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Post by FNS on Dec 28, 2011 18:30:51 GMT -8
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Post by mrdot on Dec 28, 2011 21:45:09 GMT -8
:)these new wsdot ferries make a good gallery of images! I don't hear so many dissagreements on these vessels as in the past! mrdot.
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Post by zargoman on Dec 29, 2011 11:27:26 GMT -8
I personally quit being so anti-KDT because they have been built and are here to stay and its not going to change. The actual construction seems to have been wonderful, its just the design that's less than desirable. Having worked at both Keystone and Townsend, I cannot adequately describe the shortcomings of the design, particularly in regards to the car deck layout. So far, the actual engines have been very reliable. It's some of the miscellaneous parts that were installed that I've seen issues with. That being said, I personally really enjoy sailing onboard them. It's a nice ride and comfortable seating. In order for them to work, the turnaround time needs to have an additional 5 minutes during the summer. As of now, of the boat is overloaded on both sides, it will be 30-40 minutes late by the end of the day. The one reason why they get so late is because it takes so long to load in a fashion that will provide maximum space. One of the bosuns said it perfectly; it takes forever when they have lots of talks and need to sort each vehicle in a particular lane. They cannot just fill one lane, then the next and so on when there's wide and long and tall stuff in the mix. The lanes are not wide enough. When its a full boat, they will usually load and unload two or three cars in one lane, then go to the next, then grab a tall, then repeat. It just takes more time than is alloted in the schedule. Nearly every crew has adapted to the unique loading and offloading. They do a fantastic job with what they have and the teamwork is awesome. Wed be in great shape if the lanes were a wee bit wider and there was curbing against the walls. The construction qualities are wonderful and the design is not. But, it is better than the Steilacoom II and I enjoy a ride on them (as long as I can get outta my car ) Sorry for the long post
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Post by rusty on Dec 29, 2011 18:43:52 GMT -8
When loaded well, it's remarkable in how many cars and trucks they can stuff into KdT.
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Post by zargoman on Dec 29, 2011 19:56:21 GMT -8
Absolutely. Raising the apron is a little sketchy sometimes. The cars bumper will hang over the lips of the apron and it needs to be lifted a little bit to clear the car deck, but not too much because it would hit the bumper. Once the boat takes off, there's still plenty of room for the safety net. The end is so narrow that the boats actually come in too far. They need some sort of minor extension on the sides to make the boat stop a little farther back in the slip. I'm sire WSF would be happier knowing that the nets could be put up before the boat starts to pull out.
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Post by zargoman on Mar 2, 2012 11:06:12 GMT -8
Salish sailing the Salish Sea on Christmas Eve
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Mar 2, 2012 18:16:02 GMT -8
The Salish will be activated and sent to the San Juans as the Inter-Island vessel. The E-State is going to Fauntleroy/Vashon to sub for the Klahowya due to a drive motor failure.
Good thing WSF has a spare vessel now.
Note: The Salish is heading to the Islands now, she is passing Whidbey Island now.
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Post by zargoman on Mar 3, 2012 14:21:20 GMT -8
That answers the question about the Klahowya...Good thing that a KTD was already at the San Juans
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Mar 3, 2012 17:23:55 GMT -8
Now, what do we do when the Elwha's drive motor burns out again?
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Post by chokai on Mar 3, 2012 18:14:16 GMT -8
Now, what do we do when the Elwha's drive motor burns out again? Hiyu to the rescue. :-)
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 4, 2012 14:06:37 GMT -8
Now, what do we do when the Elwha's drive motor burns out again? Not a problem right now--the Elwha's already in the yard for maintenance.
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Post by Dane on Mar 4, 2012 14:23:20 GMT -8
WSF has released some very beautiful whirlybird photos of the SALISH on the Port Townsend to Keystone Harbor at Coupeville run. These were taken by Mr. Dean Wallace of VIGOR. A total of 18 photos were released. I'm showing 3 of them in a smaller scale. Better resolutions are linked below each of these photos. FerryNut thanks for sharing these, and providing the links. That's a really great photo set. Sight for sore eyes to see the two vessels back on the route after years of odd sightings.
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Post by FNS on Mar 4, 2012 21:39:22 GMT -8
WSF has released some very beautiful whirlybird photos of the SALISH on the Port Townsend to Keystone Harbor at Coupeville run. These were taken by Mr. Dean Wallace of VIGOR. A total of 18 photos were released. I'm showing 3 of them in a smaller scale. Better resolutions are linked below each of these photos. FerryNut thanks for sharing these, and providing the links. That's a really great photo set. Sight for sore eyes to see the two vessels back on the route after years of odd sightings. My pleasure. The SALISH is beautiful and fun to ride. The people in the San Juans will have a chance in riding her starting this week. Last Friday evening, the SALISH made her historic first passage through the San Juans and her first arrival in Friday Harbor. She's seen poking around the corner. SALISH arriving at the main slip to unload crew cars. In the dock with the YAKIMA approaching. SALISH moves over to the tie-up slip. YAKIMA arriving. YAKIMA and SALISH in Friday Harbor. SALISH looks ready to do her work in the San Juans. Doing the same thing the CHETZEMOKA did there recently, the SALISH has her End Number One touching the dock in Friday Harbor.
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Post by FNS on Mar 8, 2012 0:26:21 GMT -8
Here are some webcam photos of the SALISH on her San Juan Islands inaugural sailing on Monday of this week: SALISH in the tie-up slip in Friday Harbor. Deck lights on and ready to take on passengers and their machines. SALISH moves over to the main slip. All aboard! SALISH departs Friday Harbor on her first public sailing in the San Juans. SALISH arrives Friday Harbor later that morning while a bug attacks this webcam. And, this is not October 31! SALISH arrives. A nice view of the SALISH. The SALISH really looks like she belongs in the San Juans. A beautiful ferry with lots of platforms to view the stunning San Juan Islands scenery and wildlife.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 8, 2012 7:06:46 GMT -8
The SALISH really looks like she belongs in the San Juans. A beautiful ferry with lots of platforms to view the stunning San Juan Islands scenery and wildlife. I know what you mean, re the large outside deck space (something that the Issaquah-class doesn't have) and the various inside lounges, but it is too bad that the ship wasn't larger. That would be a nice ship to ride in the San Juans during summer, but summer-traffic levels likely wouldn't let it happen (unless it's an emergency fill-in).
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Post by FNS on Mar 8, 2012 8:02:22 GMT -8
The SALISH really looks like she belongs in the San Juans. A beautiful ferry with lots of platforms to view the stunning San Juan Islands scenery and wildlife. I know what you mean, re the large outside deck space (something that the Issaquah-class doesn't have) and the various inside lounges, but it is too bad that the ship wasn't larger. That would be a nice ship to ride in the San Juans during summer, but summer-traffic levels likely wouldn't let it happen (unless it's an emergency fill-in). Yeah. She could have been a bit larger. And, today is forecast to be the warmest day of the week. Just look at all those lucky passengers sunbathing on her Sun Deck today and watching the beauty of the San Juans as well! Well, Keystone will be calling for her return soon. She'll be working with her CP sister KENNEWICK this year. I think this is going to be a good summer for the Admiralty Inlet run.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 8, 2012 13:49:16 GMT -8
I know what you mean, re the large outside deck space (something that the Issaquah-class doesn't have) and the various inside lounges, but it is too bad that the ship wasn't larger. That would be a nice ship to ride in the San Juans during summer, but summer-traffic levels likely wouldn't let it happen (unless it's an emergency fill-in). Yeah. She could have been a bit larger. And, today is forecast to be the warmest day of the week. Just look at all those lucky passengers sunbathing on her Sun Deck today and watching the beauty of the San Juans as well! Sunbathing? Dude, it's forty-six degrees (8 degrees C for the neighbors ) out. I'm guessing they're all inside clustered around the coffee pot for warmth... one of my cohorts was complaining that the boat is COLD the other day.
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Post by FNS on Mar 8, 2012 15:35:44 GMT -8
Yeah. She could have been a bit larger. And, today is forecast to be the warmest day of the week. Just look at all those lucky passengers sunbathing on her Sun Deck today and watching the beauty of the San Juans as well! Sunbathing? Dude, it's forty-six degrees (8 degrees C for the neighbors ) out. I'm guessing they're all inside clustered around the coffee pot for warmth... one of my cohorts was complaining that the boat is COLD the other day. I guess it varies from area to area. I see that it's 48 at KBLI, 50 at CYYJ, and 53 at KSEA. At least the folks have a good place to outside to get a little fresh air, even if it's a bit cool. The forecasters can't be right all the time. ;D
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Post by lmtengs on Mar 8, 2012 16:18:33 GMT -8
I see that it's 48 at KBLI, 50 at CYYJ, and 53 at KSEA. Test me. I'll guess Bellingham Airport, Victoria Airport, and lastly SeaTac?
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Post by chokai on Mar 8, 2012 16:20:47 GMT -8
Dude, it's forty-six degrees (8 degrees C for the neighbors ) out. I'm guessing they're all inside clustered around the coffee pot for warmth... one of my cohorts was complaining that the boat is COLD the other day. Hey anything close to or over 50 is shirts off weather... If you believe the PEMCO commercials. I am planning on taking taking the "long way" home from Whidbey this summer and riding Salish and Kennewick around sunset to play photographer a few times. There are few prettier runs in the system for that particular activity.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Mar 8, 2012 17:53:35 GMT -8
I see that it's 48 at KBLI, 50 at CYYJ, and 53 at KSEA. Test me. I'll guess Bellingham Airport, Victoria Airport, and lastly SeaTac? The swings out here are just as wild. 14 and then 11 with rain today, then tomorrow will only be 3. You just think the warmer coats can go away then boom you need em again. The projected droughts that England is going to face this summer with extreme water rationing likely, might be echoed here on a lesser basis due to the lack of snowfall. Forget Ferries in Toronto, we might be able to walk to the Islands here.
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Post by FNS on Mar 8, 2012 18:00:07 GMT -8
I see that it's 48 at KBLI, 50 at CYYJ, and 53 at KSEA. Test me. I'll guess Bellingham Airport, Victoria Airport, and lastly SeaTac? Your test score is a perfect one! A+ Now, I'll give you: 64 at TXKF 42 at EGLL 77 at YSSY 77 at NFFN 50 at KFHR (hint: this one is near where the SALISH makes fast for the night in the San Juans)
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Mar 8, 2012 18:05:17 GMT -8
Test me. I'll guess Bellingham Airport, Victoria Airport, and lastly SeaTac? The swings out here are just as wild. 14 and then 11 with rain today, then tomorrow will only be 3. You just think the warmer coats can go away then boom you need em again. The projected droughts that England is going to face this summer with extreme water rationing likely, might be echoed here on a lesser basis due to the lack of snowfall. Forget Ferries in Toronto, we might be able to walk to the Islands here. mmmm...balmy 20 here...windy though...
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 11, 2012 8:31:42 GMT -8
how long is the Salish in the San Juans for?? Perfect chance for another Anacortes trip.
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Post by FNS on Mar 11, 2012 12:19:37 GMT -8
how long is the Salish in the San Juans for?? Perfect chance for another Anacortes trip. From an email I received from WSF: From: Washington State Ferries <WSFAlert@wsdot.wa.gov> To: Subject: Ferry Alert: Anacortes/San Juan Islands-Salish to replace Evergreen State Date: Mar 2, 2012 5:12 PM On Mon., Mar. 5, the 64-car Salish will replace the 87-car Evergreen State as the inter-island vessel for approximately one month. We recognize that this is a temporary capacity reduction and we appreciate your patience and understanding. On the contrary, you get an improvement over the ES to the number of decks you can explore. I'll have to take another trip up there myself to get a ride aboard the SALISH in the islands. Have a fun trip!
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