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Post by Curtis on Aug 18, 2005 16:06:50 GMT -8
Just today I was down at the BCF Info Centre in the Mall here in PR. It was open from mid June and early July looking for suggestions on what to do About route 17 (Powell R.-Comox) and 18(Powell R.-Texada Isle.) and it closed down for a month and opened again for these last few days with some of the suggestions such as running one 185 car vessel doing a triangle route between Powell River Comox and Texada thats a bad idea this way the people of Texada only have 4 sailings a day another option is running two 85 car vessels doing the said triangle route the other way is just the original way of doing things now with new vessels they're close it down this evening so what do you guys/girls think of this and what should they do?
Personally I think they should build 2 vessels based out of Powell River and Comox one bigger than the other. the larger one based out of Comox and the smaller based out of Powell River the big one doing the PR-Comox Run Non stop and the smaller one doing the triangle run.(slightly more round trips to Powell River)
So Post Suggestions and other stuff related to this here
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 18, 2005 16:29:24 GMT -8
I think they should just keep it the way it is right now, with Comox to PR, then PR to Blubber Bay, but offer transfer tickets at the terminals, so you don't have to pay again when you are at PR.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Aug 18, 2005 16:53:54 GMT -8
yeah I agree with Quinsam, keep it the way it is now and offer transfers! As far as the ships on the routes go! I dont know how the traffic is up there and if they need bigger ships so I cant say!
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Post by Curtis on Aug 18, 2005 16:59:06 GMT -8
I agree
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Post by Doug on Aug 18, 2005 17:20:58 GMT -8
BC Ferries could buy one of the Pacificats to run both routes....
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Post by Curtis on Aug 18, 2005 20:20:15 GMT -8
One Ferry doing 4 sailings a day isn't enough for Texada plus it would cost too much
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Post by YZFNick on Aug 18, 2005 20:31:03 GMT -8
I've said this before. Comox to PR can be the pasture for old V-classes. As they get replaced down south by new ships, they can cross the Georgia Straight until they stop working. Ignoring the top deck (people can play hockey up there if they want), the capacities on the V's are around 190 cars. No need to build new vessels for 20 years directly for the PR route.
Once a V-class outlives it's usefullness, it can be sunk to add to the PR artificial reef.
Texada gets the NIP until it's a pile of rust, then they get the Mayne Queen and her sisters until there are enough sunken ships outside Powell River to make a causeway to Texada. On second though, if you string 8 V-classes together, would it reach Texada as a floating bridge?
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Post by Curtis on Aug 18, 2005 20:45:49 GMT -8
You said the same thing about Saltery Bay-Earls Cove for the V Class retirement grounds I bet they could make a floating bridge to Quadra useing 3 V Classes
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Post by YZFNick on Aug 18, 2005 21:09:53 GMT -8
We checked, you need 3 V-classes but you also need the AJ Savoie at high tide.
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Post by Curtis on Aug 18, 2005 21:15:34 GMT -8
Okay 2 V classes and the (according to sources) longer Queen of Victoria
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Post by hergfest on Aug 20, 2005 2:26:55 GMT -8
I don't think the triangle route would provide enough service to Texada.
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Post by NMcKay on Aug 20, 2005 8:22:33 GMT -8
I think if they were to enclose the top deck (or remove it all together) and then either add that worth of passenger accomedations, then run her with new engines, i think the v class could last a long time. maybe even closer her bow and make her load and offload like the ships in Europe.
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 20, 2005 11:21:03 GMT -8
The Burnaby and Saanich can do PR to Texada, then the Vancouver and Esquimalt can do the PR to Comox Sailings, the Nanaimo...
THINK!!!
...she can be used as an extra vessel, or relief for all major routes, like the Esquimalt currently is.
That is when the v's and b's are replaced by the Super C's
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Post by NMcKay on Aug 20, 2005 11:53:49 GMT -8
dont they have a Single Deck V class? THat would eb a good vessel on the run. or take a Larger 2 decked vessel, and use internal ramps to make it easier to run on all routes.
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Post by Doug on Aug 20, 2005 14:20:07 GMT -8
Don't you people get it? The Burnaby as it is is too big for its route, and you want a "V" Class up there? Without the top vehicle deck it would be the exact same as the Burnaby! One vessel could handle both routes, not a "V" Class, it's too big and it would cost too much to operate. One of the Pacificats would be as big as it should get. Harry: you're saying put two "V" Class ferries on a route that doesn't have the traffic for half of one of those? Besides, the "V" Class need replacing.
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Post by Doug on Aug 20, 2005 14:25:16 GMT -8
You have to take into consideration that BCF wants to spend LESS money than they do now. The PR-Comox route breaks even right now.
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Post by Doug on Aug 20, 2005 17:34:10 GMT -8
You said the same thing about Saltery Bay-Earls Cove for the V Class retirement grounds I bet they could make a floating bridge to Quadra useing 3 V Classes 3? You mean 13? Actually it would be closer to 21 according to the calculator.... |
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Post by Curtis on Aug 20, 2005 17:40:32 GMT -8
To Quadra?!
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Post by Doug on Aug 20, 2005 17:55:31 GMT -8
Yes...2.8 km crossing....
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Post by YZFNick on Aug 20, 2005 19:51:02 GMT -8
Don't you people get it? The Burnaby as it is is too big for its route, and you want a "V" Class up there? Without the top vehicle deck it would be the exact same as the Burnaby! One vessel could handle both routes, not a "V" Class, it's too big and it would cost too much to operate. One of the Pacificats would be as big as it should get. Harry: you're saying put two "V" Class ferries on a route that doesn't have the traffic for half of one of those? Besides, the "V" Class need replacing. I'm considering those vessels on the fact that they're paid for already. It delays building a new vessel. |
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 20, 2005 21:30:40 GMT -8
ok, keep the Burnaby on her current route, then retire the Vancouver and Saanich, then keep the Esquimalt as an extra or relief vessel, then sell her 5 years later, she is the only vessel left with the 3 tone horn.
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 20, 2005 21:33:55 GMT -8
No, the Vancouver is the only V-Class left with the classic 3 tone horn, the Esquimalt and Saanich have the 2 tone and always have....
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 20, 2005 21:37:30 GMT -8
About the sailings to texada, is it the Tachek that does that route? or the Nimpkish?
Or is it both?
If so, then BCF can build another vessel like Quinsam or Quinitsa, then move it to replace them if it is necessary, the new vessel could be named the Queen of Texada, then rename the Quinsam, Queen of Gabriola, and the Quinitsa, Queen of Denman.
Or just keep it the way it is.
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Post by Doug on Aug 20, 2005 21:46:36 GMT -8
The NIP runs the route.... By saving money, I mean contracting out if necessary.... A note regarding the three-tone horn: all of the "C" Class ferries still have them.
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 20, 2005 21:47:51 GMT -8
I mean the V Class 3 tones
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