Queen of Chilliwack Plans

[Quatchi]

Hi

My name is Brett Williams I am 18 years old, i live in Chilliwack and have been interested and captivated by the ferries my whole life. I build model boats and was wondering if anyone out there has any idea of how to get a copy of the plans or if someone has made some for the Queen Of Chilliwack. I am planning on either designing my own "Concept Ship" or replicating the Queen of Chilliwack. For a little history on my Shipbuilding (http://www.rcuniverse.com/community/profile.cfm?section=models)
My Uncle and grandfather are both avid r/c craftsmen with experience in aircraft and ships.

Thanks for your time.

[Nick]

Welcome Aboard!!

What kind of plans are you looking for? Detailed plans tend to be fairly highly guarded by BCF. If you are just looking for an outline, maybe that is around, as the Fire Control and life saving plans are posted on board the ship as per TC regs. These plans have a basic outline of the layout of the ship, but not much is labeled.

I would offer to get them from work for you, but they are really cracking down on who gets copies of these plans. I might be able to get a profile though.

PS I see your user name is cadmunkey, do you do a lot of drafting work? I am a draftsperson for BCF.

[Quatchi]

Wow someone actually replied. Thanks. Yes I am an Architectural Drafting Technion at Craven/Huston/Powers Architects in Chilliwack. The architects I work for are non-computer people so they call me the cadmunkey. What are the requirements of a person who would be able to get a copy of the plans. I have Autocad so I can just interpret the cad drawings. What are the chances of you getting me this file. I can sign waivers or something like that. I really want to make an accurate reresentation and having actual plans would help a tonne with making this work. If you cant help me directly could you point me in the right direction.

Thanks allot

Brett

[Nick]

Unfortunately, you have to be a contractor with BCF to get any plans, and even then they are very stingy with giving out autocad files. Your best bet is to somehow get a photo of the posted life saving and fire control plans on board the ship, as these have the layout/outline.

I will talk to some higher-ups when I go back on tuesday for you to find out about getting a general plan. I think that the best you could hope for is a PDF of the base drawing (no labelling).

I assume you have access to plotters etc. for printing a large drawing? I don't know about you, but I hate looking from an on-screen drawing. I like doing the drafting on the computer, but I need to plot the drawing to work from it.

As I said before, I am sure I could get a side profile for you, but I'll ask about a full plan.

I had another idea as well. There are a lot of members on here with extensive photo collections online. I wonder if you could amass a collection of photos big enough that you could create your own basic drawings. Granted, you would have better luck with this if you were creating a more well-known ship such as the spirits, but you might luck out with the 'Wack.

[Nick]

Try some of the websites shown here

ferriesbc.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=photos&action=display&thread=1188316742

[NMcKay]

just thought id let you guys know im an HP Tech With the Designjet Group

[Low Light Mike]

Here is an exterior diagram. Not what you were looking for likely, but it does show the outside.

www.bcferries.bc.ca/corporate/brand_identity/specs/vessels/BCF_VesChil.pdf

[Quatchi]

Thanks allot guys. Even if the diagrams Flugel Horn sent me are all i can get that helps me allot. Me and my brother and a buddy are going to see her this Saturday on the Earls Cove-Salters Bay run. We decided to go for a day trip and we are taking a few digital cameras so hopefully I will be able to get all the detail I need. It's just hard to get dimensions and general underwater features right from photographs.

Thanks allot, especially coxnick, and yes I have access to a plotter.

P.S. I f anyone has any pictures or diagrams or any helpful information about her please send it to my e-mail ( [e-mail] ). And yes as I continue on my project I will post pictures on r/c universe for you to see if you want.

[Nick]

Good news. I talked to some people at work today and I should be able to get you a general arrangement plan as well as a lines plan (showing underside of hull). All should be with a 1:200 scale. (good thing you have a plotter).

Hopefully should be able to get them tomorrow.

I am looking forward to watching this project take shape. Someday I would like to get back into r/c model building too. (I used to have a 4-foot model of USS Enterprise)

[Quatchi]

Coxnick I do not believe I can thank you enough. What you have done has helped me immensely with my project. Thanks to everyone who has helped me this far.

[WettCoast]

There are more photos of the Q of Chilliwack on my photo site at this address:

s90.photobucket.com/albums/k268/wetcoastkidjst/Chilliwack/

BTW, I am fairly certain that the Chilliwack will not be doing the Jervis Inlet route until at least early October, as she remains on central coast service out of Port Hardy until the end of this month.

[Nick]

cadmunkey said:

Coxnick I do not believe I can thank you enough. What you have done has helped me immensely with my project. Thanks to everyone who has helped me this far.

hey, wait!!!!

Don't thank me until you have them in your hands.


Just out of curiosity, Why the Chilliwack? it is kinda the oddball of the fleet.

[Quatchi]

Why the Queen of Chilliwack. First off I live in Chilliwack. Secondly I think the fact that it is the oddball of the fleet that draws me to her. All my friends and family figure I've gone nuts and when I told them I had signed up to an on-line Ferry community they started calling me the ferry nerd. I don't want to generalize for all of Chilliwack but I don't think people out here appreciate the ferries the same way I and I believe most of the other people on this forum do. People out here don't care what ship their on they don't even realize that some are different from the others. They have all seen the spirits and V's and believe they are all the same. I want to build one they have never seen before, yes the oddball of the fleet, the one ship that will convince them that there is variety and beauty to our very diverse fleet.

Also I think it looks cool. Personally I think it has the most character out of every single other ship in the fleet and what can you expect from the oddball of the fleet.

Thanks for listening I gotta get me a girlfriend, I spend to much time thinking about ferries, I just had to spew my thoughts.

P.S. how do you get the graphics at the bottom of your post.

[Neil]

Cadmunkey, it should be pretty easy for you to find a girlfriend; judging by your taste in ferries, you're a pretty easy guy to please.

[Quatchi]

Thats what I figured. No Potato. So far.

[Nick]

Well, the 'Wack definitely has character, I'll give you that.

Re: graphics in signature

I'm kind of a novice at this stuff, but I'll try to explain it. You have to have an online photo hosting site, such as the free fotopic.net as proboards doesn't actually allow images to be uploaded. Once you have a photo uploaded to your hosting site, you can get a direct link URL for the photo. In your signature back here, type . The photo should show up in your signature. One quick note: The photo can't be more than 800 pixels wide or 200 pixels tall.

I saw a post a while back giving better instructions on how to do this, but after a quick search, I can't find it anywhere.

[Mill Bay]

cadmunkey said:

Why the Queen of Chilliwack. First off I live in Chilliwack. Secondly I think the fact that it is the oddball of the fleet that draws me to her. All my friends and family figure I've gone nuts and when I told them I had signed up to an on-line Ferry community they started calling me the ferry nerd. I don't want to generalize for all of Chilliwack but I don't think people out here appreciate the ferries the same way I and I believe most of the other people on this forum do. People out here don't care what ship their on they don't even realize that some are different from the others. They have all seen the spirits and V's and believe they are all the same. I want to build one they have never seen before, yes the oddball of the fleet, the one ship that will convince them that there is variety and beauty to our very diverse fleet.

Also I think it looks cool. Personally I think it has the most character out of every single other ship in the fleet and what can you expect from the oddball of the fleet.

Thanks for listening I gotta get me a girlfriend, I spend to much time thinking about ferries, I just had to spew my thoughts.

P.S. how do you get the graphics at the bottom of your post.

Hey Cadmunkey...

just wanted to say I absolutely agree with you when it comes to appreciating the Queen of Chilliwack...

I'm out here in Chilliwack too, and I remember when the Chilliwack first came to Canada...
I still have one of the originial news articles...

There was no small amount of commotion in my house when they announced the name of course... my parents sort of went a little loopy over it because they thought I was actually interested in it for some reason... ha-ha-ha... I wonder why.

Actually, back then I was more just a ferry fan in passing, just reading the books and stuff, but it wasn't until I actually started reading on here that I realized how exciting it really could be actually ride and photograph the ferries.

[Nick]

Cadmunkey, I thought I'd let you know that your letter to BCF was received and we are currently rooting around to find whatever plans we think will benefit you. Unfortunately, most of our plans for the Chilliwack are still in paper form, so we'll probably either have to send you a scan or a copy via snail mail. We are kind of busy at the moment (Lloyd's register people are "visiting"), but we should be able to find something for you by the end of the week.

Actually, there's a bit of a story about the letter. Today I asked my manager if I could have a copy of the General Arrangement and Lines plans for the Chilliwack, as I knew someone who is looking to build a model of her. He said "Wow, that's a popular ship this week, I just received a letter asking for the same thing." I then discovered the letter was from Cadmunkey.

Just out of curiosity what scale are you going to build your model to?

BTW, I am not saying I don't like the Chilliwack, it's just that not many non-ferry nerds really know she exists, let alone appreciate her eccentricities.

[Quatchi]

Wow you guys at BC Ferries are really putting in a valid effort. I had thought all along that this was going to be very hard to do and that BCF would not be very co-operative. I guess it helps that I found an inside source. Don't worry to much about time-line I am still designing the mechanisms for the Z-drives. It is pretty hard to find parts small enough to build a Z-drive at this scale.

Seeing as I have a 6' bed in my truck and that my sources tell me the QoC is 375'11" I am planning on building her at 3/16" = 1' scale witch should put my boat at a length of 5'11-1/2", width of 10-5/16" , height of 1'5-1/4" from W.L. I have to increase the draft a bit so I can get more displacement witch will allow me to get more weight lower in the hull causing her to be more stable. It is a whole new world building scale operating models. The real ship may encounter waves half way up to their car decks but this model could be challenged by a wave almost up to the bridge and if I'm not careful wile sailing her she'll capsize.

In order to fix this I am going to give her approx 15-20% more draft witch will allow me to have her battery completely below the water line and hopefully the C.G. witch hopefully will pull the C.G. farther below the water line too. Eliminating most of my problems.

Thanks, and hopefully my rambling doesn't bore anyone to death.

P.S. I think it is great that the letter actually got to someone who new what to do with it. I kind of figured it would go into the junk mail bin. I am impressed with BCF. I didn't think that a company this big would give 10 seconds of their time to a request like this.

[Hardy]

Just goes to show that sometimes you never know what kind of a response you are going to get until you put your comment/question out there.

It also seems to have worked with regards to Route-30, insofar as their weekend schedules, and also some of the amenities at Duke Point....

[Curtis]

cadmunkey said:

P.S. how do you get the graphics at the bottom of your post.

For Details on this, Please Refer to this topic for how to do it and prefered size, though banners can strech to 800 wide
ferriesbc.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=rrr&action=display&thread=1144552472
And you might want to refer to this one this one for the Max Size of all photos if you decide to post one
ferriesbc.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=rrr&action=display&thread=1179466624

[Nick]

Hey Cadmunkey,

I have PDFs for you. Check your email tomorrow. I'm sending a General arrangement, lines plan, and midship profile for you.

[NMcKay]

Now....Ive got the general ararngments and line draws for the K class, Qunitsa, Quinsam and the Skeena Queen...I should get started...id be very interested in what your going to build them out of.

[Quatchi]

Thanks a million nick. The drawings are more than i expected. Now I just have to draw up my revised hull and generate my ribs. Then its off to the races.

Thanks Again

[Balfour]

It's quite interesting what you are doing, cadmunkey. I'd be interested to see what you design as I'm learning how to use AutoCAD in School. I'm working on a diploma in Drafting at VCC specializing in Civil-Structural and Architectural Drafting.