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Post by Geoff on Feb 27, 2020 20:25:13 GMT -8
Ok so this probably would never happen because of money and safety but I would love it if there was something similar to the Transit Museum Society (Trams) but instead it was preserving vintage Ferries, Specifically BC Ferries. I am not sure what vessels they would preserve but I some of the vessels that I would hope that they would preserve would be the Queen of Burnaby, Queen of New Westminster and North Island Princess. Like I said there is a 99% chance that this will never happen but I am wondering what your thoughts are?
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Post by Mike on Feb 27, 2020 20:39:16 GMT -8
Ok so this probably would never happen because of money and safety but I would love it if there was something similar to the Transit Museum Society (Trams) but instead it was preserving vintage Ferries, Specifically BC Ferries. I am not sure what vessels they would preserve but I some of the vessels that I would hope that they would preserve would be the Queen of Burnaby, Queen of New Westminster and North Island Princess. Like I said there is a 99% chance that this will never happen but I am wondering what your thoughts are? My thoughts are: there's actually a 100% chance that this will never happen. Are you aware how much it would cost to keep them running?
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Post by pacificcat99 on Feb 27, 2020 20:41:40 GMT -8
Seems like it would be a cool idea but wondering who would fund it? It could be something like the San Fransisco Maritime Museum (with the ships they have preserved that can be toured) but it would probably require lots of maintenance as well as environmental mediation to drain any oils, fluids, as well as asbestos and other harmful chemicals) www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/historic-vessels.htmAlso wondering where it would be as you would need a large waterfront area where the ships could stay as well as something strong to anchor them to so they don't blow away and cause other problems Also the Burnaby is in pretty rough shape at the moment Would be sweet if somehow the Queen of Sidney could be saved but as I said previously it would require lots of money to fix it up and repair it
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 27, 2020 20:46:45 GMT -8
Nice idea if money did actually grow on trees ...
We did not manage to preserve even one of the CPR's BC Coast Service fleet. The prospects for preservation of any BCF vessel are equally grim.
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 27, 2020 21:19:10 GMT -8
As I was touring the historic ships at the National Maritime Museum in San Francisco last week, I pondered how cool it would be if one of our retired ferries was incorporated into a museum. Specifically, I was thinking of Evergreen State going to the Washington State History Museum in Tacoma and being moored permanently in the Thea Foss Waterway, or perhaps somewhere out of the water if possible, but of course, this would be a monumental undertaking which very few people would be willing to fund.
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Post by Neil on Feb 27, 2020 21:44:20 GMT -8
As I was touring the historic ships at the National Maritime Museum in San Francisco last week, I pondered how cool it would be if one of our retired ferries was incorporated into a museum. Specifically, I was thinking of Evergreen State going to the Washington State History Museum in Tacoma and being moored permanently in the Thea Foss Waterway, or perhaps somewhere out of the water if possible, but of course, this would be a monumental undertaking which very few people would be willing to fund. WettCoast pessimistically but accurately reflects on the possibility of such a thing happening, given our history of preserving our maritime past. Still, it's a really worthwhile idea. We have historical transit societies, with buses lovingly preserved and brought out for fan runs. Train museums as well. Washington, BC and Alaska have been so dependent on ferries for so long, who could argue against the value of preserving at least a few of the more treasured workhorses? I guess it's partly a matter of scale, and obviously, money. Restoring a forty foot trolley bus is an entirely different matter than a 300' sea going Evergreen State. I agree though. Wish it could happen. On a small scale, I'm hoping that the new owners of the Lady Rose make her restoration a reality.
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Post by dofd on Feb 27, 2020 23:51:18 GMT -8
My company looked at the Queen of Burnaby ferry for a commercial space. But the docking and upkeep was really high. (I thought about selling my home to move into the Burnaby, cheap to buy, few 100K for renovations then bleed money.) I will keep my condo.
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Post by compdude787 on Mar 6, 2020 13:13:02 GMT -8
Nice idea if money did actually grow on trees ...
We did not manage to preserve even one of the CPR's BC Coast Service fleet. The prospects for preservation of any BCF vessel are equally grim.
We didn't even manage to preserve the Kalakala, even though that's undoubtedly the most famous historical Puget Sound ferry. So, the chances of preserving any other ferry are slim to none.
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Post by vancouverecho on Mar 7, 2020 19:10:59 GMT -8
It's insanely expensive to keep and maintain a museum ship to begin with, especially if the ship remains in the water. Many ships that get retired and are turned into museums are actually struggling to maintain financial solvency; look at what's going on with the RMS Queen Mary down in Long Beach, CA, or some of the retired Navy warships that get turned over to public trusts as a museum piece.
So, unless you have consistent government financial support (such as the case with HMCS Haida), it ain't happening.
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Post by 1foot2ships on May 25, 2020 16:40:25 GMT -8
dear geofferoski: i think its a great idea. thanks for daydreaming aloud.
and dear mike, wettcoast, compdude787, neil (and others im sure): i definitely think it is better than 0% it can happen.
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Post by Charles on May 25, 2020 17:49:42 GMT -8
dear geofferoski: i think its a great idea. thanks for daydreaming aloud. and dear mike, wettcoast, compdude787, neil (and others im sure): i definitely think it is better than 0% it can happen. The thing is that to upkeep the vessels would cost an astronomical amount, and all of BCFerries decommissioned vessels, (That I know about I could be wrong), have either been scrapped or sold for future use and I don’t believe the Sidney would count as “preserved“. It would be quite amazing to have one but in reality, who has the capital to actually make this a reality who actually would follow through with it? It’s not that the idea is impossible it’s just highly improbable.
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Post by Neil on May 25, 2020 21:47:59 GMT -8
dear geofferoski: i think its a great idea. thanks for daydreaming aloud. and dear mike, wettcoast, compdude787, neil (and others im sure): i definitely think it is better than 0% it can happen. Feel free to invest your nest egg.
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Post by Mike on May 25, 2020 23:08:15 GMT -8
dear mike, wettcoast, compdude787, neil (and others im sure): i definitely think it is better than 0% it can happen. Prove me wrong then.
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Post by Starsteward on May 25, 2020 23:22:54 GMT -8
dear geofferoski: i think its a great idea. thanks for daydreaming aloud. and dear mike, wettcoast, compdude787, neil (and others im sure): i definitely think it is better than 0% it can happen. The thing is that to upkeep the vessels would cost an astronomical amount, and all of BCFerries decommissioned vessels, (That I know about I could be wrong), have either been scrapped or sold for future use and I don’t believe the Sidney would count as “preserved“. It would be quite amazing to have one but in reality, who has the capital to actually make this a reality who actually would follow through with it? It’s not that the idea is impossible it’s just highly improbable. When the world and our society was in 'normal operational' mode, there "may" have been some(one) with some extra cash to invest in a maritime museum of former BCFS vessels or others. I doubt that the manner in which our National and Provincial/State treasuries have been raided to combat the devastation being rendered by COVID-19, the possibility of attracting ANY government backing has been blown to smithereens! Unless, as an active, sitting politician you are tiring of your job, have at it.
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Post by chinook2 on Jun 6, 2020 17:13:47 GMT -8
How about..... preserving and repuurposing the SUPERSTRUCTURE of say, the new west??
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Post by Charles on Jun 6, 2020 20:31:07 GMT -8
How about..... preserving and repuurposing the SUPERSTRUCTURE of say, the new west?? Please elaborate that sounds like an interesting idea!
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Post by Starsteward on Jun 7, 2020 9:41:11 GMT -8
How about..... preserving and repuurposing the SUPERSTRUCTURE of say, the new west?? Avery interesting idea
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Post by cbachmeier on Dec 21, 2020 0:16:15 GMT -8
How about..... preserving and repuurposing the SUPERSTRUCTURE of say, the new west?? That is a dream, but the most awesome dream I have ever heard of, I was thinking something similar, after all the New West has gotten a lot more refit attention unlike its predecessors like the MV Queen of Burnaby or MV Queen of Victoria. I am been interested in keeping these historical vessels away from the cutting torches. I would name a museum "dogwood museum", or the refit yard where these vessels would be repaired I would name that "dogwood facility".
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