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Post by WettCoast on Oct 21, 2020 19:59:35 GMT -8
I believe it's because the Tsawwassen-based route 30 crews aren't certified on the Coastals or the original C's....at least that was the case in the past. Since the New West is in refit, that would leave them with no other options. What you say used to be true, but in recent years the Coastal Renaissance has subbed for the Spirit of BC during slower parts of the year, and during refits. When that happens she is crewed out of Tsawwassen.
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Post by Scott on Oct 21, 2020 20:09:34 GMT -8
I believe it's because the Tsawwassen-based route 30 crews aren't certified on the Coastals or the original C's....at least that was the case in the past. Since the New West is in refit, that would leave them with no other options. What you say used to be true, but in recent years the Coastal Renaissance has subbed for the Spirit of BC during slower parts of the year, and during refits. When that happens she is crewed out of Tsawwassen. FerryFanYVR is correct. Tsawwassen's Route 1 crews are trained on a Coastal. Their Route 30 crews are not.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 22, 2020 7:40:06 GMT -8
What you say used to be true, but in recent years the Coastal Renaissance has subbed for the Spirit of BC during slower parts of the year, and during refits. When that happens she is crewed out of Tsawwassen. FerryFanYVR is correct. Tsawwassen's Route 1 crews are trained on a Coastal. Their Route 30 crews are not. It is my understanding that Tsawwassen crews go back & forth between route 1 & 30 ships routinely. Are you sure that that does not happen?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 22, 2020 9:43:06 GMT -8
But BC Ferries could also add 1:15 am for Queen of Coquitlam from Tsawwassen to Departure Bay cargo only. The Coastal Celebration could do an 8:15 pm from Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay to prevent deadheads for ferries. These two sailing could make for some lost sailing on route 30.
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Post by Scott on Oct 22, 2020 15:51:27 GMT -8
It is my understanding that Tsawwassen crews go back & forth between route 1 & 30 ships routinely. Are you sure that that does not happen? That does not happen. There are three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 30 vessel and three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 1 vessel. While some casual (on-call) employees may be trained to work on some or all vessels out of Tsawwassen, the entire Tsawwassen-based Route 30 crew compliment is only certified for the Alberni and New West.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 22, 2020 16:46:33 GMT -8
It is my understanding that Tsawwassen crews go back & forth between route 1 & 30 ships routinely. Are you sure that that does not happen? That does not happen. There are three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 30 vessel and three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 1 vessel. While some casual (on-call) employees may be trained to work on some or all vessels out of Tsawwassen, the entire Tsawwassen-based Route 30 crew compliment is only certified for the Alberni and New West.Then it begs the question ... The Coastals were billed as operable on all major routes from all major terminals. Here we are 12 years later and obviously that has not happened.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 22, 2020 17:18:52 GMT -8
That does not happen. There are three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 30 vessel and three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 1 vessel. While some casual (on-call) employees may be trained to work on some or all vessels out of Tsawwassen, the entire Tsawwassen-based Route 30 crew compliment is only certified for the Alberni and New West.Then it begs the question ... The Coastals were billed as operable on all major routes from all major terminals. Here we are 12 years later and obviously that has not happened. Maybe it’s time to get the crew on route 30 out of Tsawwassen trained up on Coastal Class because in the future they may be refit replacement.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 22, 2020 19:41:44 GMT -8
It is my understanding that Tsawwassen crews go back & forth between route 1 & 30 ships routinely. Are you sure that that does not happen? That does not happen. There are three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 30 vessel and three permanent crews dedicated only to the Route 1 vessel. While some casual (on-call) employees may be trained to work on some or all vessels out of Tsawwassen, the entire Tsawwassen-based Route 30 crew compliment is only certified for the Alberni and New West.So Scott in the summer (and other busy periods) they have to crew 4 vessels (2 ships route 1, 1 ship route 30 & 1 ship route 9A). How do they manage that?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 22, 2020 20:09:23 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Oct 22, 2020 20:37:45 GMT -8
Then it begs the question ... The Coastals were billed as operable on all major routes from all major terminals. Here we are 12 years later and obviously that has not happened. I cannot find anything stating they were to be operable on all major routes from all major terminals when new. Designed for and operable on all major routes, yes, but nothing about being operable on all major routes by all major terminals. Where did you hear/see this? So Scott in the summer (and other busy periods) they have to crew 4 vessels (2 ships route 1, 1 ship route 30 & 1 ship route 9A). How do they manage that? They’ll assemble three crews to each of those two additional vessels before they enter service in the peak season. I’d like to bring attention to the fact that this is a service notice thread. Discussion in regards to employment/crewing should take place in the appropriate thread.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 27, 2020 17:04:40 GMT -8
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 28, 2020 4:11:20 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 5, 2020 18:39:43 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 11, 2020 20:11:18 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 19, 2020 15:58:49 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 25, 2020 18:07:33 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Nov 25, 2020 18:30:28 GMT -8
Well, that's interesting. For three days, Quadra Islanders will have a frequency of ferry service that matches a lot of suburban bus routes. I'm guessing this is the first time Quadra has had two boats since the days Quadra Queen II ran in tandem with Tachek, prior to the Powell River Queen coming over from Saltery Bay.
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Post by articulated on Nov 29, 2020 19:19:59 GMT -8
That is interesting news. I'm curious on where Island Aurora will be based out of - is the tie-up dock on Quadra Island complete, or will they store Island Aurora down at Buckley Bay and sail it up each morning, and down each evening?
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Post by Neil on Nov 29, 2020 22:27:34 GMT -8
That is interesting news. I'm curious on where Island Aurora will be based out of - is the tie-up dock on Quadra Island complete, or will they store Island Aurora down at Buckley Bay and sail it up each morning, and down each evening? Good question... hadn't considered that. I guess if they were going to run the ' Aurora for the entire service day, she could based at Campbell River, but when I heard this news, I assumed that she might be running for eight hours or so... obviously that wouldn't work.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 2, 2020 19:10:30 GMT -8
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Post by articulated on Dec 2, 2020 20:40:15 GMT -8
For record-keeping purposes, according to Marine Traffic Island Aurora left Point Hope just before noon yesterday (December 1st), sailed to Swartz Bay, and did its sea trials in Saanich Inlet before returning to Swartz Bay for the night. (This is likely what caused its service on route 23 to shift from Dec 2/3/4 to Dec 3/4/5). As of tonight (December 2nd), she's tied up at Buckley Bay, so seems like that answers my earlier question as to where she will be based out of.
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Post by Neil on Dec 2, 2020 22:32:07 GMT -8
For record-keeping purposes, according to Marine Traffic Island Aurora left Point Hope just before noon yesterday (December 1st), sailed to Swartz Bay, and did its sea trials in Saanich Inlet before returning to Swartz Bay for the night. (This is likely what caused its service on route 23 to shift from Dec 2/3/4 to Dec 3/4/5). As of tonight (December 2nd), she's tied up at Buckley Bay, so seems like that answers my earlier question as to where she will be based out of. Rough estimate is about 39 nautical miles from Buckley Bay to Campbell River. That's a considerable 'positioning cruise' twice a day, but you might be right... don't know where else they'd be overnighting. Maybe we'll be surprised.
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Post by Neil on Dec 3, 2020 23:26:53 GMT -8
So... at this late hour, the Island Aurora looks tucked in at Campbell River. I guess she's not going back to Buckley Bay, which I guess means that she will be alternating all day tomorrow and Saturday with the Powell River Queen, whether she's taking passengers or not.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 21, 2020 18:17:31 GMT -8
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Post by paddlehardercafe on Jan 4, 2021 22:10:44 GMT -8
Did I miss a service notice that the Cumberland is side lined and the Salish Eagle is taking her place on the SGI route. Or is this training for the replacement for the Mayne Queen when the 4th Salish class vessel arrives?
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