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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 17:43:06 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 24, 2015 8:01:54 GMT -8
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Apr 24, 2015 21:45:38 GMT -8
Mr. Corrigan certainly does have a point... By typing "BC Ferries" into Google, it only takes a few clicks to stumble upon the multitude of "fares are too high" stories from the media, opinion pieces that are more make-believe than fact, and/or nonsensical ranting from people who like to think they were born into this world blessed with the secrets of operating a ferry system. If I was a tourist researching marine travel in BC, I would likely have conflicting thoughts about travelling aboard BC Ferries.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 24, 2015 22:16:11 GMT -8
Scott, I tried the "BC Ferries" Google search & found that I had to go all the way to the bottom of page two before finding negative comment about the fares. So I am not seeing what you say you are seeing and must disagree with your comment.
To me Mr Corrigan is whining. If there is a villain in this piece it is not his customers. The real villain is the BC Government which refuses to adequately fund the coastal ferry system.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Apr 24, 2015 22:48:10 GMT -8
Scott, I tried the "BC Ferries" Google search & found that I had to go all the way to the bottom of page two before finding negative comment about the fares. So I am not seeing what you say you are seeing and must disagree with your comment. To me Mr Corrigan is whining. If there is a villain in this piece it is not his customers. The real villain is the BC Government which refuses to adequately fund the coastal ferry system. What's to disagree with, Jim? As I said, "it only takes a few clicks"...
- One click to access page two of the search results to begin the start of media stories...
- One click on the "News" tab to bring up story after story. Like most articles on a media site, once clicked, a number of those provide additional "related articles" on BC Ferries.
As for what Mr. Corrigan said, it's true. The first four stories (...not search results) are about ferry fares and service reductions.
Thankfully this forum comes before those "stories" on the search, so there's hope they'd click on us as we kind of live and breath all things BC Ferries!
Everything said and done, I wholeheartedly agree the real villain is the BC Government.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 25, 2015 9:31:43 GMT -8
So this story has now been picked up by The Province newspaper: www.theprovince.com/Complaining+about+high+fares+will+only+make+things+worse+says+head+Ferries/11001941/story.htmlQuote from the comments section ** So why do I quote this? Because the commenter is essentially correct. Surely a well remunerated CEO of a large corporation like BC Ferries would know full well that making comments as he has done would only add more fuel to the fire. So by complaining about the complainers Mr. Corrigan has managed to get the first negative story re BC Ferries (this Province article) to appear on page 1 of a Google search on the term "BC Ferries". Well done!
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Post by Dane on Apr 25, 2015 11:17:08 GMT -8
I think the BC Ferries "brass" often get a lot of heat for what they do not deserve - people complain about BCFS about BC Government policy issues. In this case, however, I think the CEO is totally off the mark. Like Scott I can appreciate the substance of what he is trying to communicate, he is simply poking the hornets nest in this case. I suspect there is some regret over this one.
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Post by Neil on Apr 25, 2015 22:31:53 GMT -8
I have to wonder who exactly Mike Corrigan is targeting. Is it businesspeople in coastal communities, who've seen their viability affected by fare increases and service cuts? Is it seniors and other people on fixed incomes who've found it increasingly difficult to travel into town for shopping, medical appointments, or other essential appointments? As I've found, there are hospitals and medical professionals who can't schedule appointments based on BC Ferries' cost cutting requirements. This is not a minor consideration, when you live in a ferry dependent community.
Maybe Corrigan is targeting the media. Recalcitrants like Stephen Hume, who have documented the financial folly of 'saving' money on route schedules, while strangling local economies. I don't know. Maybe Corrigan just doesn't like criticism. To cut him some slack, he has indeed had to bear a fair bit of hostility that should have been aimed at Stone, Clark, and Co. Still, he has demonstrated that he is utterly tone deaf, and he is dead wrong.
On the positive side: we may have bottomed out on the decline in ferry traffic. Fare increases and service cuts may have wreaked their maximum damage. February traffic to Hornby rebounded significantly from last year, with March coming in less so, but still to the good. Hopefully, the inherent value of these communities will survive the idiotic Liberal ferry policies, and Corrigan, Clark and friends will be able to crow... 'see? we were on the right track all along.'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 9:11:23 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Apr 30, 2015 19:27:18 GMT -8
Not directly BC Ferries, but it looks like Bowen Island - Vancouver bus service will continue for a trial period even after the return of the 'Cap. The service was started as a result of the long-term replacement vessel (Bowen Queen) which, compared to the post-MLU capacity of the 'Cap carried 30 less AEQ. From the Bowen Island Undercurrent: www.bowenislandundercurrent.com/news/through-bus-service-to-be-extended-until-end-of-june-1.1870424Text: On May 5, a revamped Queen of Capilano will be back in action between Horseshoe Bay and Snug Cove, with room for 15 extra cars on deck. Councillor Melanie Mason is hoping that those extra spots won’t actually be necessary, as efforts to reduce travel by car as well as the Bowen Island Municipal Transportation Advisory Committee (BIMTAC) works on bringing on more options for alternative modes of transportation. “In January of 2015, we saw roughly 33 fewer cars getting on the ferry every day in comparison to January 2014. Also, we saw 2,000 extra foot passengers this January, which translates to roughly 93 extra foot passengers per-day as compared to January 2014,” says Mason. “The focus of my work when it comes to transportation is to make the transportation alternatives easier for commuters than taking the car would be.” At council this week, Municipal Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) Kathy Lalonde said that meetings with TransLink yielded positive results for at least the temporary continuation of the express bus that takes commuters downtown and back. TransLink agreed to temporarily transfer the Independent Transit Service (ITS) agreement to the Peter King, who runs the service, until the end of June. For the bus service to continue, either Peter King or the municipality will need to apply to the board of TransLink for a permanent ITS transfer. BC Ferries also agreed to offer the bus the Experience Card rate for it’s journey back to Snug Cove on the 6:30 p.m ferry. This will bring the cost of the trip down by approximately $50. Councillor Mason says that while ridership on the bus still needs to increase by roughly 20 people per day, she is hoping that the consistency, flexibility and reliability of the service will help bring those numbers up. Mason says that thanks to John Reid, half of the Rennison parking lot will continue to offer commuters free parking for the da and that helping to create a reliable and sustainable water taxi service for Bowen will be next-up on BIMTAC’s agenda. There are plans, she says, to create a water taxi action group with councillor Michael Kaile acting as the liason.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 12:18:50 GMT -8
Apparently it won't...
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Post by Dane on May 4, 2015 19:09:44 GMT -8
The bus service is going to continue operation. That is a mis-leading news release. BCFS will not be funding it anymore, is more accurate wording.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 11:12:40 GMT -8
Cable ferry is indeed the Baynes Sound Connector. News release to follow apparently.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 11:16:38 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 2, 2015 12:13:17 GMT -8
BC Ferries are full and shipments aren't getting to the coast
Have a listen to this: audioboom.com/boos/3243692-bc-ferries-are-full-and-shipments-aren-t-getting-to-the-coastI see that the photo used on that linked site is one of mine, taken in October 2012. If you look hard you just might see the old dogwood house flag is visible... Keep these points in mind: 1 - Demand ramps up in the spring, well before June 18th which is when Todd Stoned & BCFS now define as the end of winter. 2 - Just as demand ramps auto capacity is decreased by 22% due to BCFS's timing of the the Northern Expedition's annual refit. Auto capacity of the Northern Adventure is 101 versus 130 on the NorEx. I am also fairly sure that the NorEx can handle a better mix of vehicle traffic (over height, over length, over width) due to its much superior car deck layout, and having vehicle access at both ends. 3 - The current schedule of 2 trips per week to Haida Gwaii & just one on the Inside Passage means that the vessel is sitting idle (with a crew aboard) for a total of about three days per week. 4 - The Nimpkish, as pathetic as it is, is now also out for refit, replaced by a tug & barge service for vehicles, and water taxi passengers, thus further complicating things for mid-coast residents & would-be visitors. Maybe, just maybe, if BCFS and/or the BC Govt had a clue, they would bring up the Tenaka as the 'Discovery Coast Connector' vessel for the higher demand period of spring & summer.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 26, 2015 7:26:10 GMT -8
Another sad story of entitlement assumptions: First, a few facts to understand: 1) Father's Day is a busy day 2) The Canada-Switzerland 2nd round match at FIFA 2015 was going to be a sold-out game, generating lots of regional traffic 3) Langdale ferry terminal parking lot reports its fullness % on the BCFS website. HERE4) BC Ferries cannot be expected to, in the space of a couple hours, acquire land, engineer a parking lot, clear land and get a lot ready for use. 5) People are expected to use personal responsibility to arrange and run their lives. When they choose to travel on a very busy day, and not leave extra time for unexpected things (such as full parking, which they could have determined by looking at a website), then those people accept a risk. 6) Kindergarten teaches people important life-skills. Now that this is all understood, here's a letter from a Sunshine Coast adult:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:59:59 GMT -8
Mr. Horn, first of all, thank you for taking the time to sort through the crap. In general I have stopped reading the letters section of the coast paper a long time ago... I am, however, frequently amused by the titles of the letters, and the misinformation.
Also, I'm quite surprised someone from "out of town" reads the local gossip, haha.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 26, 2015 16:41:31 GMT -8
Mr. Horn, first of all, thank you for taking the time to sort through the crap. In general I have stopped reading the letters section of the coast paper a long time ago... I am, however, frequently amused by the titles of the letters, and the misinformation. Also, I'm quite surprised someone from "out of town" reads the local gossip, haha. I subscribe to Google news alerts, which gives me a daily email of world-wide news stories that have the word "ferries" in them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 1:48:32 GMT -8
Here's an article that shines a light on BC Ferries-Ministry of Transportation relations:
BC Ferries accused of hiding email to Transport Minister Todd Stone The B.C. NDP want the privacy commissioner to investigate what it says is a skirting of the rules.
"An email sent by BC Ferries CEO Mike Corrigan to Transportation Minister Todd Stone has become a political hot potato after the Opposition NDP accused the ferry service of trying to hide the embarrassing exchange.
The B.C. NDP filed a freedom of information request for any emails between Corrigan and Stone sent between January 1 and March 31 this year, receiving a "no records" response.
At the time, Corrigan told CBC Radio 1 that his exchanges with the minister were always by phone or face-to-face.
But the subsequent emergence of an email from the CEO to Stone produced from the same request to the Ministry of Transportation suggests otherwise, the NDP said today.
In the February email, Corrigan told Stone that his comments on a BC Ferries policy were, "not helpful or productive," and that the minister should "take this into consideration when commenting" in the future.
"This newly-released email from that same time period shows that Mr. Corrigan's comments weren't exactly true, and that BC Ferries skirted British Columbia's freedom of information laws," the NDP's Doug Routley said in a statement Thursday.
"The B.C. Liberals are already tied up in a controversy around deleted emails and skirting information laws. Now it seems publicly owned agencies are doing the same."
Routley has written to the Privacy Officer, Elizabeth Denham, to ask her to include this example in her ongoing investigation sparked by the furor over the alleged deleting of emails related to the stretch of B.C. road known as the Highway of Tears."
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-ferries-accused-of-hiding-email-to-transport-minister-todd-stone-1.3165685
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 24, 2015 7:32:09 GMT -8
Here's an article that shines a light on BC Ferries-Ministry of Transportation relations: I think there are 2 issues here: 1) the FOI issue, which the NDP is trumpeting 2) the testy relationship between Minister Stone and CEO Corrigan. I take this example as a case of push-back where Corrigan is clearly telling Stone to mind his own business. At the moment, I'm more interested in issue #2.
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Post by Starsteward on Jul 24, 2015 7:56:18 GMT -8
Here's an article that shines a light on BC Ferries-Ministry of Transportation relations:
BC Ferries accused of hiding email to Transport Minister Todd Stone The B.C. NDP want the privacy commissioner to investigate what it says is a skirting of the rules.
"An email sent by BC Ferries CEO Mike Corrigan to Transportation Minister Todd Stone has become a political hot potato after the Opposition NDP accused the ferry service of trying to hide the embarrassing exchange.
The B.C. NDP filed a freedom of information request for any emails between Corrigan and Stone sent between January 1 and March 31 this year, receiving a "no records" response.
At the time, Corrigan told CBC Radio 1 that his exchanges with the minister were always by phone or face-to-face.
But the subsequent emergence of an email from the CEO to Stone produced from the same request to the Ministry of Transportation suggests otherwise, the NDP said today.
In the February email, Corrigan told Stone that his comments on a BC Ferries policy were, "not helpful or productive," and that the minister should "take this into consideration when commenting" in the future.
"This newly-released email from that same time period shows that Mr. Corrigan's comments weren't exactly true, and that BC Ferries skirted British Columbia's freedom of information laws," the NDP's Doug Routley said in a statement Thursday.
"The B.C. Liberals are already tied up in a controversy around deleted emails and skirting information laws. Now it seems publicly owned agencies are doing the same."
Routley has written to the Privacy Officer, Elizabeth Denham, to ask her to include this example in her ongoing investigation sparked by the furor over the alleged deleting of emails related to the stretch of B.C. road known as the Highway of Tears."
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-ferries-accused-of-hiding-email-to-transport-minister-todd-stone-1.3165685
Good work Deck Cadet for bringing forth this little gem. Sadly this news item is but another sad example of what happens when governments and corporate entities believe that they are entitled to conduct and communicate "the peoples' affairs" in ultra-spin mode. The truth be dammed, just keep a finger on that 'spin cycle' knob and maybe, just maybe the great unwashed will begin to believe that 'spin' is the new normal. But, on the brighter side of things, this little episode of 'whose got whose mail' pales in comparison with the 'spin' this present provincial administration put on the case of the six health care workers who were allegedly fired....or? Within the purview of the new inquiry into the health care mess, some folks are going to be very hard pressed to put 'spin' on their involvement(s) when the 's' in 'splainin' is removed, all the while trying to stand upright on one of those darn mounds of hidden 'spin' under their feet.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 7, 2015 15:13:04 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 8, 2015 6:50:52 GMT -8
Hopefully, company policy allows an employee to use discretion when and where an employee is faced with 'emergency' requests such as this situation. There are sadly some folks who will use an 'excuse' of any nature to get to the head of the line as it were, however I've always believed that there is someone "taking notes" of folks of that ilk and place an 'X' in the payback column next to their names'. Hopefully our human relationships can avoid the pitfalls of cynicism, but rather whenever one is faced with making a critical decision, a "voice" should tell one: ' Do unto others.......'
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Post by Dane on Sept 18, 2015 9:14:59 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Sept 18, 2015 9:18:05 GMT -8
Here's the text from the service notice:
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