MV Hyak

[BreannaF]

Oct 11, 2010 7:26:18 GMT -8 EGfleet said:

Oct 10, 2010 11:14:05 GMT -8 @lmtengs said:

Someone get some up-to-date pictures before she get's painted!

Here you go, from a few months back. I don't imagine matters have improved any.

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At least at one time, I thought that we had a rule that there would be no pictures that showed any ferry employees that reflected them in an unflattering manner. Perhaps it is time to extend that courtesy to the boats themselves.... ;D

[lmtengs]

Oct 11, 2010 16:11:21 GMT -8 BreannaF said:

At least at one time, I thought that we had a rule that there would be no pictures that showed any ferry employees that reflected them in an unflattering manner. Perhaps it is time to extend that courtesy to the boats themselves.... ;D

REALITY, Bryan. REALITY!!! You gotta take off those old rose-tinted glasses and look at the world in a real light! We can't show people only the pretty side, because then no action will be taken to fix what's wrong! We are all promoters of ferries, and to keep them looking as good as they can be, sometimes it's worthwhile to publicize a bit of yuck so that the creators of the yuck, in this case, WSF and BCFS, can smarten up and keep their vessels cleaner!

[Barnacle]

Oct 11, 2010 16:56:11 GMT -8 @lmtengs said:

We are all promoters of ferries, and to keep them looking as good as they can be, sometimes it's worthwhile to publicize a bit of yuck so that the creators of the yuck, in this case, WSF and BCFS, can smarten up and keep their vessels cleaner!

Because two years of squawking has done a world of good thus far...

I maintain that WSF had the Hyak in the San Juans this summer to hide her from the mainline runs. After all, the old girl is currently visible from the Bainbridge boats, and that's the nasty side, too... ;D

[Low Light Mike]

Photos of Hyak at Anacortes and leaving on her San Juan route, from Oct.26, 2010:
- photos from the MV Elwha.
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Showing her clean-side, at Anacortes. Yakima is behind her.



- a cloud of smoke as she leaves.



Passing us, showing her other side....

[EGfleet]

The Hyak is down at Dakota Creek as well for her much needed painting. Fortunately they haven't wrapped her up yet for that purpose, so I was able to get some shots of her today as well.


Poking her nose out of the drydock.


Her rusty side.


Another shot of her side.


Rudder and prop. This is the most marine growth I've ever seen on a WSF ferry. The hulls do have a low-level electrical current running through them to discourage marine growth.


Close up of the propeller.

[Neil]

Sorry if I've missed something, but looking back over the last two years' posts on this thread, I don't see an explanation for the odd rust pattern on the Hyak. Unlike the Queen of Burnaby, which clearly has areas of wasted steel which leak rivulets of rusty water down the side, Hyak's rusty side looks more like an extensive area of poorly covered metal that has surface rust from salt air.

[whidbeyislandguy]

Nov 26, 2010 13:41:35 GMT -8 Neil said:

Sorry if I've missed something, but looking back over the last two years' posts on this thread, I don't see an explanation for the odd rust pattern on the Hyak. Unlike the Queen of Burnaby, which clearly has areas of wasted steel which leak rivulets of rusty water down the side, Hyak's rusty side looks more like an extensive area of poorly covered metal that has surface rust from salt air.

That's because that's just what it is...

[Kahloke]

Cool It will be nice to see Hyak emerge with a fresh coat of paint. Have there been any rumours about Hyak's MLU/Life Extension? The maintenance schedule shows her coming back into service towards the end of January, so I am assuming this drydocking is for painting only.

I'd love to see Hyak get a cabin refresh like what Yakima and Kaleetan received.

[Barnacle]

Jan 4, 2011 12:13:04 GMT -8 Kahloke said:

I'd love to see Hyak get a cabin refresh like what Yakima and Kaleetan received.

As long as they don't use the same materials... the flooor covering and seat covering on those boats is next to impossible to keep clean, and the floor covering is a natural compound (marmoleum) that just flat-out isn't up to the kind of traffic it receives.

[Kahloke]

Jan 4, 2011 14:08:43 GMT -8 Barnacle said:

Jan 4, 2011 12:13:04 GMT -8 Kahloke said:

I'd love to see Hyak get a cabin refresh like what Yakima and Kaleetan received.

As long as they don't use the same materials... the flooor covering and seat covering on those boats is next to impossible to keep clean, and the floor covering is a natural compound (marmoleum) that just flat-out isn't up to the kind of traffic it receives.

They've gone back to using vinyl flooring, haven't they? Sealth, Issaquah, and of course, Chetzemoka, appear to have vinyl floors. As for seating, I don't see why they can't use vinyl there, too.

[Barnacle]

Jan 4, 2011 14:29:33 GMT -8 Kahloke said:

They've gone back to using vinyl flooring, haven't they? Sealth, Issaquah, and of course, Chetzemoka, appear to have vinyl floors. As for seating, I don't see why they can't use vinyl there, too.

Oh, it's always been vinyl to my knowledge; but several of the boats--mostly the ones that received marmoleum flooring--received a "smudge-free" vinyl that was literally millions of tiny, tiny dimples that hold on to absolutely everything.

Some crews had their own special recipe of witches' brew to get it clean, but it only worked moderately well from what I heard.

[zargoman]

I hope they dont get that material...I've noticed the amount of dirt, especially on the Kaleetan. The seats are like a magnet for the stuff. It is so porous and will grab every single grain of dirt off your clothes.

[tom98250]

The freshly painted Hyak (my favorite Super! ;D) and her older sister; Saturday afternoon in Friday Harbor.

Attachments:

[zargoman]

www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/sets/72157625920069878/
WSDOT put some "before, during and after" photos on Flickr.

Here's one of the last "rusty" shots I got.

Hyak departing Bremerton by zargoman, on Flickr

[Steve Rosenow]

Looks like a hack job, IMO.

[zargoman]

I'd have to agree. I though all was well until I was looking over some of the pics that show the rust being painted over. I just hope that it doesn't start turning orange/brown too quickly.

[EGfleet]

Feb 1, 2011 10:24:50 GMT -8 zargoman said:

I'd have to agree. I though all was well until I was looking over some of the pics that show the rust being painted over. I just hope that it doesn't start turning orange/brown too quickly.

I would disagree, actually.


Dakota Creek has done an excellent job painting the vessels in the past...they did the Elwha and the Sealth and both are holding up very well.

I can only go by what I witnessed at the yard itself the times I went down there, but she was taken down to bare metal, sanded and primed as should have been done. I don't think the photo the state posted really give an accurate portrayal of the work that went on.

[lmtengs]

Feb 1, 2011 2:56:20 GMT -8 Steve Rosenow said:

Looks like a hack job, IMO.

Looks like a great job, IMO.

[Steve Rosenow]

I don't know about you, but in some of those "After" shots I still see open spots of rust where there shouldn't be. If they had repainted that vessel, there wouldn't be any rust visible at all.

Case in point: alcove over the entryway to the lower shelter deck here: www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/5393563411/in/set-72157625920069878/

You can also see visible rust on the door jamb and immediately around it leading to the lower passenger cabin.

I also see large spots of missing paint and rust on the vertical frame members on the curtain wall where the car deck open ports are, as well as rust.

Oh, and let's not forget the overspray on the pickle fork deck railings.

A good paint job wouldn't look like that.

[Kahloke]

Feb 2, 2011 3:08:03 GMT -8 Steve Rosenow said:

I don't know about you, but in some of those "After" shots I still see open spots of rust where there shouldn't be. If they had repainted that vessel, there wouldn't be any rust visible at all.

Case in point: alcove over the entryway to the lower shelter deck here: www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/5393563411/in/set-72157625920069878/

You can also see visible rust on the door jamb and immediately around it leading to the lower passenger cabin.

I also see large spots of missing paint and rust on the vertical frame members on the curtain wall where the car deck open ports are, as well as rust.

Oh, and let's not forget the overspray on the pickle fork deck railings.

A good paint job wouldn't look like that.

See EGFleet's comments from a few posts back. It appears they just did the exterior and will be doing the interior shelter spaces and car deck at another time.

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Feb 2, 2011 3:08:03 GMT -8 Steve Rosenow said:

A good paint job wouldn't look like that.

Your correct. I watched them shooting primer with snow flakes in the air one afternoon. Exterior paint job in the wintertime, DCI has a good paint shop but they did the best they could with the time they had.....

[Steve Rosenow]

Feb 2, 2011 8:29:03 GMT -8 Kahloke said:

Feb 2, 2011 3:08:03 GMT -8 Steve Rosenow said:

I don't know about you, but in some of those "After" shots I still see open spots of rust where there shouldn't be. If they had repainted that vessel, there wouldn't be any rust visible at all.

Case in point: alcove over the entryway to the lower shelter deck here: www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/5393563411/in/set-72157625920069878/

You can also see visible rust on the door jamb and immediately around it leading to the lower passenger cabin.

I also see large spots of missing paint and rust on the vertical frame members on the curtain wall where the car deck open ports are, as well as rust.

Oh, and let's not forget the overspray on the pickle fork deck railings.

A good paint job wouldn't look like that.

See EGFleet's comments from a few posts back. It appears they just did the exterior and will be doing the interior shelter spaces and car deck at another time.

The location I was referring to was the exterior of the Hyak, not the interior.

Of course, to be a true judge of that paint job I'd have to see the vessel in person (or see high-resolution shots taken on a bright sunny day), but from those low-resolution shots the WSDOT provided in that Flickr photostream, it looks like DCI could've done a better job.

[Barnacle]

I'm really impressed with how many of you who admit you haven't seen the paint job in person are willing to argue with someone who has. Evergreenfleet and I have both seen the boat, and I've worked on it.

I mean, complaining in one breath about the "low resolution" photos from WSF and in the next breath complaining about the overspray on the picklefork railings? Come on.

[whidbeyislandguy]

Feb 3, 2011 7:56:57 GMT -8 Barnacle said:

I'm really impressed with how many of you who admit you haven't seen the paint job in person are willing to argue with someone who has. Evergreenfleet and I have both seen the boat, and I've worked on it.

I mean, complaining in one breath about the "low resolution" photos from WSF and in the next breath complaining about the overspray on the picklefork railings? Come on.

Very well Put Barnacle....

[Ferryman]

Having personally being part of a Ferries refit (of a 47 year old vessel), I must say that I have a whole different perspective on refits now. We were lucky. We had two months of the ferry being in the shipyard, and normally refits are about a month or less. For the amount of work that needs to be done, there is a huge time crunch to do the job quick and correct. The work usually lasts right up until the minute the ferry is put back into service, and even then there are things that still get worked on overnight graveyard shifts. Winter is probably the worst time ever to try and do any painting especially on our wet West Coast.