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Post by trainguru on May 9, 2018 1:50:22 GMT -8
I recently came across Two Vessel Proposals. One for Alaska Trainship (in the July 1971 Trains Magazine article "Integration of the North" about Rail-Marine Ops to the Northern-Most Reaches of the Continent), and in the Chung Online Collection of the UBC Archives. If anybody can fill in the blanks, I'd be most grateful. All That I can find from the "Trains" article, is that it was to carry 108 Railcars- on Two (2) Decks, and nothing else. The Link, is about the Canadian Pacific's proposed ship.
10,000 GRT Ferry for Canadian Pacific Ry.
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Post by Neil on May 9, 2018 9:57:38 GMT -8
I recently came across Two Vessel Proposals. One for Alaska Trainship (in the July 1971 Trains Magazine article "Integration of the North" about Rail-Marine Ops to the Northern-Most Reaches of the Continent), and in the Chung Online Collection of the UBC Archives. If anybody can fill in the blanks, I'd be most grateful. All That I can find from the "Trains" article, is that it was to carry 108 Railcars- on Two (2) Decks, and nothing else. The Link, is about the Canadian Pacific's proposed ship.
10,000 GRT Ferry for Canadian Pacific Ry.
I'm not sure what blanks you're wanting filled in, but in regard to the CP story, clearly, they never went ahead with it. One of the purported reasons given for the province getting into the ferry business was that they were told by CP and Black Ball in 1958 that they were not prepared to upgrade vessels and infrastructure to the extent the province felt necessary. I guess the decision not to go ahead with the vessel proposed in this article was part of that. Don't know anything about the Alaska story.
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Post by princessofvanfan on May 10, 2018 0:03:42 GMT -8
Perhaps Carrier Princess was the eventual realization of this proposed new ship, with a much reduced passenger capacity.
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Post by trainguru on May 10, 2018 19:48:34 GMT -8
I'm not sure what blanks you're wanting filled in, but in regard to the CP story, clearly, they never went ahead with it. One of the purported reasons given for the province getting into the ferry business was that they were told by CP and Black Ball in 1958 that they were not prepared to upgrade vessels and infrastructure to the extent the province felt necessary. I guess the decision not to go ahead with the vessel proposed in this article was part of that. Don't know anything about the Alaska story. Anything that could be kicking around in an Archive Somewhere, of specs, or renderings; anything that gives us an idea of the Ship's Specs. That's what I'm after.
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Post by Ferryman on May 10, 2018 21:13:06 GMT -8
The Seaspan Doris comes to mind, which was the Doris Yorke once upon a time.
The Doris did have a second deck for both railcars and drop-trailers, with the second deck accessed by way of an elevator of sorts. Was near to watch back in the day.
She was just recently sent for scrapping in Ensenada, Mexico
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Post by Neil on May 10, 2018 22:13:38 GMT -8
Perhaps Carrier Princess was the eventual realization of this proposed new ship, with a much reduced passenger capacity. I don't think the Carrier Princess had anything to do with the story posted. It's pretty clear, looking back, that CP completely gave up on the idea they had put forward in 1958, and that the Carrier was part of a totally new vision for a freight oriented service, with a bit of passenger gravy added. Chances are the vessel in the '58 story wouldn't be represented in any actual plans to be found now.
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