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Post by rwbsparks on Nov 14, 2017 18:58:07 GMT -8
The to-be Clipper V looks like a great boat. Sad I won't get to see it in Seattle.
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Post by grk on Dec 18, 2017 15:07:23 GMT -8
Clipper V arrived in Victoria today, December 18,on the deck of heavy lift vessel. Local media are covering the off loading, and pictures should be on line later today. Try Times Colonist, CHEK tv, and CTV Vancouver Island for photos. I am a little surprised that portions of the hull show signs of heavy usage, with some plates having the typical "oil canning" indentations. Great looking vessel though, and much larger than the IV and the original vessel.
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Post by Dane on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:15 GMT -8
I don't see a Clipper thread? Or is it the American sub-board? Anyways the new Canadian (albeit probably not for long) Clipper had arrived in Victoria at Ogden Point in the space just cleared by the newly arrived 'Sea Wolf. http://instagram.com/p/Bc5Qcb-HyMq |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 19, 2017 13:17:12 GMT -8
I don't see a Clipper thread? Or is it the American sub-board? Anyways the new Canadian (albeit probably not for long) Clipper had arrived in Victoria at Ogden Point in the space just cleared by the newly arrived 'Sea Wolf. I moved you to the USA, Dane. |
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Post by Dane on Dec 19, 2017 15:37:05 GMT -8
Today's the first time I noticed that the existing Clippers are registered to Nassau. Seems pretty dodgy - I assume for tax dodging reasons? Hurray for responsible corporate citizenship.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 19, 2017 15:54:35 GMT -8
Today's the first time I noticed that the existing Clippers are registered to Nassau. Seems pretty dodgy - I assume for tax dodging reasons? Hurray for responsible corporate citizenship. They travel between 2 countries, so the Jones Act doesn't apply to their origin or registration. It is pretty common-place to register a ship under a flag of convenience, but of course that's irrelevant to your point of it being dodgy. Clipper Navigation is owned by Förde Reederei Seetouristik (FRS) of Flensburg, Germany, and I'm not sure how taxes work for a German company operating in the USA & Canada. |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 19, 2017 19:26:51 GMT -8
Today's the first time I noticed that the existing Clippers are registered to Nassau. Seems pretty dodgy - I assume for tax dodging reasons? Hurray for responsible corporate citizenship. Dane, not all of them. Clipper iii is US-flagged. It is the only one that they can operate on US domestic routes. See discussion that we had on this topic two years ago on page 2 of this thread. |
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 20, 2018 11:36:41 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Feb 20, 2018 11:47:25 GMT -8
Interesting that two boats are being replaced. I don't take know the Clippers schedule - is there a service reduction as a result?
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Post by grk on Feb 20, 2018 13:50:59 GMT -8
It will be a little sad to see the original Clipper depart Victoria for the last time today. That vessel has provided very reliable service for over 25 years. As a Victorian, and one who works in the marine industry, I would like to commend Clipper for being such a great part of our tourism sector. In all those years there have been some weather related cancellations, and yet Clipper always provided alternative transportation (bus and Coho, or bus and BC Ferries) or if all ferries shut down they offered hotel rooms. As for the Clipper itself, there have been very very few mechanical issues over the years. Both the company and the vessel have contributed to Victoria's maritime history.
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Post by Edmondsguy on Feb 20, 2018 15:35:13 GMT -8
Does anyone have pictures of Victoria clipper II?
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 20, 2018 20:17:20 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 20, 2018 22:03:44 GMT -8
I wonder why Victoria Clipper is retiring Victoria Clipper IV when it could be used as backup for Victoria Clipper V and add more sailing on Victoria to Seattle route.
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Post by Neil on Feb 20, 2018 23:42:09 GMT -8
I wonder why Victoria Clipper is retiring Victoria Clipper IV when it could be used as backup for Victoria Clipper V and add more sailing on Victoria to Seattle route. Are you basing your remarks on traffic statistics that show Clipper leaving passengers behind on a lot of sailings? They're already adding capacity with the new vessel. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 21, 2018 0:07:34 GMT -8
I wonder why Victoria Clipper is retiring Victoria Clipper IV when it could be used as backup for Victoria Clipper V and add more sailing on Victoria to Seattle route. Are you basing your remarks on traffic statistics that show Clipper leaving passengers behind on a lot of sailings? They're already adding capacity with the new vessel. No but for future growth of the route. |
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Post by Neil on Feb 21, 2018 10:23:22 GMT -8
Are you basing your remarks on traffic statistics that show Clipper leaving passengers behind on a lot of sailings? They're already adding capacity with the new vessel. No but for future growth of the route. That's why they've added capacity. I think they know what their present and future needs are, and they know how many boats they can afford to operate. |
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Post by dofd on Feb 21, 2018 11:40:50 GMT -8
From reading the article about, the Clipper V will carry 440 passengers. That is a 140 passenger reduction from what she carried in Germany. I know some of that space has been converted to storage for more luggage.
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Post by BreannaF on Feb 21, 2018 17:37:04 GMT -8
I had the honor of being at the Seattle dock when the Victoria Clipper arrived on its final voyage yesterday. The photos I took were not fit for publication, just too dark. And, while I could only watch, my daughter and her friend were among those who were on this final trip. Yeah, I was there to pick them up.
Apparently, there was a small ceremony on board during the trip, involving refreshments and some really old champagne. I spoke briefly with a couple of people disembarking who seemed interested in the end of service, who both said that the ceremony didn't really seem to be fitting enough for such an occasion. And there was a very excited Mon with a young child who declared to everyone all the way up the ramp that her daughter was the last paying passenger to ever get off the ferry. The kid was cute....
The final trip left on time, but arrived about 30 minutes late. Other than that, I had known a few days ago that this would be the final trip, but was not aware that the IV would also be retired. It was also sitting at the Seattle terminal at the time.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 21, 2018 18:59:28 GMT -8
I had the honor of being at the Seattle dock when the Victoria Clipper arrived on its final voyage yesterday. The photos I took were not fit for publication, just too dark. And, while I could only watch, my daughter and her friend were among those who were on this final trip. Yeah, I was there to pick them up. Thanks Bree, for being there to witness that bit of history and for reporting it here. Being able to be transportation-nerd in the midst of everyday life is a great thing. |
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Post by grk on Feb 22, 2018 4:14:40 GMT -8
dofd pointed out that Clipper V will carry 140 less passengers than when she operated out of Hamburg Germany. It is my understanding that US Immigration has put a cap on the number of passengers than can be carried. Here in Victoria, US Immigration is done prior to passengers boarding the vessel, and passengers are then held in a waiting area after processing and before boarding the ship. That holding area is small and crowded. Once that area is full, the remaining passengers must wait for clearance until there is space in the holding area. The number of passengers held outside is so great that the officials are unable to process them in a timely manner, leading to concerns for the officials. The facilities in Victoria are in the same building that the Princess Marguerite used in the 1970's and is dire need of replacement.
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Post by rwbsparks on Mar 21, 2018 21:18:26 GMT -8
So what will be the fate of clippers I and IV? I could see IV going to San Francisco. As for Clipper I is there a chance of her being used somewhere else on the West Coast or is her career on the West Coast likely done?
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Post by Edmondsguy on Mar 22, 2018 0:29:16 GMT -8
So what will be the fate of clippers I and IV? I could see IV going to San Francisco. As for Clipper I is there a chance of her being used somewhere else on the West Coast or is her career on the West Coast likely done? How could you see VC IV going to San Francisco bay when it can't be used there because of the Jones act??? It was built in 1993 Fjellstrand Yard in Norway... |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 22, 2018 4:26:16 GMT -8
So what will be the fate of clippers I and IV? I could see IV going to San Francisco. As for Clipper I is there a chance of her being used somewhere else on the West Coast or is her career on the West Coast likely done? How could you see VC IV going to San Francisco bay when it can't be used there because of the Jones act??? It was built in 1993 Fjellstrand Yard in Norway... I will buy one of your surplus question-marks. I suspect that the poster wasn't aware of the "not built in Amerika" history of the Clipper IV. |
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Post by rwbsparks on Mar 22, 2018 6:07:08 GMT -8
How could you see VC IV going to San Francisco bay when it can't be used there because of the Jones act??? It was built in 1993 Fjellstrand Yard in Norway... I will buy one of your surplus question-marks. I suspect that the poster wasn't aware of the "not built in Amerika" history of the Clipper IV. That’d be correct, my mistake. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 27, 2018 20:44:03 GMT -8
Victoria Clipper V heading to Downtown Seattle from the Victoria Inner Harbour. I am posting these photos because we don't have that many photos of her in service.  Victoria Clipper V by Blue Bus Fan, on Flickr
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