book "Ships of Steel" mentions that during the late 1940s and early 1950s, many of the old wood inland ferries were replaced with new steel hull craft.
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Post by Wolf on Jan 24, 2015 10:05:01 GMT -8
Interesting. Are the Galena and Shelter Bay still moored to those Pilings near one of the terminals? Would make sense to me to retire the Galena, or perhaps she will get a TLU of sorts. Good to know that the Arrow Park is being replaced, that thing was built in the 40's if I'm not mistaken. As far as i know they are both still there, i havent been up that way in a long time but i dont see any reason why they wouldnt be there still
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Post by Wolf on Apr 24, 2015 14:09:07 GMT -8
MV Columbia has its first official break down. From drive bc website: "Reduced ferry service from Galena Bay to Shelter Bay (4.9 km). Smaller vessel, MV Shelter Bay, is operating in place of the MV Columbia which is undergoing repairs to propeller. Delays of up to 2 hours should be expected due to decreased vessel capacity. Updated on Fri Apr 24 at 12:16 pm PDT. (ID# -52243)" According to rumour, the ferry had to operate like the mv balfour, having to turn around and back in due to an issue with the propellor not going into reverse, and they have to bring in a technician from Finland to fix it, however the propellors are made by Voith Schneider in Germany. Also, not sure why they are using the MV shelter bay, the DEV galena has bigger capacity and has more speed.. Update: globalnews.ca/news/1959974/ferry-troubles-could-cause-significant-delays/Submerged log damaged the propellor
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Post by Wolf on Apr 24, 2015 14:17:58 GMT -8
Id like to add also that i talked to the supervisor of waterbridge steel at their site (as i am currently looking for work) and he said they have bid on three ferry contracts but they dont know when they will be awarded. And they will be building barges and tug boats at the site. They will be looking for welders soon and once they get contracts ill eventually be working there, so ill be able to give this site some sneak peak photos of the progress (hopefully) in which case youll need to create a separate thread for photos and info.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 15:17:11 GMT -8
Does anybody know why they choose cycloidal drives from Voith Schneider over normal propellers?
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