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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 6, 2005 18:56:30 GMT -8
did BC Ferries own pacificat Voyageur?
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Post by Curtis on May 6, 2005 19:24:13 GMT -8
They did. They just didn't run it
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 6, 2005 19:29:12 GMT -8
So what exactly did they do with it?
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Post by Curtis on May 6, 2005 20:14:18 GMT -8
They just kept it at Deas and Burrard Drydock and put a rain cover over it thats all they did with it till they were sold
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Post by Doug on May 6, 2005 20:24:45 GMT -8
That "rain cover" was actually shrink wrap, to protect it from the elements (it was supposed to be pretty much brand-new when sold).
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 7, 2005 8:15:43 GMT -8
What was the planned route for that ferry to operate on?  |
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Post by Curtis on May 7, 2005 8:17:05 GMT -8
Same as her sisters HSB-Dep. Bay
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 7, 2005 8:32:56 GMT -8
so wwhy didn't they run her on that route?
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Post by Curtis on May 7, 2005 8:39:21 GMT -8
Probably because the Cats were noticed to be a failure by then and would be sold soon
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 7, 2005 8:43:35 GMT -8
So it was an even more waste of money to build the voyageur Basically Than?
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Post by Ferryman on May 7, 2005 9:08:26 GMT -8
Yeah, but when they realized it had all failed not long after Discovery was put into service that Voyageur was like half way through being built, and it's not like you can just cancel an order on a ship after they already started to build it.
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Post by NMcKay on May 7, 2005 11:09:15 GMT -8
they should have tried the route with all 3 vessels first, then we could have seen how well they run, the vessels could have run well @ a reduced speed, and if you have 3 of them, then you suddenly have 1 always sailing to port.
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Post by Ferryman on May 7, 2005 15:35:49 GMT -8
I'm kinda glad they were gone, because you had to pay extra money to go on them and when they had Pacificat Explorer and Oak Bay doing that route, I think you had to pay more to go on the fastcat but the normal price to go on the Oak Bay. To me it wasn't worth that much more coin to get there like 15 mins faster.
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Post by Curtis on May 7, 2005 16:48:02 GMT -8
There's also the overhight limit bit of it. Which just gave me a brilliant idea if we still owned the Fastcats it might have worked. What if they put one or two to work on the Mid Island express and started underhight only sailings that might of just worked if we had still owned them plus faster sailing times and less traffic at Dep Bay
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Post by NMcKay on May 7, 2005 17:39:34 GMT -8
and a cool Ship to replace the Chilliwack.
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Post by Quinsam on May 7, 2005 18:22:56 GMT -8
Nice Pic of Oaky here!!!  |
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 8, 2005 9:12:59 GMT -8
Wheres the photo taken?
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Post by NMcKay on May 8, 2005 9:39:21 GMT -8
Departure Bay.
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Post by Curtis on May 8, 2005 11:27:42 GMT -8
Its almost hard to tell
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Post by clay on May 9, 2005 1:36:05 GMT -8
Pacificats were the biggest pieces of junk B.C. Ferries ever owned. When I went on one, it was raining, and a motorcyclist wiped out on the aluminum car deck, which just happened to be SUPER slippery when wet. Then, we went upstairs, and couldn't find a place to sit, because of the lack of seating, and when we did find a place to sit, we had to share a table ( half of the seats were around tables, 4 per ) with two complete strangers! AND, the seats were SUPER uncomfortable! So, we decided to go outside, only to discover that the only outer deck space was this little tiny section, half the size of a tennis court, and everyone out there was smoking! So, back in we went, only to spend the rest of the voyage wandering aimlessly like cattle on this joke of a ferry. Half a billion dollars down the toilet thanks to the N.D.P. Yeah, let's vote for them.
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Post by cascade on May 9, 2005 2:47:04 GMT -8
There is some very interesting info on the Cat's - I photocopied out of a ferry Trade magazine and posted (Mail) to Harbourlynx Kid - maybe he can scan it in and post them on the boards. (Are scanners are dead) You will be very surprised
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Post by NMcKay on May 9, 2005 6:46:25 GMT -8
yeah. the fast cats were a good idea, but somethings i wanted changed.
1) New seating style
2) No Over Heights, and No MotorCycles
3) Remove the Bow and stern doors, and build purpose built berths @ both ends.
4) Make it a No Smokign Vessel,
5) Increase Outter Deck Passenger Space.
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Post by cascade on May 9, 2005 10:57:47 GMT -8
Did you know that:
19168 Pacificat Explorer - has had it Class Suspened and withdrawn - as it has not had the surveys done.
It should have had the main surveys done June 30 2004 - also it is listed as owned by Seaspan International Ltd.
This will make it a lot harder to sell on. The cost of having the surveys done and other bit's is very small - unless there are major problems with the Hull. I would think that a figure of around $150,000 to take her out of the water and do all the surveys need - back in the water. Small price to pay - for someone like Seaspan - or the Washington Group.
So the $69,000 quesation is - if they don't want to maintain her class - then what plans have they got for her? Break up for spares ? She is worth a lot less now - than when Washington Marine Group got her - so Tax write off.......
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Post by Ferryman on May 9, 2005 14:47:22 GMT -8
Yeah, they've been sitting in North Van for a while now, and I'm sure there is some type of corosion on the hull now, if not probably like muscles or whatever sticks to hulls of boats that have been in the salt water for a long time.
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Post by Dane on May 9, 2005 16:17:42 GMT -8
They sailed a few months ago (they being one) and obviously the buyer had no interest.
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