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Post by Northern Exploration on Oct 6, 2008 7:08:02 GMT -8
I agree with your comments on smells. To this day when I smell a certain combo of diesel smells I think of the buses and trucks boarding the ferries when I was young. The same is true of the ferry itself. The mix of marine oils, damp smell (likely what you think of for old motels) coming from nontoxic moulds, and the lack of outgasing of new furniture combine to make a unique odour.
I find the same with aircraft. Older aircraft have a particular smell. When I was a kid there was also the stale cigarette smell mixed in. New aircraft smell much more like plastics and the outgasing of newer fabrics, foam and carpets. Old aircraft just smell different.
To this day when I smell a coal fire I think of my Great Grandmothers farm near Three Hills, Alberta. She kept her old coal stove in the basement of her "new" farmhouse because she liked the way it baked her bread and pies. Plus when she was cooking for a huge crowd she had this large flat surface to cook on and it could hold many pots or some very huge ones she kept there. Some charcoal (the chunk kind) gives off a similar smell triggering the memory for me.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Oct 6, 2008 7:18:37 GMT -8
What a great post Mill Bay. That really has a huge impact on me, and makes me so sad that the V's are actually going to be gone. The Queens are slowly dissapearing and taking the Dogwood fleet with them.....  |
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Post by Mill Bay on Oct 25, 2009 13:20:47 GMT -8
Finally found this thread (again  ). Don't give any more new members a hard time when they say they can't find relevant pre-existing threads, ha-ha. This is where I had meant to post the news info on the Johnson Street bridge scheduled to be replaced, although it seems more likely it's gonna get rehabilitated instead... something about a lack of provincial funding for the project. And the bridge is even within site of the legislature buildings. Anyway, with the opening of the GEB and the Pitt River bridge, and the plans I've seen for the new Port Mann, and the potential new Patullo Bridge, along with the Skytrain bridge and the new Canada Line crossing of the Fraser, and the new overpass across the CPRail yards in Port Coquitlam, it appears that another future rare site is any major river crossing or bridge span that is NOT a cable stayed structure. They are everywhere these days. Discovery channel is always doing documentaries about the worlds new highest or longest bridge somewhere, and nine times out of ten, it's always cable stayed (or suspension). These designs have been used so often, in so many places, to such an extent that they've become absolutely boring to look at. |
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 25, 2009 14:47:52 GMT -8
Finally found this thread (again ). Don't give any more new members a hard time when they say they can't find relevant pre-existing threads, ha-ha. This is where I had meant to post the news info on the Johnson Street bridge scheduled to be replaced, although it seems more likely it's gonna get rehabilitated instead... something about a lack of provincial funding for the project. And the bridge is even within site of the legislature buildings. Anyway, with the opening of the GEB and the Pitt River bridge, and the plans I've seen for the new Port Mann, and the potential new Patullo Bridge, along with the Skytrain bridge and the new Canada Line crossing of the Fraser, and the new overpass across the CPRail yards in Port Coquitlam, it appears that another future rare site is any major river crossing or bridge span that is NOT a cable stayed structure. They are everywhere these days. Discovery channel is always doing documentaries about the worlds new highest or longest bridge somewhere, and nine times out of ten, it's always cable stayed (or suspension). These designs have been used so often, in so many places, to such an extent that they've become absolutely boring to look at. What does this have to do with BC Ferries??  |
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Post by Mill Bay on Oct 25, 2009 14:55:25 GMT -8
Finally found this thread (again ). Don't give any more new members a hard time when they say they can't find relevant pre-existing threads, ha-ha. This is where I had meant to post the news info on the Johnson Street bridge scheduled to be replaced, although it seems more likely it's gonna get rehabilitated instead... something about a lack of provincial funding for the project. And the bridge is even within site of the legislature buildings. Anyway, with the opening of the GEB and the Pitt River bridge, and the plans I've seen for the new Port Mann, and the potential new Patullo Bridge, along with the Skytrain bridge and the new Canada Line crossing of the Fraser, and the new overpass across the CPRail yards in Port Coquitlam, it appears that another future rare site is any major river crossing or bridge span that is NOT a cable stayed structure. They are everywhere these days. Discovery channel is always doing documentaries about the worlds new highest or longest bridge somewhere, and nine times out of ten, it's always cable stayed (or suspension). These designs have been used so often, in so many places, to such an extent that they've become absolutely boring to look at. What does this have to do with BC Ferries?? Move the thread...  It has to do with the thread title, because conventional bridge design seems like it will be rare to see in the future, and because all your precious ferries will one day be replaced by a giant cable stayed bridge mwahahaha! It's the thread that's in the wrong category. |
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Post by Neil on Oct 25, 2009 15:33:49 GMT -8
Move the thread... It has to do with the thread title, because conventional bridge design seems like it will be rare to see in the future, and because all your precious ferries will one day be replaced by a giant cable stayed bridge mwahahaha! It's the thread that's in the wrong category. For 26 posts, it was in the right category...  |
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 25, 2009 16:59:08 GMT -8
'A cable stayed bridge replacing all ferries...'
That is something you will likely never see.
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Post by Mill Bay on Oct 25, 2009 18:04:12 GMT -8
Move the thread... It has to do with the thread title, because conventional bridge design seems like it will be rare to see in the future, and because all your precious ferries will one day be replaced by a giant cable stayed bridge mwahahaha! It's the thread that's in the wrong category. For 26 posts, it was in the right category... Alright guys, . Remember, I'm a Vulcan. Don't get logical with me. |
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Post by fargowolf on Oct 29, 2009 16:44:45 GMT -8
Mill Bay: I think that's a great idea.  She was the first purpose built ship to serve the North Coast, and the Charlottes. Dane: I agree. I miss riding the older ferries for that reason. Sure the new ones are nice and probably have that "new car smell", but nothing beats the sounds and smells of the veterans of the fleet... Within reason of course. |
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Post by Mill Bay on Nov 2, 2009 10:17:25 GMT -8
Finally found this thread (again ). Don't give any more new members a hard time when they say they can't find relevant pre-existing threads, ha-ha. This is where I had meant to post the news info on the Johnson Street bridge scheduled to be replaced, although it seems more likely it's gonna get rehabilitated instead... something about a lack of provincial funding for the project. And the bridge is even within site of the legislature buildings. Anyway, with the opening of the GEB and the Pitt River bridge, and the plans I've seen for the new Port Mann, and the potential new Patullo Bridge, along with the Skytrain bridge and the new Canada Line crossing of the Fraser, and the new overpass across the CPRail yards in Port Coquitlam, it appears that another future rare site is any major river crossing or bridge span that is NOT a cable stayed structure. They are everywhere these days. Discovery channel is always doing documentaries about the worlds new highest or longest bridge somewhere, and nine times out of ten, it's always cable stayed (or suspension). These designs have been used so often, in so many places, to such an extent that they've become absolutely boring to look at. What does this have to do with BC Ferries?? Just figured out another come back to this one, and it's so simple, too, as far as what it has to do with ferries... Chris, you of all people should know that every ferry has a bridge.  |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 2, 2009 15:24:58 GMT -8
What does this have to do with BC Ferries?? Just figured out another come back to this one, and it's so simple, too, as far as what it has to do with ferries... Chris, you of all people should know that every ferry has a bridge. Yes, and maybe one day, they will be hung, or 'stayed' by cables about 5 feet above the rest of the ship (so when the ship tips, the bridge doesn't ) |
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 2, 2009 20:56:35 GMT -8
What does this have to do with BC Ferries?? Just figured out another come back to this one, and it's so simple, too, as far as what it has to do with ferries... Chris, you of all people should know that every ferry has a bridge. Nonsense. Any true Mariner would call it a Wheelhouse |
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 4, 2009 8:23:56 GMT -8
Nonsense. Any true Mariner would call it a Wheelhouse True mariners call it a 'wheelhouse?'  Only five WSF boats still have wheels... I've called that funny little box just about everything from 'Mission Control' to 'bridge' to 'pilothouse' to... no, very seldom do I call it a wheelhouse. Guess all that training didn't do me any good after all. Does that mean I've wasted the last nineteen years in this field? ;D |
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Post by Quatchi on Nov 4, 2009 13:45:52 GMT -8
Yeah, wheelhouse is a term from the days of steam. I think once they started putting diesels in ships they started calling it a "navigating bridge." At least the Canadian and US Navies did.
EDIT: I take that back, I looked it up in the encyclopedia at school (apparently we have a library) and the wheelhouse is where the steering wheel is, the bridge is where the Officer on Watch is. In the old days the steering wheel was in a separate room of large battleships,usually well protected in the heart of the ship. This made it so if the bridge was hit they wouldn't loose control of the ship. So the wheelhouse is a term that technically should only be used with older navy destroyers and the like. In modern times the wheelhouse is part of the bridge, so its just called the bridge.
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Post by Nick on Nov 4, 2009 17:53:16 GMT -8
Yeah, wheelhouse is a term from the days of steam. I think once they started putting diesels in ships they started calling it a "navigating bridge." At least the Canadian and US Navies did. EDIT: I take that back, I looked it up in the encyclopedia at school (apparently we have a library) and the wheelhouse is where the steering wheel is, the bridge is where the Officer on Watch is. In the old days the steering wheel was in a separate room of large battleships,usually well protected in the heart of the ship. This made it so if the bridge was hit they wouldn't loose control of the ship. So the wheelhouse is a term that technically should only be used with older navy destroyers and the like. In modern times the wheelhouse is part of the bridge, so its just called the bridge. Cheers, To add to Cadmunkey's description, another reason for the wheelhouse to be protected in the bowels of the ship is so that the quartermaster doesn't second guess the intentions of the captain. Being blind, he can follow orders without thinking. |
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Post by uricanejack on Nov 4, 2009 18:03:49 GMT -8
Hi
The Origin of the term bridge. I always heard it comes from the mid 19th century paddle wheeler’s. These would be the ocean going side paddle wheelers.
They had a catwalk or bridge between the covers for the paddle wheels. It was a common practice for the officer of the watch to stand up on the Bridge as it afforded the best view.
The practice of having a high raised area with a clear view continued long after the paddle wheels was replaced by screws but the name stuck.
Originally most ships even up until WW2 had an open bridge deck. With a chart house to the rear.
As some one already pointed out the wheel was often not up on the bridge in earlier days and for protection not on warships.
The Chart house if the wheel was inside was known as a wheel house the whole thing the bridge the part of the bridge outside was the bridge wing.
Pilot house was a term used on the Mississippi by the riverboat pilots.
Even though large wheels have gone with the Do Do. It’s often still known as the Wheel House.
And still the Bridge. If you really want to know check the phone directory on board it will have the correct term for the ship you are on
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Post by BreannaF on Nov 5, 2009 2:11:43 GMT -8
When I was a young person (and one with a non-maritime background), I only heard the term "bridge" used in two different scenarios.
One of them was the place where the captain hung out on very large Navy ships.
The other involved some ship called the USS Enterprise.
And to my uneducated ear, it would have seemed odd to use the term with any smaller craft.
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). Don't give any more new members a hard time when they say they can't find relevant pre-existing threads, ha-ha.
She was the first purpose built ship to serve the North Coast, and the Charlottes.
