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Post by dave2 on Oct 25, 2019 21:42:50 GMT -8
SoVI headed back to Swartz. CCel is cancelling the last round trip. Rough day. Going to be busy tomorrow. Can confirm, a friend of mine is on the SOVI that left Swartz Bay around 7, after hanging out in Active Pass it's now headed back.
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Post by Neil on Oct 25, 2019 22:34:38 GMT -8
Ship characteristics. Sheesh Karl is it your first day?! 😋 We headed over the to Mainland just now on the Celebrations nominal 4pm sailing which left at 7pm from Swartz Bay. I'm shocked we sailed, but it was a lot of fun. My second bumpiest trip ever, easily the windiest I've seen them sail in a while. I was at the front of deck 4 and a wave came over me!! Sailing time was about two hours, as usual, fine until we left Active Pass. And the SoVI you mentioned departing when the SoBC didn't has been hanging out in Active Pass for about forty minutes. Not sure if it's for weather or because Tsawwassen has no births (SoBc, CCel, Alberni). Dane... you're roasting Karl, but then you write births...
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 26, 2019 4:17:21 GMT -8
SoVI headed back to Swartz.
CCel is cancelling the last round trip.
Rough day. Going to be busy tomorrow. Can confirm, a friend of mine is on the SOVI that left Swartz Bay around 7, after hanging out in Active Pass it's now headed back. It will definitely be busy. There are already three waits at TSA for route 1!
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Post by Starsteward on Oct 26, 2019 12:45:32 GMT -8
SoVI headed back to Swartz. CCel is cancelling the last round trip. Rough day. Going to be busy tomorrow. So a 'Salish' braved the open water between Active Pass and the mainland and the 'SOVI' turned and ran back to Swartz Bay? Hmmm, wonder what that was all about? Or am I missing something in the narrative?
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Post by Kahn_C on Oct 26, 2019 12:56:56 GMT -8
The Salish boats have impressive rough weather handling...
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dave2
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Post by dave2 on Oct 26, 2019 14:29:15 GMT -8
SoVI headed back to Swartz. CCel is cancelling the last round trip. Rough day. Going to be busy tomorrow.   So a 'Salish' braved the open water between Active Pass and the mainland and the 'SOVI' turned and ran back to Swartz Bay? Hmmm, wonder what that was all   about? Or am I missing something in the narrative?   My guess is it's because the SOVI is a single ender and she'd have to swing around before docking at Tsawwassen. And this marks my 100th post since joining in 2012. Woo hoo, promotion time!
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 26, 2019 15:41:46 GMT -8
  So a 'Salish' braved the open water between Active Pass and the mainland and the 'SOVI' turned and ran back to Swartz Bay? Hmmm, wonder what that was all   about? Or am I missing something in the narrative?   My guess is it's because the SOVI is a single ender and she'd have to swing around before docking at Tsawwassen. And this marks my 100th post since joining in 2012. Woo hoo, promotion time! So why didn’t BC Ferries could this with both Spirits instead of just Spirit of British Columbia?
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Post by Neil on Oct 26, 2019 18:06:43 GMT -8
The Salish boats have impressive rough weather handling... Seems to me the Powell River to Comox run is being cancelled about as often as it was with the Queen of Burnaby. I'd be interested to know what your view is based on.
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Post by Dane on Oct 26, 2019 18:12:14 GMT -8
They continued to use the profile of the Burnaby is what I'd heard.
In any event I think we can fairly conclude the ability of a ship to handle wind in the technical sense isn't what leads to a majority of weather related sailing cancellations.
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Post by Kahn_C on Oct 26, 2019 18:43:06 GMT -8
The Salish boats have impressive rough weather handling... Seems to me the Powell River to Comox run is being cancelled about as often as it was with the Queen of Burnaby. I'd be interested to know what your view is based on. I've been on them in much nastier stuff than the Burnaby would ever go in. Surprisingly smooth ride. The weather matrix seems to have been relaxed a little, but the PR to Comox run still gets cancelled quite a bit (but it is less).
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Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 26, 2019 18:54:38 GMT -8
I remember being on the SOVI years ago in the late 90’s or early 2000s one particular crossing the strait it was so rough one the windows was boarded up. She docked at Tsawwassen then turned around and went right back. Is it me or is BC Ferries seem overly cautious now?? I dident think the wind was all that bad last night but I was not out there! My brother and his work buddy spent the night at Tsawwassen after being there since 1:30pm! They finally made a reservation and took the 5:15am to Duke Point this morning! Would of been a long night!
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 26, 2019 20:20:20 GMT -8
They continued to use the profile of the Burnaby is what I'd heard. In any event I think we can fairly conclude the ability of a ship to handle wind in the technical sense isn't what leads to a majority of weather related sailing cancellations. Why wouldn’t BC Ferries change to profile of Salish Class since they been in fleet for close to three years? I would hope the crews know how to handle the vessel in rough weather.
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Post by yak on Oct 26, 2019 21:01:15 GMT -8
They continued to use the profile of the Burnaby is what I'd heard. In any event I think we can fairly conclude the ability of a ship to handle wind in the technical sense isn't what leads to a majority of weather related sailing cancellations. Why wouldn’t BC Ferries change to profile of Salish Class since they been in fleet for close to three years? I would hope the crews know how to handle the vessel in rough weather. Crews certainly do... The fact is that "passenger comfort" (ie. risk vs. reward) is the driving force behind most cancellations. The ship can definitely handle anything thrown at it in the Strait of Georgia but what about the 80 year old grandmother climbing the stairs? I've had to make that choice before while knowing what a Salish Class vessel can feel like in the open ocean during December (during the delivery cruise of the Orca). Weather Matrices give Masters a clear-cut go/no-go. Could I sail the Eagle out into 50kts of wind from the Southeast and be sure she'd be able to make the crossing to Powell River? Sure, I could... but the fact is that the ship can handle far more than the passengers. We deal with a cross section of the public and the limits are in place to be considerate of anyone who may be on board. The Little River - Westview route deals with much more fetch (the distance over which wind travels over water creating waves) than other runs down south and so the effects of weather can be much more pronounced.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Oct 26, 2019 21:37:35 GMT -8
Why wouldn’t BC Ferries change to profile of Salish Class since they been in fleet for close to three years? I would hope the crews know how to handle the vessel in rough weather. Crews certainly do... The fact is that "passenger comfort" (ie. risk vs. reward) is the driving force behind most cancellations. The ship can definitely handle anything thrown at it in the Strait of Georgia but what about the 80 year old grandmother climbing the stairs? I've had to make that choice before while knowing what a Salish Class vessel can feel like in the open ocean during December (during the delivery cruise of the Orca). Weather Matrices give Masters a clear-cut go/no-go. Could I sail the Eagle out into 50kts of wind from the Southeast and be sure she'd be able to make the crossing to Powell River? Sure, I could... but the fact is that the ship can handle far more than the passengers. We deal with a cross section of the public and the limits are in place to be considerate of anyone who may be on board. The Little River - Westview route deals with much more fetch (the distance over which wind travels over water creating waves) than other runs down south and so the effects of weather can be much more pronounced. As someone who travelled on route 2 several times a month throughout the 80's and 90's I can definitely say that there wasn't as much consideration given to "passenger comfort" then as there is now. At that time, route 2 experienced weather-related cancellations less often than it does now. Those C-class would go back and forth with waves pounding into them, sometimes losing a window or two in the process. After a wind storm like we had yesterday, the Oak Bay or the Surrey would usually have at least one of the end lounge window openings covered with a wooden "window plug" for a few days until repairs could be made. A few times during a big storm, I'd head down to Departure Bay to go for a round trip just for the excitement of it. As scary as it seemed sometimes, I never felt unsafe.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 7, 2019 16:09:17 GMT -8
The Salish Raven, currently serving on the Swartz Bay - SGI's route, is 'having issues'; thruster problems it seems ...
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Post by Dane on Nov 7, 2019 16:52:00 GMT -8
Interesting to watch today as I had about a twenty minute view from my traditional territory of the SoBC buffet. Apparently they needed to call a crew in for the CCel for birth space, and two tugs? Perhaps someone can verify? There was certainly one tug that I watched approach the Raven as we sailed away. And the CCel was bobbing away just North of Swartz Bay.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 13, 2019 16:36:48 GMT -8
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Post by Thor's Echo on Dec 7, 2019 13:17:03 GMT -8
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Post by Thor's Echo on Dec 17, 2019 14:48:48 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Jan 2, 2020 20:34:29 GMT -8
Tonight on Route 2 the Cowichan is cancelling one round trip for a staffing issue.
We have seen service notices for late sailings because of crew delays or similar, and seen very occasionally minor route cancellations... However this is the first time I recall as a somewhat regular observer that a "big boat" actually cancelled a sailing for crew.
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Post by hwy19man on Jan 3, 2020 14:20:35 GMT -8
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Post by paddlehardercafe on Jan 11, 2020 15:45:07 GMT -8
MV Quninitsa is hard bent as an old captain saying goes. Done for the rest of the day with water taxi service in place. I bet folks on SSI are going to be happy to see the Bowen Queen soon.
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Post by articulated on Jan 11, 2020 19:02:33 GMT -8
MV Quninitsa is hard bent as an old captain saying goes. Done for the rest of the day with water taxi service in place. I bet folks on SSI are going to be happy to see the Bowen Queen soon. Quinitsa has resumed sailing with the 6:45pm sailing tonight.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 11, 2020 19:21:45 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 12, 2020 12:11:09 GMT -8
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