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Post by noleaksyet on May 23, 2005 15:11:50 GMT -8
Can the cumbi cross the gulf? In the summer months? in the winter months?.
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Post by Mac Write on May 23, 2005 22:13:48 GMT -8
Not that simple. Maracibo is a great place and My mom was a member for 17 years until she moved to Saltspring. They aren't snobs like some people who want to get them out to build a bridge. Would you want someone to get bankrupt to put a highway through your property?
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Post by cascade on May 24, 2005 7:28:36 GMT -8
I don't think building bridges will bring in more people to live on the Gulf Islands. The winners then would be the people / families who sell out - houses and land - and why did they move to the islands in the first place - most like to get away from the rat race and have a nice easy life. I don't think money made that big of an impact - so I don't think they would be sellers of land or property.
So without the additional people - you just can't justified the cost of building bridges - links.
Yes I do agree - there are one of two or even three places where a very short bridge would work - but then again - these smaller island have only around 600 people living on them - and the cost per 600 people - I am sure the BC Government has a lot more important things to do with the funds than build bridges linking small - low pop - island together - thereby doing away with a ferry business - just because there is a few labour / union problems.
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Post by Balfour on May 24, 2005 16:39:27 GMT -8
Who will the bridges be primarily for? Gulf Islanders. And they wouldn't go for it in a million years. You're right, besides, I like the Gulf Islands the way they are now, and I don't really want them to change too much. |
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Post by Engineer on May 24, 2005 17:33:51 GMT -8
Can the cumbi cross the gulf? In the summer months? in the winter months?. The Cumbie was build to carry passengers in the waters of the gulf islands, She is classed as a home trade 4 To sail to Vancouver with passengers I believe it needs to classed as home trade 3. |
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Post by Quinsam on May 24, 2005 17:34:11 GMT -8
1 bridge to saltspring from crofton wouldn't hurt commute too much, a small bridge, Howe Sound Queen would fit perfectly into service from Swartz Bay, Mill bay is planned to be bought by me in the future, What should I call my ferry company if I buy the mill bay?
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Post by Doug Ubell on May 24, 2005 17:48:44 GMT -8
Is that serious? Well good luck paying for fuel and all your insurance and licenses.  |
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Post by Quinsam on May 24, 2005 17:54:10 GMT -8
we might even live on it yet.  |
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Post by Doug on May 24, 2005 17:55:35 GMT -8
Well if we had sold our house and property when the Queen of Victoria was being sold, we probably could of afforded her, but I'm not interested in buying the ferries.
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Post by Quinsam on May 24, 2005 20:45:45 GMT -8
I am moving to sidney as I said, I will probably be taking a boat trip with my own boat around to sidney spit and back, have a barbeque on the beach while we are over there.
I would like to own the old mill bay ferry, and run our own little ferry service across to somewhere.
Does Mill bay have capacity of 16 cars or 18 cars? I thought it was 18 cars.
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Post by Curtis on May 24, 2005 20:52:33 GMT -8
16 Cars
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Post by Quinsam on May 24, 2005 20:57:08 GMT -8
it says in on this page: www.britishcolumbia.com/GuestWriters/armstrong_ron/millbayferry.htm ''Victoria machinery depot was contracted to build a replacement. Launched in 1956, she was an all steel construction, 125 feet long with a capacity of 18 cars (two more than the older ship), and she also received an eight-cylinder Gardner diesel engine.'' |
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Post by cascade on May 25, 2005 9:13:58 GMT -8
Harry,
The info you have just posted on the Brentwood - Mill Bay - well you shouldn't believe everything you read.
The name of the vessel is actually MV Cascade - not the SS Brentwood.
If you remember the SS means "Steam Ship" where the first vessel on this route was a Steam Ship - she changed to MV in 1926. The name change again in 1948 to MV Brentwood. Wilf was the second Engineer on the Brentwood. Williams was the first engineer on the Cascade then the Brentwood. Wilf is credited with the photo. Armstrong made a short Video - back in 1998 - which was shown then on Rogers cable.
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Post by Scott on May 26, 2005 7:23:15 GMT -8
The Mill Bay actually had an overload on Monday when I was on it. It's a neat little boat, but not a lot of room to live in!  |
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 26, 2005 8:17:10 GMT -8
When I saw the Mill Bay on Sunday she was full right up. Any more cars and they would of been left behind! I also saw the Quinsam yesterday and she was full right up to around 11am from Gabriola! That must be a busy sailing cause other times I have seen her at the same time and she is always full on that sailing!
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Post by Grape Ape on Jun 6, 2005 11:56:08 GMT -8
Re: the Salt Spring access from Galiano...the chances of a public bridge / road running down the middle of Maracaibo (that entire peninsula of Long Harbor) are equarl to the snowball's chances in h%LL. Like MacWrite said Maracaibo is a private club / community.
Further, the geography of Galiano doesn't permit a cost-effective road. (Mt. Sutil & Mt Galiano are in the way)
The "bridges" section of the Wright report was speaking specifically of elimanating service to places like Saturna (two short bridges from Mayne, via Samuel Island), Gabriola (Dodd Narrows) and the 40 ft wide Thetis/Kuper canal. Something like a bridge over Trincomali Channel there wouldn't make sense, VS over Wallace Island to Fernwood.
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Post by Ian on Jun 6, 2005 21:54:40 GMT -8
i'll say this, a bridge from penders to saturna i will go for but leave the other islands alone. who wants a bunch of concrete obstructing our beautiful waterways!
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Post by kylefossett on Jun 9, 2005 17:05:22 GMT -8
Can the cumbi cross the gulf? In the summer months? in the winter months?. The Cumbie was build to carry passengers in the waters of the gulf islands, She is classed as a home trade 4 To sail to Vancouver with passengers I believe it needs to classed as home trade 3. the bowen queen was re classed around 1999 to allow her to run route 9a. that is why she is the ship that does that run. in theory all of your routes that include bridges will work but when it comes down to actually build it it will not work. your maps do not show the protected areas that are on these islands. on harbourlynx kids map the bridge from just south of burgoyne bay to cow bay would have a road run right through the garry oak protected area on saltspring. |
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Post by Michael Jackson on Jun 14, 2005 4:01:32 GMT -8
Any idea how deep Trincomlee Channel is between Galiano & that part of Saltspring? I think it's pretty deep, and wouldn't be cheap or easy to anchor ANY bridge.
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Post by Balfour on Jun 14, 2005 6:42:58 GMT -8
I hop you're not the real Michael Jackson
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Post by Curtis on Jun 14, 2005 7:25:38 GMT -8
Strangeness? Is that his real name?!
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Post by Balfour on Jun 14, 2005 16:03:35 GMT -8
I dunno, maybe it is. A guy named Michael Jackson wrote one of my Geography 12 text books.
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