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Post by FNS on Sept 2, 2011 21:44:26 GMT -8
September 17, 1989 Steam Whistles Galore! Watch this in HD full screen with your sound rattling the desk. This'll get the neighbor's attention around 6 minutes in. I only had a tape recorder and my camera, and my light meter's battery was dead so my exposures were hit and miss. I lost my tape of this, but luckily I had given a copy to my friend Paul and he found it. He is our hero! This is the most of Maggie I have ever heard recorded., but I hope I am wrong and someone has more! Enjoy. Einar That's quite a lot of whistle blasts! You can hear both sets of the MAGGIE's whistles. The triple set on her aft funnel and the single one on the forward funnel. Sometimes in unison on this tape. In fog here on the Sound, we usually heard the triple set. Sometimes, though, we were surprised to hear the deeper sounding single whistle do the blasting. The other notable ferries you heard on this tape were the VANCOUVER ISLAND PRINCESS and a Jumboferry of Washington State Ferries. The VIP's whistles sounded like the QUEEN OF OAK BAY while the WSF Jumbo sounds like the COHO. That ship sporting the decorative lights rising to the masts was the VANCOUVER ISLAND PRINCESS. When the MAGGIE was running, the VIP usually made fast at the south side of Pier 48. 1989 was the inaugural year when the Princess ships used Pier 48. They moved their operations from Pier 69, which was used by the MAGGIE and VICTORIA PRINCESS (QUEEN OF PRINCE RUPERT, now LOMAIVITI PRINCESS) since the late 1970s. Before then, it was good old shabby but beautiful Pier 64. *** *** *** I have that booklet of the PRINCESS MARGUERITE. I bought my copy from the gift store aboard the MAGGIE. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 13:30:04 GMT -8
I'm happy people are enjoying Maggie's whistles again. I ordered a copy of the booklet mentioned here and can't wait to get it. This reminded me of my favorite purchase at the gift shop: The Princess Marguerite papercraft model. I put mine together and it has always been on my desk or in a bookcase. Does anyone else have these? I have never found them on the used market. Einar Attachments:
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Post by piglet on Sept 3, 2011 20:59:09 GMT -8
I was poking around in my library and discovered I have more ferry books then I thought. I also checked my video library and found "Last runs on Vancouver Island 1988-1992" by the BC Railway Historical Association. The first thing on the disc is the PM leaving Victoria for the last time on September 17 1989, with lots of whistles and the like. I forget how long the clip is but its a desent length (I would check but someone else is watching a movie and has the player tied up).
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 19, 2011 9:50:37 GMT -8
Part of a nostalgia display at the Royal BC Museum in Victoria  |
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Post by FNS on Nov 13, 2011 20:57:03 GMT -8
Back a few years ago, I purchased a good collection of photos from a vintage outlet. Here are some great photos of the PRINCESS MARGUERITE from this collection: ALL OF THESE PHOTOS ARE FOR VIEWING ON THIS SITE ONLY. OTHER USES NOT PERMITTED. PRINCESS MARGUERITE prepares to sail from Victoria on an evening in 1986.  Boat Deck, starboard side, of PRINCESS MARGUERITE. Notice the "Quiet" sign. The engineers had their staterooms located under the stacks. Public dayrooms were at each end of these. The Princess Room and officers staterooms were ahead of these. The pub and solarium were aft of where this 1986 photo was taken.  Promenade Deck, starboard side, of PRINCESS MARGUERITE. This gave you a feeling of being aboard a miniature version of a big classic ocean liner. This 1986 photo shows the 1971 window installation, enclosing this promenade virtually completely. These were stained wood inside and painted outside. Some of these were hinged at the top and could be opened and secured to the overhead if desired. The ornate windows to the port are those that provided views from the Cafeteria (the formal Dining Saloon was below this deck). Ahead of this were public dayrooms and the forward Observation Room.  A closer look at the PRINCESS MARGUERITE.  A closer look at the MAGGIE's sister PRINCESS PATRICIA. Notice the different location of her whistles (one of the sets is missing). Taken after the closing of the temporary EXPO86 hotel business at New Westminster (I got to spend a couple of nights aboard her during the Fair). A fateful decision was made to award this ship to Taiwanese businessmen over Alaskan developers after the Fair. She would have been a hotel ship in Skagway, possibly today. Very bitter about this, to this day and beyond.  PRINCESS MARGUERITE away from her Victoria dock in 1986.  On to Seattle in 1986. |
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Post by mrdot on Nov 13, 2011 23:08:21 GMT -8
:)the bitterness of the disposal of both CPR princesses is profound to the memory of mrdot! the shabby buisness venture of our coastal relationship with Stena line is rancourous in my mind, and the other sister's disposal was not to code, and the Princess of Vancouver also had questionable disposal as well! :'(mrdot.
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Post by EGfleet on Nov 22, 2011 6:44:35 GMT -8
Brochure for 1958  |
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Post by FNS on Dec 5, 2011 0:32:08 GMT -8
Photos of the model replica of the second PRINCESS MARGUERITE located on the Second Level Lobby of the Empress Hotel in Victoria taken on Friday, December 2, 2011:     Wheelhouse and the raised roof over the Princess Room.  Stacks with engineers staterooms and public dayrooms at each end.  Detail and raised roof over the Ballroom.  It is appropriate and truly fitting that this replica of the PRINCESS MARGUERITE is on display in the Empress Hotel. Both the ship and the hotel were operated by the Canadian Pacific Railway. |
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Post by FNS on Dec 7, 2011 0:12:36 GMT -8
Here's a photo of the PRINCESS MARGUERITE in the early 1960s moored at Seattle's Pier 64-65 complex, getting ready to sail for Victoria in this nice morning setting. Notice the then newly installed corrugated plastic covers at the stern.  |
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Post by mrdot on Dec 7, 2011 14:35:48 GMT -8
:)nice post of the Margurete in Seattle, somehow corregated plastic sheeting, and the old classic day steamer didn't mesh! the latter days of the BC coast steamships was a downhill slide, but I guess better groomed than many present day bedraggled ferries! :'(mrdot.
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Post by Variable Pitch on Dec 21, 2011 11:47:33 GMT -8
Gowen, Sutton RPPC of the second Maggie circa 1938-1950 off Oak Bay...  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 22, 2011 20:06:31 GMT -8
Postcards of the 2nd Marguerite: - the first 3 photos are from the CPR - postcard by Vancouver Magazine Services - shot from Sturdies Bay  - postcard by Nature Colour Productions  - Stan V. Wright "Grande" postcard  - Stan V. Wright postcard - photo by Mike Roberts  ------------------------- ps: 1-2-3 and 3-2-1 Maggie 1 had 3 funnels Maggie 2 had 2 funnels Maggie 3 had 1 funnel |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 23, 2011 13:19:30 GMT -8
Postcards of the 2nd Marguerite: - the first 3 photos are from the CPR - shot from Sturdies Bay Fluge, that photo was shot by none other than Nicholas Morant, the CPR's special photographer. He seemed to be fond of getting arbutus trees into his BC Coast photos. For more see this thread beginning at reply #8. We see now that we have photos of the 2-stacked sisters coming & going from the same vantage point. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2011 14:21:57 GMT -8
Fluge, that photo was shot by none other than Nicholas Morant, the CPR's special photographer. He seemed to be fond of getting arbutus trees into his BC Coast photos. For more see this thread beginning at reply #8. We see now that we have photos of the 2-stacked sisters coming & going from the same vantage point. Thanks for that info. I was careful not to call it a "Madrona" tree, haha. I'm in the middle of enjoying J.F.Garden's book "Nicholas Morant's Canadian Pacific", so it's good to see more of Morant's work. |
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 23, 2011 16:24:54 GMT -8
Fluge, that photo was shot by none other than Nicholas Morant, the CPR's special photographer. He seemed to be fond of getting arbutus trees into his BC Coast photos. For more see this thread beginning at reply #8. We see now that we have photos of the 2-stacked sisters coming & going from the same vantage point. Thanks for that info. I was careful not to call it a "Madrona" tree, haha. I'm in the middle of enjoying J.F.Garden's book "Nicholas Morant's Canadian Pacific", so it's good to see more of Morant's work. Funny thing about those trees... This is from Wikipedia... North American members of the genus are called Madrones, from the Spanish name madroño (strawberry tree) although this terminology is not used in Canada. The European species are also called Strawberry Trees from the superficial resemblance of the fruit to a strawberry; some species are sometimes referred to simply as the "Arbutus".
In the United States, the name "Madrone" is used south of the Siskiyou Mountains of southern Oregon/northern California and the name "Madrona" is used north of the Siskiyou Mountains according to the "Sunset Western Garden Book".
In British Columbia, the trees are simply known by the name "Arbutus."
All refer to the same tree, Arbutus menziesii, native to the Pacific Northwest and Northern California regions. It is Canada's only native broadleaved evergreen tree. Some species in the genera Epigaea, Arctostaphylos and Gaultheria were formerly classified in Arbutus. As a result of its past classification, Epigaea repens (Mayflower) has an alternative common name of "trailing arbutus".Whatever you call 'em, they're beautiful trees and they sure made for a great framing device for those shots of the CP steamers.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2011 23:00:48 GMT -8
2 ships, same location: - Nicholas Morant is the photographer. From what I've read about Mr. Morant, he liked keep using his good locations which became his favourite spots to do his work. =================== Firstly, we have the Marguerite-II Postcards of the 2nd Marguerite: - the first 3 photos are from the CPR - shot from Sturdies Bay ==================== Next, we have the Patricia I didn't see a thread for her...I know there's a tendency to lump the Maggie and the Patricia together, but I think the Pat deserves her own thread. Two shots to start, both vintage and bearing the Canadian Pacific Stamp on the back. This first one is particularly good:  |
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Post by piglet on Jan 2, 2012 1:04:48 GMT -8
Just sitting around this evening/morning with the usual gang watching vids and I put in one with the arrival and departure of the last trip of the Maggie on it. It was nice/sad to hear the whistle echoing off the buildings around the inner harbour but knowing it wouldn't be something I will hear again. Up lifting to hear it but still sad to know she is gone. For those of us hanging out in the mancave here tonight, the islanders out number those from "away" which is not bad considering we are in northern Alberta. Just a nice way to start the year really.
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Post by Mike on Jan 6, 2012 17:09:11 GMT -8
Princess Marguerite II pulling away from the dock in Victoria. Photo taken by my grandfather.  |
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Post by mrdot on Jan 6, 2012 20:21:40 GMT -8
:)your grampa's pic. of the Margurete is a- ok, but the last Stena line phase was gastly for her hull livery, and it was strait down hill from there! only thing more gasty was when the Bby. was tarted up as marg. 111! even her rusticle's look better! ::)mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on Jan 6, 2012 21:48:42 GMT -8
That picture is golden!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 9, 2012 19:13:22 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 9, 2012 19:29:15 GMT -8
A couple of postcards I picked up recently at the Maritime Museum in Victoria. They have a pretty good selection of ferry postcards. I didn't have one of Princess Marguerite before, so this is a nice addition to my collection  |
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Post by Neil on Jan 18, 2012 15:10:46 GMT -8
Over the next few days, I'll be posting a series of newspaper articles from around the time of the demise of the Princess Marguerite. First, just a short piece from the Dolphin, August '83.    |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 18, 2012 15:18:49 GMT -8
Over the next few days, I'll be posting a series of newspaper articles from around the time of the demise of the Princess Marguerite. Thanks. much appreciated (and enjoyed) |
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Post by Neil on Jan 19, 2012 11:20:06 GMT -8
September '89, Vancouver Sun- a few days before the ' Marguerite's retirement.  |
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