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Post by Balfour on Dec 6, 2005 10:24:30 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby is back with BCF with her original name, running on the Comox-PR run.
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 6, 2005 16:26:09 GMT -8
I've always gotten the impression, for some reason, that the original plan for once all the major spaulding-designed ships were completed in the 60s, that the 4 soon-to-be V-Class would be assigned to route 1, and the B-Class were to be assigned to route 2. I'm talking general parameters here, not specific ship assignments actually made. How off-course am I on this one?
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The Burnaby is the sister to the Queen of Nanaimo and Queen of New Westminster (pre-lifting); all three were built between '65 and '66. Apparently, the plan now is to keep all three (a given for the New West, of course), and presumably do a major refit to the Burnaby, the same as they are now completing on the Nanaimo. As has been pointed out in the past, but deserves repeating, both the Burnaby and the Nanaimo *were* due to be retired in the next few years, according to that update made in 2003, and have now been granted a life extention of an estimated 20 years.
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 6, 2005 16:27:07 GMT -8
Sorry, that should read "between '64 and '65"
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 6, 2005 16:34:29 GMT -8
I've always gotten the impression, for some reason, that the original plan for once all the major spaulding-designed ships were completed in the 60s, that the 4 soon-to-be V-Class would be assigned to route 1, and the B-Class were to be assigned to route 2. I'm talking general parameters here, not specific ship assignments actually made. How off-course am I on this one? You're right on track on that one. Once the V's were built (Victoria and Vancouver), the Tsawwassen and Sidney were sent off to route 2 to replace the ferries blackball had used. But then of course when the Newwest and Nanaimo, and Burnaby were built, they were immediately put on route 2. So the Tsawwassen was basically sent to Deas as a spare most of the time, and then the Sidney did the Gulf Islands route. I've always thought of it with how the ferries are named, that was usually approximately the area they first started running from. |
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Post by Dane on Dec 6, 2005 16:41:32 GMT -8
The Tsawwassen seemed to be devoid of a major assingment for much of her serviceable life, something that is till happening today to a certain extent. I wonder what the difference in "naval milage" is between the Sidney and Tsawwassen.
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 6, 2005 16:51:09 GMT -8
Thanks, Chris
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Dane wrote:
"The Tsawwassen seemed to be devoid of a major assingment for much of her serviceable life, something that is till happening today to a certain extent. I wonder what the difference in "naval milage" is between the Sidney and Tsawwassen."
Reminds me of the WSF fleet, and how much fewer nav hours there has been on their ships due to them being moored for long periods of time.
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Post by kylefossett on Dec 6, 2005 17:58:54 GMT -8
she is on the comox-powell river run named queen of burnaby.
somebody mentioned the green seats on her when she was running on the seattle run, we have a few of the deck chairs at our place on saltspring. thanks to somebody working on her during the switch back to bcf
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Post by Doug on Dec 6, 2005 18:11:29 GMT -8
Well this may get Cascade all excited: the ship operates on one of the six routes BC Ferries MAY privatize.
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Post by cascade on Dec 7, 2005 9:33:09 GMT -8
Doug,
I already know all the routes that BCFS have put out to "auction". Remember under the Agreement that BCFS signed ALL the routes are open to outside - private companies.
I know of two "European" Ferry operators who have looked over the routes of BCFS. They have even set up a team to work through the figures. This "coast" has been closed for the last 45 years - but is now starting to open up.
There are a number of problems to over come first. One is the lack of trained - Canadian - licensed crew. (Canada is short of about 44,000 people) The second problem is the value of the Dollar it is very low - and coming from a European currency - there return on investment would be over a very long period and not that great. They have shareholders to keep happy.
If a private operator comes to BC - the fares they can charged are "fixed" by the Ferry Commissioner - which is the same as BCFS.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 7, 2005 19:56:07 GMT -8
Chris: I agree about the turning-dolphin in berth-3 at Dep.Bay.
That was always neat to watch the NewWest turn around, and amazingly make it thru the narrow gap.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that was neat.....
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 7, 2005 23:11:16 GMT -8
Yup, I'll never forget that sight, although I supprisingly remember that from the ages of 3 through 8. After that, Duke Point was built, and then they changed alot of things at Departure Bay. Ultra Walker, do you remember when berth 2 and 3 were seperate with two different loading upper car deck ramps? I can't clearly remember which berth was what ferries docked in them to go to either Horseshoe Bay or Tsawwassen. I think the one with the green fence on the sides was on berth 3, and the one that was a brown rusty colour was berth 2, and that was where the Horseshoe Bay ferries docked. Does that make sense? Scott might know too, seeming his parents seemed to have worked there for quite a few years. Too bad nobody has any pictures of Departure Bay from 10 years ago...
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