darren
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Post by darren on Mar 12, 2017 11:29:11 GMT -8
Hello all, I'm grateful to have found this group. I'm writing the biography of the woman in this picture (Hope Johnson, 1916-2010). She lived in Victoria, BC about 1920-1941. In this picture of her, taken in Vancouver or Victoria in 1941, a ship appears in the background. For her biography I am simply trying to identify the name of this ship. Does anyone know? Please reply here and to my personal Hotmail (if group rules allow it): dtanke@hotmail.com Many thanks, Darren Update: I am pretty sure image is 1941, she was good about identifying dates and such. My thoughts were that we are looking not at the front, but more the stern end of the ship. The stairway to me seems not to be on the midline but off centre, suggesting (assuming the infrastructure on the ship is symmetrical) that this is but one of two stairways, one on either side of the midline. Also there is a thickened ridge below the white painted area- some sort of bumper? The other Princess family of ferries seem to show this ridge.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 12, 2017 11:52:48 GMT -8
Hello all, I'm grateful to have found this group. I'm writing the biography of the woman in this picture (Hope Johnson, 1916-2010). She lived in Victoria, BC about 1920-1941. In this picture of her, taken in Vancouver or Victoria in 1941, a ship appears in the background. For her biography I am simply trying to identify the name of this ship. Does anyone know? Please reply here and to my personal Hotmail (if group rules allow it): dtanke@hotmail.com Many thanks, Darren View AttachmentI believe she is the Princess Victoria, part of the CPR's BC Coast Service of steamers. Here's a link to a supporting photo with same staircase, same side freight door, and of course the black hull and 3 funnels. HEREEmail also sent. |
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Post by minstrel on Mar 12, 2017 15:39:26 GMT -8
From my recollection of the area, I believe this picture is taken in Vancouver harbour, and the Steamship would be either the SS PRincess Joan or Elizabeth. By googling these two vessels pictures can be reviewed of these two vessels
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 12, 2017 18:19:36 GMT -8
From my recollection of the area, I believe this picture is taken in Vancouver harbour, and the Steamship would be either the SS PRincess Joan or Elizabeth. By googling these two vessels pictures can be reviewed of these two vessels I considered the Joan & Elisabeth, but the staircase on the front outside deck was the problem. Those sisters didn't have that staircase. Princess Victoria had that outside staircase. |
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Post by minstrel on Mar 12, 2017 18:58:25 GMT -8
Of course my mistake, the three stacker with a forward staircase was the Princess Elaine, which was in service until its unfortunate end in Alaska in the 1950s
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 12, 2017 19:59:10 GMT -8
The forward decks don't match that of the Princess Elaine. (ps: Princess Elaine wasn't lost in Alaska).
The ship in the photo looks close to Princess Marguerite (I) and Princess Kathleen (which was lost in Alaska in the 1950s), but those two ships were requisitioned to war service in 1939, so they wouldn't be in Vancouver in 1941.
I'm sticking with the remodeled Princess Victoria.
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 12, 2017 20:29:37 GMT -8
The forward decks don't match that of the Princess Elaine. (ps: Princess Elaine wasn't lost in Alaska). The ship in the photo looks close to Princess Marguerite (I) and Princess Kathleen (which was lost in Alaska in the 1950s), but those two ships were requisitioned to war service in 1939, so they wouldn't be in Vancouver in 1941. I'm sticking with the remodeled Princess Victoria. No, I don't think that this is the P. Victoria because the funnels look to be too short, and there is the matter of that mast in front of the wheelhouse. I believe this to be either of the first P. Marguerite, or its sister, the P. Kathleen. I am on the road again so I can't check R. Turner's books, but if memory serves me, I don't think that they were requisitioned for war service until a few years after WW II started. Question for darren , how certain are you about the date? This photo might be worth circulating on the 'BC Nautical History' FB page. |
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Post by minstrel on Mar 13, 2017 15:57:03 GMT -8
I would agree that this could be the Princess Kathleen in the photo. she was the Princess ship lost in Alaska in the 1950s as well, not ht e princess Elane hich I believe ended up as a restaurant in the United States.
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