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Post by markkarj on Jul 30, 2017 3:57:57 GMT -8
Assuming the new government is in power for long enough to affect decisions on new ferries, what will be the direction taken with respect to off-shore construction?
I remember the shipbuilders' union being angry about the construction of the Coastal class ships in Germany.
Even if a BC yard doesn't have the best price, will the government perhaps require new ships to be built here? Or has that ship sailed (pardon the pun)?
I'll add that I don't have any political/partisan interest in this (I don't even live in BC any longer). I'm just very interested in the issue.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 30, 2017 7:11:10 GMT -8
Assuming the new government is in power for long enough to affect decisions on new ferries, what will be the direction taken with respect to off-shore construction? I remember the shipbuilders' union being angry about the construction of the Coastal class ships in Germany. Even if a BC yard doesn't have the best price, will the government perhaps require new ships to be built here? Or has that ship sailed (pardon the pun)? I'll add that I don't have any political/partisan interest in this (I don't even live in BC any longer). I'm just very interested in the issue. The quote that I remember seeing from Claire Trevana recently is that they want BC shipyards to have a "fair chance" in bidding on BC Ferries newbuild work.
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Post by markkarj on Jul 30, 2017 9:04:47 GMT -8
Thank you Flugel Horn. Do any BC yards currently have the capability and the capacity to build a Coastal class ship? My recollection of the S-class construction was that the work was split between three separate contractors.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 30, 2017 11:36:57 GMT -8
Thank you Flugel Horn. Do any BC yards currently have the capability and the capacity to build a Coastal class ship? My recollection of the S-class construction was that the work was split between three separate contractors. Easy answer to your specific question: "No" The "Currently...have the capacity" is the issue for BC Yards.
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Post by vancouverecho on Aug 9, 2017 13:39:39 GMT -8
Thank you Flugel Horn. Do any BC yards currently have the capability and the capacity to build a Coastal class ship? My recollection of the S-class construction was that the work was split between three separate contractors. Easy answer to your specific question: "No" The "Currently...have the capacity" is the issue for BC Yards. Considering the only major shipyard that can do new builds in BC is the Vancouver Seaspan yard owned by Washington Marine Group, and that yard is tied up with Federal government work for the next few decades, I doubt any of the yards will bid for BC Ferries contracts, unless the vessel just happens to be small enough to fit in the smaller yard's docks. The largest drydocks and graving yards still active from my memory in BC are operated by Seaspan in both North Vancouver, and in Victoria, but the Victoria yard focuses more on repair work and overhauls. So no, not even a consortium of yards could do the work, not unless they build a brand new yard to do it in.
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Post by Neil on Aug 9, 2017 20:21:02 GMT -8
Easy answer to your specific question: "No" The "Currently...have the capacity" is the issue for BC Yards. Considering the only major shipyard that can do new builds in BC is the Vancouver Seaspan yard owned by Washington Marine Group, and that yard is tied up with Federal government work for the next few decades, I doubt any of the yards will bid for BC Ferries contracts, unless the vessel just happens to be small enough to fit in the smaller yard's docks. The largest drydocks and graving yards still active from my memory in BC are operated by Seaspan in both North Vancouver, and in Victoria, but the Victoria yard focuses more on repair work and overhauls. So no, not even a consortium of yards could do the work, not unless they build a brand new yard to do it in. Thing is, though... I can't keep it sorted as to what federal contracts are actually going ahead, and which are mired in myriad issues or not even actual contracts... so I'm not clear on how busy WMG actually will be with building federal vessels.
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Post by vancouverecho on Aug 10, 2017 0:35:46 GMT -8
Considering the only major shipyard that can do new builds in BC is the Vancouver Seaspan yard owned by Washington Marine Group, and that yard is tied up with Federal government work for the next few decades, I doubt any of the yards will bid for BC Ferries contracts, unless the vessel just happens to be small enough to fit in the smaller yard's docks. The largest drydocks and graving yards still active from my memory in BC are operated by Seaspan in both North Vancouver, and in Victoria, but the Victoria yard focuses more on repair work and overhauls. So no, not even a consortium of yards could do the work, not unless they build a brand new yard to do it in. Thing is, though... I can't keep it sorted as to what federal contracts are actually going ahead, and which are mired in myriad issues or not even actual contracts... so I'm not clear on how busy WMG actually will be with building federal vessels. Right now, Seaspan is tied up with the Coast Guard's Offshore Fisheries Science Vessels, and they should start cutting steel for the Queenston-class supply ships for the RCN this year. Those alone will keep Seaspan busy until 2022. Preconstruction engineering has already started on the Diefenbaker. That's what I'm aware of in terms of confirmed contracts.
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Post by Neil on May 21, 2018 13:21:33 GMT -8
On the BC Ferries FAC pages, there is now a timeline for much of the fleet renewal. Seven major vessels, another Salish for route five, a couple of 100 class vessels, and the 44s, which now seem to be 47s. I was shocked to see that Hornby is now not scheduled to get a new vessel for twelve years.
On the individual FAC page, click on 'presentations and reports', and then 'spring 2018'. Not all 13 FAC pages have them.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 27, 2018 11:17:47 GMT -8
I'm having trouble finding the page on BC Ferries' website. Can you post a link please?
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Post by Dane on May 27, 2018 12:14:13 GMT -8
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