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Post by Balfour on Oct 30, 2009 8:28:32 GMT -8
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Post by whidbeyislandguy on Oct 31, 2009 2:45:39 GMT -8
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - Washington has a new name for a very old waterway. The inland waters including the Puget Sound, the Strait of Juan de Fuca and the Strait of George will now be known together as the Salish Sea.
The new named approved Friday by the Washington State Board of Geographic Names does not replace any of the longstanding identifiers. Instead, it gives a label to something that has not had one.
The name has also been approved by the board's Canadian counterpart.
A retired professor of marine ecology at Western Washington University proposed the new name. Bert Webber hopes it will promote public awareness of the common problems of the inland waters and the need for cross-border solutions.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Nov 3, 2009 9:44:07 GMT -8
Not specifically an article about BC Ferries but rather a bit on Horseshoe Bay with nice ferry pics, is found in the latest Beautiful BC mag. It is part of an article on the Sea to Sky.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 13, 2009 15:40:33 GMT -8
Link to News 1130 article here. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 14, 2009 18:36:48 GMT -8
Post moved by moderator to existing thread. I could swear this had been discussed in the past, but after skimming through the archives briefly couldn't find an appropriate thread - and realized that if there was one it's probably buried quite deep - so decided on creating this thread regarding the legal acknowledgement happening now of the Salish Sea, including, among other surrounding areas, the Strait of Georgia, Juan de Fuca Strait and Puget Sound. The U.S. has now officially recognized it is on the docket in our legislature... (From: www.timescolonist.com/news/Salish/2222401/story.html ) |
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 14, 2009 18:42:33 GMT -8
"General news articles on BC Ferries"?
Just curious, not criticizing.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 14, 2009 18:58:56 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 14, 2009 21:45:27 GMT -8
"General news articles on BC Ferries"? Just curious, not criticizing. Hey, that's where the guy who posted it first, posted it.  It would be interesting to hear others' opinions on this one. With due respect to both whidbeyislandguy who posted about Washington State's official recognition and yourself, Mr. Horn, (and I can't emphasize the implied respectful tone here enough as this could easily be misinterpreted in typed form) I wonder hypothetically if an island, for example, that BC Ferries happens to serve was renamed would a related news item be placed in this thread. Interesting discussion on that other forum that you linked to, btw. Cheers. |
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Post by Neil on Nov 14, 2009 23:01:40 GMT -8
This is one of my pet peeves. (No, not posts in inappropriate threads- like this one...)
We're always really, really good at naming things for first nations people, or appropriating their symbols to give some of our institutions a sort of heritage feel.
We've got an Olympic inukshuk. But the Inuit people who were basically deported from their Quebec homeland back in the '50s and sent to a hellhole on Ellesmere Island with poor hunting and absolutely no support, all because white Canadians wanted to assert our sovereignty over the Arctic- those people and their descendants never got an apology, still don't have a decent community infrastructure, and live, for the most part in abject poverty. Would have been nice if, to go along with all the smarmy sentimentality of the torch parade and the adoption of one of their cultural symbols, some acknowledgment was made- you know- as part of a true Olympic spirit of brotherhood and all that.
But we've never been very good at anything more than gestures to aboriginal people. Naming schools, and ferries, and sports teams. I remember watching an Atlanta Braves baseball game, and seeing owner Ted Turner, and his wife Jane Fonda, doing the 'tomahawk chop'. That's the kind of nod we feel comfortable giving to native issues.
Now we'll be calling it the Salish Sea, but it would be interesting to see a map of the whole area, with all the coastal native lands marked out. You'd need a magnifying glass to make out all their boundaries. I guess the name's enough.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 0:10:55 GMT -8
RE Salish Sea:
Keep in mind that nothing is being re-named. The names of Puget Sound, Juan de Fuca Strait, Georgia Strait, Johnstone Strait, Howe Sound, Admiralty Inlet, etc are unchanged.
All that's happening is that a name is now being applied to the overall region's water-body.
I think that almost all references will still be to the specific names, because Puget Sound is different from Georgia Strait (for example).
I don't expect that any ferry-route descriptions will be impacted by the new name "Salish Sea" at all. Routes are specific and routes need to use the specific names of specific parts of the Salish Sea.
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ps: the best search-function that we have on this forum is at the Top of the page, just under the flagship-banner. Type in the word "Salish" and you'll find the posts from the past 10 days that were originally posted.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 15, 2009 0:22:05 GMT -8
This is one of my pet peeves. (No, not posts in inappropriate threads- like this one...) We're always really, really good at naming things for first nations people, or appropriating their symbols to give some of our institutions a sort of heritage feel. We've got an Olympic inukshuk. But the Inuit people who were basically deported from their Quebec homeland back in the '50s and sent to a hellhole on Ellesmere Island with poor hunting and absolutely no support, all because white Canadians wanted to assert our sovereignty over the Arctic- those people and their descendants never got an apology, still don't have a decent community infrastructure, and live, for the most part in abject poverty. Would have been nice if, to go along with all the smarmy sentimentality of the torch parade and the adoption of one of their cultural symbols, some acknowledgment was made- you know- as part of a true Olympic spirit of brotherhood and all that. But we've never been very good at anything more than gestures to aboriginal people. Naming schools, and ferries, and sports teams. I remember watching an Atlanta Braves baseball game, and seeing owner Ted Turner, and his wife Jane Fonda, doing the 'tomahawk chop'. That's the kind of nod we feel comfortable giving to native issues. Now we'll be calling it the Salish Sea, but it would be interesting to see a map of the whole area, with all the coastal native lands marked out. You'd need a magnifying glass to make out all their boundaries. I guess the name's enough. hear hear ps: the best search-function that we have on this forum is at the Top of the page, just under the flagship-banner. Type in the word "Salish" and you'll find the posts from the past 10 days that were originally posted. Ah, 10 days, no wonder whidbeyislandguy's October 31st post didn't come up when I searched before posting in the Forward Lounge, I'll keep that in mind, though I should already have read the recent posts in this thread in the first place really. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 24, 2009 10:45:02 GMT -8
Thread Herding Alert:
You'll notice that we're discussing the NorAd rough-ride story in the specific Nor Ad thread, on the general BC Ferries page of this forum.
I've moved a few posts from this morning from this thread, to the NorAd thread (where discussion started yesterday afternoon re this story).
See you over there....
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Post by Scott on Nov 24, 2009 18:10:23 GMT -8
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Post by Northern Exploration on Nov 26, 2009 9:04:26 GMT -8
The story has reached the national press. Covered in a couple of the eastern versions of the national papers.
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 27, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -8
Video footage of the rescue. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2009 23:33:02 GMT -8
re the Q-Burnaby jumper-rescue video: It was both interesting and unsettling to watch. Interesting to see a rescue boat in action, and the hook-up and lifting by the crane. Unsettling to see the close-up of the human who was rescued. Unsettling in that I felt like I was invading his privacy by watching that video. Hear the comment at 1:22 of the video. Then again, if he was jumping on purpose, he chose a public place to do it, and so pictures are fair-game. Then again, if he did jump on purpose, he likely wasn't thinking straight. It was a pretty sad thing to see. Hopefully he gets the help that he needs. Then again, he did endanger the lives of the crew who rescued him. So does that negate his right to privacy? Does that make him a victim or a menace? Conclusion: I think that the last minute of the video is an amazing account of someone being given a second-chance at life. The ferry-workers' risked their lives to give someone a second-chance at living his own life, in spite of that person's disregard for human life (his own, and others). ---------------------- If you want to see who shot this video and uploaded it to Youtube (and to read any viewer comments), see the below link: www.youtube.com/user/MarkandJanna#p/a/u/0/FH7HfyXQDsA |
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Post by Neil on Nov 28, 2009 0:03:39 GMT -8
Unsettling to see the close-up of the human who was rescued. Unsettling in that I felt like I was invading his privacy by watching that video. Hear the comment at 1:22 of the video.Then again, if he was jumping on purpose, he chose a public place to do it, and so pictures are fair-game. Then again, if he did jump on purpose, he likely wasn't thinking straight. It was a pretty sad thing to see. Hopefully he gets the help that he needs. Then again, he did endanger the lives of the crew who rescued him. So does that negate his right to privacy? Does that make him a victim or a menace? I chose not to watch the video, for the same concerns that you raised. This fellow may have mental health issues that make him both victim and menace, but in the end, blameless. People who are blessed with stable mental health and balanced personalities can't conceive of the kind of turmoil that could cause someone to deal with their demons in such an inconvenient and public way. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2009 9:47:45 GMT -8
People who are blessed with stable mental health and balanced personalities can't conceive of the kind of turmoil that could cause someone to deal with their demons in such an inconvenient and public way. I've met enough people with mental health or personality struggles, or their family members, to understand a bit of their plight. I've also got a healthy allotment of empathy, so that's why I'm glad that the man-overboard got a second chance at life. I spent some time this morning Googling on the phrase "suicide & inconvenience". I found lots of ranting from people stuck in traffic-jams on bridges. I also found some balance and some empathy. Here's an example: www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/399/aft/8516/afv/Topic/Default.aspx |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 28, 2009 13:08:56 GMT -8
Here's the A-Channel News story for the incident:
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 28, 2009 13:19:03 GMT -8
Hear the comment at 1:22 of the video. what is he saying? It sounds something like "Hey bro, I don't think we should video this". Am I right? He mumbling, so it's hard to hear it. LATE EDIT: No, wait, its more like, Dude, we probably shouldn't video this... |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2009 13:25:21 GMT -8
Hear the comment at 1:22 of the video. what is he saying? It sounds something like "Hey bro, I don't think we should video this". Am I right? He mumbling, so it's hard to hear it. I heard: "Inappropriate (to) video this", spoken really quickly. |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 28, 2009 14:11:12 GMT -8
At 1:22, I am hearing "I'm getting perfect video of this".
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 28, 2009 14:58:53 GMT -8
At 1:22, I am hearing "I'm getting perfect video of this". Actually, yeah, you're right. Maybe we should ask him, though, just to be sure? |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2009 16:41:00 GMT -8
At 1:22, I am hearing "I'm getting perfect video of this". At 14:56 I'm thinking "BC Ferries.. please start another new ferry project so the Forum an have a go at watching the next project. The so-called couch psychologists in this forum are going nuts because of the wet weather.." As someone who's posted on this topic twice, I can take your comment as being aimed at me. I'm not going nuts. I'm having a fine time thinking and discussing. There's no need for you to make your comment, it hasn't really added to the discussion on the topic. I don't really need another new ferry project to watch. I actually find those new build pictures and voyages a bit boring to follow. I like people and people's experiences in life, including ferry related items. Humanity is what it's all about for me. People are incredibly interesting to observe, and if you add ships and ocean and travel, you get some great opportunities to observe humanity. |
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Post by Northern Exploration on Nov 29, 2009 7:16:50 GMT -8
At 14:56 I'm thinking "BC Ferries.. please start another new ferry project so the Forum an have a go at watching the next project. The so-called couch psychologists in this forum are going nuts because of the wet weather.." I don't really need another new ferry project to watch. I actually find those new build pictures and voyages a bit boring to follow. I like people and people's experiences in life, including ferry related items. Humanity is what it's all about for me. People are incredibly interesting to observe, and if you add ships and ocean and travel, you get some great opportunities to observe humanity. A ferry without people is just a cargo ship of empty cars.  So your people perusal, perception and pondering is perfect. |
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So your people perusal, perception and pondering is perfect.