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Post by Retrovision on Apr 1, 2006 18:16:54 GMT -8
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Post by Curtis on Apr 1, 2006 18:17:01 GMT -8
Umm...I don't think the Pacificats can load faster than the Albion Ferries...especially with a single-lane ramp. Okay I didn't see the last few posts so I deleted it but still if they did make them double enders remove the upper car decks and passenger decks it would have worked and they could have made the ramps double laned. So It was only a joke out of all my remembering I forget about here, doh! However with what HMCS said it could be true |
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Post by Scott on Apr 1, 2006 21:56:01 GMT -8
There was a funny story in the Vancouver Sun about the new mascot for the Olympics (Howdy Dew - a raindrop in rubber boots holding a totem pole) and the plans for the opening ceremonies at BC Place which involved flooding the bottom section of the stadium with 15 meters of seawater from False Creek... putting in dolphins, seals (with Pamela Anderson -the "don't hurt the poor little seals activist"), and salmon, a fabricated rainstorm, Stockwell Day on a sea-doo, Ogopogo, and someone in a BC Ferries life ring... along with a lot of other hilarious things.
The Howdy Dew actually fooled me.. as I thought it was a weird but good idea:) It was funny though. Someone has a good imagination.. unlike the people who planned the Vancouver segment at the closing ceremonies in Turin.
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 2, 2006 5:49:52 GMT -8
The Howdy Dew actually fooled me.. This one fooled me for a second : |
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Post by Balfour on Apr 2, 2006 21:59:58 GMT -8
the plans for the opening ceremonies at BC Place which involved flooding the bottom section of the stadium with 15 meters of seawater from False Creek... Is the water in False Creek even considered actual water? I've heard it's a toxic soup! |
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Post by Doug on Apr 3, 2006 18:43:05 GMT -8
Yes...boaters dump their sewage in there. Gross and disrespectful to the enviroment if you ask me.
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Post by ed on Apr 3, 2006 19:18:09 GMT -8
Yes...boaters dump their sewage in there. Gross and disrespectful to the enviroment if you ask me. It's not just from the boats. The below still happens as far as I know. When concerns about pollution arose in the 1960s and 1970s, large "interceptor sewers" were built to redirect sanitary and some storm water flows to the newly constructed Iona Island Waste Water Treatment Plant. But during heavy rainfall, when the volume of storm water becomes too large for the combined sewers to handle, they overflow through outfalls into Vancouver Harbour, the Fraser River, English Bay and False Creek, rather than backing up through storm drains or into houses. Thats why the coliform counts in False Creek sometimes reach 540 in the eastern portion, almost three times the allowable limit for swimming. |
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 3, 2006 20:18:24 GMT -8
Victoria, the capital of this fine province, still doesn't propperly process their sewage, dumping it into the Straight of Juan de Fuca.
What kind of an example is it to show the world when we can afford the Olympics, and yet we don't implement propper sewage treatment for our own capital?
I'd answer: Quite apt, considering the current provincial government's environmental record.
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Post by ed on Apr 3, 2006 20:39:20 GMT -8
Victoria, the capital of this fine province, still doesn't propperly process their sewage, dumping it into the Straight of Juan de Fuca. [/i][/quote] At least there they pipe it way out into the Straight. I remember from working off Commissioner Street area on the boats years ago that on a real low tide you could see the metal grate on the outflow pipe with shreds of toilet paper hanging from it.  |
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Post by Scott on Apr 3, 2006 21:38:51 GMT -8
Victoria, the capital of this fine province, still doesn't propperly process their sewage, dumping it into the Straight of Juan de Fuca. What kind of an example is it to show the world when we can afford the Olympics, and yet we don't implement propper sewage treatment for our own capital? I'd answer: Quite apt, considering the current provincial government's environmental record.Don't forget the previous provincial government's record.. who also were part of bringing the Olympics here and part of doing nothing about the sewage. For all the opposition to it, I've heard that sea-life thrives down there where the stuff comes out:) False Creek is pretty bad. For the reasons already stated and also because of its history. It was heavily industrialized all around that area for much of Vancouver's history. I imagine there are layers and layers of bad stuff at the bottom of the "creek". |
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Post by ed on Apr 3, 2006 21:54:35 GMT -8
Victoria, the capital of this fine province, still doesn't propperly process their sewage, dumping it into the Straight of Juan de Fuca. What kind of an example is it to show the world when we can afford the Olympics, and yet we don't implement propper sewage treatment for our own capital? I'd answer: Quite apt, considering the current provincial government's environmental record.Don't forget the previous provincial government's record.. who also were part of bringing the Olympics here and part of doing nothing about the sewage. For all the opposition to it, I've heard that sea-life thrives down there where the stuff comes out:) False Creek is pretty bad. For the reasons already stated and also because of its history. It was heavily industrialized all around that area for much of Vancouver's history. I imagine there are layers and layers of bad stuff at the bottom of the "creek". When they started the work for expo 86 even the toxic land dumps in Alberta and Oregon didn't want the stuff they were digging out of the north side. False Creek was total industry years ago and the mud is full of heavy metals like mercury and also PCBs. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Apr 3, 2006 21:59:28 GMT -8
So False Creek is leaking PCBs and mercury out into the strait? Why hasn't your governmnet cleaned it up? Our government cleans up areas of water than need cleaning up, why doesn't yours do it?
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Post by ed on Apr 3, 2006 22:07:05 GMT -8
So False Creek is leaking PCBs and mercury out into the strait? Why hasn't your governmnet cleaned it up? Our government cleans up areas of water than need cleaning up, why doesn't yours do it? The thing seems to be the metals or whatever it is is under alot of mud and silt. If left alone it is not leaching. The problem seems to be only when a dredge is brought in and starts to distrurb the bottom. |
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 4, 2006 13:36:01 GMT -8
So False Creek is leaking PCBs and mercury out into the strait? Why hasn't your governmnet cleaned it up? Our government cleans up areas of water than need cleaning up, why doesn't yours do it? The thing seems to be the metals or whatever it is is under alot of mud and silt. If left alone it is not leaching. The problem seems to be only when a dredge is brought in and starts to distrurb the bottom. I think there might be some misunderstanding going on here. For those out-of-towners, Flase Creek is as its name states, 'false.' Any diturbance would be by means other than water-flow (with the exception of the tides). Our government cleans up areas of water than need cleaning up, why doesn't yours do it? I wouldn't be so sure about that... although I'm sure that your government would be quite pleased to hear you make that statement, you probably have that opinion because of money put into making you believe that, not because of money put into the clean-up projects themselves. |
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Post by Scott on Apr 4, 2006 22:24:45 GMT -8
As dirty as False Creek is, at the mouth of False Creek are some of Vancouver's most famous beaches... and people swim in them all summer!  (and did even when False Creek was an industrial waste land) |
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 4, 2006 22:40:59 GMT -8
They readily smoked back then, as well; I seem to remember quite a difference in smoking restrictions from when [glow=red,2,500]even I
[/glow] was a kid (was born in '82), when compared to today, and there seems to be quite a difference.
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Post by Doug on Apr 5, 2006 21:18:23 GMT -8
Unites States waters clean...? I heard on some shows that Puget Sound is one of the most polluted water bodies in the world...I think you were false-informed Dan. A bad thing about the American government is that they aren't really up for "enviromental" changes...or so Bush isn't.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Apr 5, 2006 22:00:45 GMT -8
Looks like one of the books I am forced to read forgot to put a notice saying "This book contains alot of fiction"
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 5, 2006 22:54:53 GMT -8
Unites States waters clean...? I heard on some shows that Puget Sound is one of the most polluted water bodies in the world...I think you were false-informed Dan. A bad thing about the American government is that they aren't really up for "enviromental" changes...or so Bush isn't. Agreed. If anything, the only movement in terms of saving for the next generation, what is so necessary, the environment, has been backwards ever since Clinton (and he certainly wasn't any kind of pioneer when it came to actual-results); that's is, when speaking of the most powerful nation on the planet, the U.S.A. |
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Post by Dane on Apr 8, 2006 1:26:49 GMT -8
Isn't the most polluted water in the world the stream that leaves Brittania Beach mines? Maybe that's just Canada.
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Post by Balfour on Apr 8, 2006 10:26:30 GMT -8
I thought it was Possum Lake from the Red Green Show. I heard it's not even considered water anymore.
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Post by Quinsam on Apr 8, 2006 16:51:24 GMT -8
Well, a lot of discussion about pollution going on here I see.
Well, I know that False Creek south was indeed logging and industrial. the water of False Creek to the west of Granville St Bridge is fine, at least to my knowledge, because I have been swimming in those waters before. I even drove an Aquabus from Science World to Granville Island!
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(and did even when False Creek was an industrial waste land)
