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Post by Name Omitted on Sept 4, 2013 16:23:52 GMT -8
With the State putting out an RFP to design and engeneer a replacement, and with $10 Million USD allocated to design, let the speculation begin! Page 29 of the RFP proper has the specs for the new ship which seem cut and pasted from the Tusty's profile on the AMHS website. Anyone with experience care to hazard a guess as to how long the process is from here? |
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Post by Name Omitted on Sept 12, 2013 8:52:12 GMT -8
The overall ship is estimated cost of $210 Million, the state is looking at 18 month estimated design time. I'm not sure, but I think that clock starts when we select a contractor in October.
State begins process to replace Tustumena
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Post by compdude787 on Sept 12, 2013 9:04:54 GMT -8
The overall ship is estimated cost of $210 Million, the state is looking at 18 month estimated design time. I'm not sure, but I think that clock starts when we select a contractor in October.
State begins process to replace Tustumena
If the state thought $120 million was a lot for an Alaska Class Ferry, then $210 million is going to be insanely expensive. All three of the KdTs costed $213 million. |
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Post by Name Omitted on Nov 19, 2013 14:05:22 GMT -8
It looks like Glosten and Associates of Seattle will take the lead on this one. They gave us Kennicott, and while she has all the grace and style of a Soviet apartment block, she is an able and hard worker. Source; Seattle PI
Apropos of an earlier question as to why Kennicott could not replace Tustemena for the whole chain run, this article points out that the Tusty replacement cannot exceed 325 feet and fit in all of the harbors she is meant to fit in. Kennicott is 382 feet long. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 19, 2013 20:18:48 GMT -8
Apropos of an earlier question as to why Kennicott could not replace Tustemena for the whole chain run, this article points out that the Tusty replacement cannot exceed 325 feet and fit in all of the harbors she is meant to fit in. Kennicott is 382 feet long. Does Kennicott fit in all the harbours that Alaska state ferries service? |
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Post by Name Omitted on Nov 19, 2013 22:11:04 GMT -8
Does Kennicott fit in all the harbours that Alaska state ferries service? No. |
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Post by Name Omitted on Feb 5, 2014 7:24:20 GMT -8
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Post by Name Omitted on Apr 17, 2014 18:20:02 GMT -8
People may find the Tustumena Recon Report an interesting read. While some of it is most defiantly AMHS specific, there are some parts that get to procurement issues in general. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 17, 2014 18:23:07 GMT -8
People may find the Tustumena Recon Report an interesting read. While some of it is most defiantly AMHS specific, there are some parts that get to procurement issues in general. I love this kind of stuff. Thanks.  |
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Post by Name Omitted on Dec 3, 2014 6:28:36 GMT -8
The State updated the Tusty Replacement page. Direct link to the plans here. The State is accepting public comments on the plans now. |
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 3, 2014 9:01:54 GMT -8
The State updated the Tusty Replacement page. Direct link to the plans here. The State is accepting public comments on the plans now. It's nice to see the renderings and plan views of the replacement ship. It looks, well, like a larger version of the current ship, which is not a bad way to go, and it definitely keeps the traditional "Blue Canoe" shape. Thanks for sharing and keeping us up to date. |
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Post by Elwha on the Rocks on Jul 27, 2015 18:28:16 GMT -8
For the first time I looked closely at the drawings for the Tustumena replacement, and I have to say that it looks like a really nice ship! It has a great layout and looks very pleasing to the eye. (Are you listening WSF?) Personally, I'd like to see the ship named "Tustumena II" as the name has become quite iconic around the area that she will work. At any rate, well done AMHS, I can't wait to see this enter service!
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Post by Starsteward on Jul 28, 2015 7:04:18 GMT -8
For the first time I looked closely at the drawings for the Tustumena replacement, and I have to say that it looks like a really nice ship! It has a great layout and looks very pleasing to the eye. (Are you listening WSF?) Personally, I'd like to see the ship named "Tustumena II" as the name has become quite iconic around the area that she will work. At any rate, well done AMHS, I can't wait to see this enter service! A very nice looking ship, with passenger amenities best suited for her service area/ route. What is the rationale for using a stern door, elevator and turntable for moving vehicles rather than having a bow door or at least a side loading door? Doesn't it take a considerable amount of time to move vehicles, cars, vans, RV's and larger trucks onto and off of the two vehicle decks? Having only one entry/exit door also seems run counter to most vehicle ferry designs. Other than the entry/exit design, I rather like the overall size and design of the ship. It is of a size that might be well suited for a re-opened BCF route 40 or as a permanent route 11 vessel providing DAILY service, not the inane schedule that exists at present.
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Post by northwesterner on Jul 28, 2015 7:17:07 GMT -8
For the first time I looked closely at the drawings for the Tustumena replacement, and I have to say that it looks like a really nice ship! It has a great layout and looks very pleasing to the eye. (Are you listening WSF?) Personally, I'd like to see the ship named "Tustumena II" as the name has become quite iconic around the area that she will work. At any rate, well done AMHS, I can't wait to see this enter service! A very nice looking ship, with passenger amenities best suited for her service area/ route. What is the rationale for using a stern door, elevator and turntable for moving vehicles rather than having a bow door or at least a side loading door? Doesn't it take a considerable amount of time to move vehicles, cars, vans, RV's and larger trucks onto and off of the two vehicle decks? Having only one entry/exit door also seems run counter to most vehicle ferry designs. Other than the entry/exit design, I rather like the overall size and design of the ship. It is of a size that might be well suited for a re-opened BCF route 40 or as a permanent route 11 vessel providing DAILY service, not the inane schedule that exists at present.
It is a pretty nice looking design. Shocking, these days, in an era where seemingly all naval architects have lost any sense of style. Of course, making that elevator look good in the stern will be hard. The Tustumena replacement has to have an elevator because many of the ports called on in southwest Alaska / the Aleutian Islands do not have a terminal facility. The ferry pulls up alongside a wooden wharf, and the elevator is used to unload the cars, cargo. With some of these ports only seeing service twice a month for half the year, it would be pretty expensive to install a proper ferry dock. |
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Post by Starsteward on Jul 28, 2015 7:25:23 GMT -8
A very nice looking ship, with passenger amenities best suited for her service area/ route. What is the rationale for using a stern door, elevator and turntable for moving vehicles rather than having a bow door or at least a side loading door? Doesn't it take a considerable amount of time to move vehicles, cars, vans, RV's and larger trucks onto and off of the two vehicle decks? Having only one entry/exit door also seems run counter to most vehicle ferry designs. Other than the entry/exit design, I rather like the overall size and design of the ship. It is of a size that might be well suited for a re-opened BCF route 40 or as a permanent route 11 vessel providing DAILY service, not the inane schedule that exists at present.
It is a pretty nice looking design. Shocking, these days, in an era where seemingly all naval architects have lost any sense of style. Of course, making that elevator look good in the stern will be hard. The Tustumena replacement has to have an elevator because many of the ports called on in southwest Alaska / the Aleutian Islands do not have a terminal facility. The ferry pulls up alongside a wooden wharf, and the elevator is used to unload the cars, cargo. With some of these ports only seeing service twice a month for half the year, it would be pretty expensive to install a proper ferry dock. Thanks for the speedy response to my query. Given the infrastructure or lack thereof at many of her ports of call, the 'elevator' system makes terrific sense. |
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Post by FNS on Jul 29, 2015 17:56:19 GMT -8
From layouts released to the public, I have colorized the Outboard Profile of the planned replacement ship of the MV TUSTUMENA:  In black and white for the benefit of those still using old fashioned black and white monitors.  In color. ENJOY! |
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 30, 2015 7:34:27 GMT -8
From layouts released to the public, I have colorized the Outboard Profile of the planned replacement ship of the MV TUSTUMENA: In black and white for the benefit of those still using old fashioned black and white monitors. In color. ENJOY!It would be a fitting replacement for the TUSTUMENA. It would be interesting to see if that row of portholes on the cardeck actual translates into the actual ship, as built. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:28:33 GMT -8
I am really liking the design for the replacement to the Tustumena as well, I think she is going to be a great ferry. I must say the layout looks even better in the Alaska State Ferries colors vs black and white. I am thinking the portholes on the car deck will remain when she is built as those are crew quarters in that area. Here is a link to the deck layouts: www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/tusty_replace/doc/tusty_design_drawings.pdf . Now if I can just get a ride on the Tustumena out to Dutch Harbor before she is retired that would be great! |
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Post by Name Omitted on Jul 30, 2015 20:23:10 GMT -8
Now if I can just get a ride on the Tustumena out to Dutch Harbor before she is retired that would be great! Yeah... the speed at which things are going, you probably still have 5 years or so to make that happen. |
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Post by Name Omitted on Oct 15, 2015 6:09:57 GMT -8
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Post by Name Omitted on Feb 16, 2016 9:26:23 GMT -8
New Tustumena Design Ready
There is not much by way of new information on this, and nothing to indicate major changes from the latest set of conceptual drawings, but there is a bit about the cost of the vessel;
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Post by Name Omitted on Feb 17, 2016 7:44:39 GMT -8
A lovely rendering of the replacement vessel can be found at Glosten's web site. Sharp eyes in this group will no doubt see differences between the version they have rendered and the most recent publicly available plans, I have no way of knowing if this is from an earlier version, or if the latest plans have not been released. |
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 17, 2016 14:40:03 GMT -8
This certainly has lovely "Spaulding-esque" lines to it. Most modern ferries seem to feature lines inspired by your neighbourhood Walmart store.
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