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Post by Retrovision on Jun 12, 2007 6:56:32 GMT -8
I wonder what picture of Campbell they will use on the bow? likely not a Maui vacation picture.... We can only cross our fingers and hope that said snaps of our reigning seeming absolute monarch will make it onto the bow by the good grace of our friends with the company, though I for one won't be holding my breath. What, no smile?
That's better. Didn't your mother teach you to always smile and say thank you when a foreign police agency doesn't think twice about laying charges against you because of your title?
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jun 12, 2007 8:55:30 GMT -8
I can't see any company spending the dollars (both the cost of the materials and the fee from BC Ferries) to get into this kind of advertising. Companies want large numbers of impressions from customers. A bus going around in traffic constantly all day long delivers many more people viewing it than one group of passengers seeing the ferry go by in active pass for example. The tourist impact from media mentions on the foreign cities tours, should make the wraps very effective for the Olympics but moreso for ongoing tourism. However for regular ads on BC Ferries, if there was enough controversy and then the media were going to report it then all of a sudden that could change the equation and get you free ads in newspapers, radio and TV by the news coverage. *Mind wonders and imagines a ferry as giant triple O burger from White Spot* Better move on before I drool on my keyboard. ;D Yes airplanes do use special paint schemes all the time. Air Canada has a A320 with a Canadian flag made out of employees signatures. They had a plane painted as a giant raptor for the basketball team. There is the aboriginal design on the 767. Some are actual paint schemes and some are decals. Which leads me to a great idea for BC Ferries if they read these posts. Also very much in vogue for airlines is historical paint schemes usually in honor of an anniversary. For example Air Canada has either an A319 or A320 in a tribute Trans Canada Airlines paint scheme. There are many other airlines doing the same with US Airways being just one. BC Ferries should paint one of the ferries in the orginal light blue colour scheme with the dogwood logo on the funnel to honor the next anniversary.
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Post by Kam on Jun 12, 2007 8:58:34 GMT -8
I wonder what picture of Campbell they will use on the bow? Perhaps you are thinking of the stern...
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Post by queenofcowichan on Jun 12, 2007 11:50:35 GMT -8
BC Transit and Translink has many of its buses, and Skytrains with these ads on them. In most cases from the outside I like the adds they add a little colour to the bus. However as a passenger inside the bus these adds are a pain the the Butt as it is very difficult to see out. As long as the add does not cover the windows on the ferry, I realy do not mind. However I do wonder about how they are going to maintain the add. For example BC Transit coach's #9730 and 9723 up hear in Nanaimo have had the same add on the bus for a few years now and they are realy starting to show thier age, peeling off. So I wonder what the maintainance plan is for the Coastal Class? :
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Post by Dane on Jun 12, 2007 12:40:42 GMT -8
BC Transit and Translink has many of its buses, and Skytrains with these ads on them. In most cases from the outside I like the adds they add a little colour to the bus. However as a passenger inside the bus these adds are a pain the the Butt as it is very difficult to see out. As long as the add does not cover the windows on the ferry, I realy do not mind. GVTA has not covered windows for years now....
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 12, 2007 13:18:56 GMT -8
BC Transit and Translink has many of its buses, and Skytrains with these ads on them. In most cases from the outside I like the adds they add a little colour to the bus. However as a passenger inside the bus these adds are a pain the the Butt as it is very difficult to see out. As long as the add does not cover the windows on the ferry, I realy do not mind. GVTA has not covered windows for years now.... Since the late 90s, I'll ask my source on specifics, but this was changed due to an overwhelming number of customer complaints when the "all paint" bus advertisements started to roll out. I can tell you that I was on side with the opposition to the covered windows as little light and even less sight permeated those tiny holes throughout; it was to the point that without squinting you felt as if in a cattle car of sorts. It was so long ago that I'm fairly sure BC Transit stopped the practice (pre-1999) first and it has long been upheld by the GVTA with no change in sight considering the force of the backlash when they were first tried.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 12, 2007 14:44:47 GMT -8
According to a Times Colonist article the the Coastal Rennasance will be only stopping in London and Los Angeles the second will stop in San Fransisco and the third one will stop in Seattle. The decals will be removed after the 2010 Olympics are over according to the article. So it looks like the decals are on there till the Olympics are over.
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Post by Curtis on Jun 12, 2007 15:50:04 GMT -8
The decals will be removed after the 2010 Olympics are over according to the article. So it looks like the decals are on there till the Olympics are over. This was a no-brainer. Otherwise the Expo 86 Logo would still be on the funnels and the Commonwealth Games logo on the side of the ships.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jun 12, 2007 17:31:01 GMT -8
On first glance, these designs look like the dazzle patterns that used to be applied to ships transporting troops through war zones. Such ships would be painted with geometric patterns to break up their profile lines and make them hard to identify by submarines. While the various groups that argue back and forth over the Olympics only sometimes resemble a war zone, it might be better to err on the side of caution and post extra lookouts on the ships when they start sailing to spot any potential attacks from propaganda artists and watch for periscopes in the water.
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Post by Neil on Jun 12, 2007 18:28:47 GMT -8
I can't see any company spending the dollars (both the cost of the materials and the fee from BC Ferries) to get into this kind of advertising. Companies want large numbers of impressions from customers. A bus going around in traffic constantly all day long delivers many more people viewing it than one group of passengers seeing the ferry go by in active pass for example. I hope you're right, but given that advertising and sponsorship are virtually epidemic these days, I wouldn't be so sure. Has General Motors sold even one car because their name is on the building the Canucks play in? Yet they paid millions for the naming rights. In the course of a day, an ad on the side of a route one ferry would be seen by more people than if it were in some of BC's smaller daily papers, and when you combine that with an advertiser's desire for basic brand recognition, it might not be a tough sell. Even elevators have advertising now, and when was the last time you sat on a park bench without being reminded about some dead person whose family sponsored it? It seems that every flat surface is for sale, and if BC Ferries sees a market for the sides of their boats, I wouldn't bet against it.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Jun 12, 2007 19:26:57 GMT -8
Hmm.... I'm impressed with the logo. I think it is an awesome paint job and it will look great! I like the green and blue lines, that looks cool. Does anyone know if BC Ferries will be putting some sort of Olympic logo on the other ferries?
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Post by Dane on Jun 12, 2007 21:32:37 GMT -8
Tonight I was thinking, because I was at work and I enjoy avoiding the task at hand, that BC Ferries must have just sprouted this partnership very recently. Why would they paint the first Coastal class vessel in the "true" BC Ferries paint scheme to just cover it up again.
However, I also continued thinking and realized this is an exceptional time to put these logos on the vessels, as the Olymipcs is about 2.5 years away. BC Ferries repaints major vessels roughly every two years,s o they are basically right on target to be repainted as the Olympics draws to a close.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 12, 2007 21:35:52 GMT -8
DOT photoA brand new Spirit of Vancouver Island - 1994 - sporting the Victoria Commonwealth Games logo on the side. The photo is taken on route 1 somewhere, I am not exactly certain where.
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Post by Mirrlees on Jun 12, 2007 22:03:19 GMT -8
DOT photoA brand new Spirit of Vancouver Island - 1994 - sporting the Victoria Commonwealth Games logo on the side. The photo is taken on route 1 somewhere, I am not exactly certain where. She might be lining up to back into berth 1 at Swartz Bay.
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Post by BreannaF on Jun 12, 2007 22:36:04 GMT -8
So.............. we all know what a ferry looks like if it isn't painted for a couple of years. So, it comes out in Jan 2008, by Jan 2010 I'll bet that ship will look like the flagship of the fleet for the Olympics..... Or is there something about the 3M decal that will keep it looking fresh?
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 12, 2007 23:47:11 GMT -8
Although even the Vancouver Sun article that I read at my folks' place this evening mentioned the wraps as being painted over after the Olympics and initially being applied as dozens of pannels, I still think that these wraps will be made to be peeled off through whatever technique 3M uses. I've never heard of such a wrap, be it on a building or on a bus that I see having new decal advertisements throughout our transit fleet regularly renewed, being applied with the intention of it being permanent. Why would you paint over a decal when you can take that decal off and not have it as a base for coats of paint for decades to come?
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Post by Curtis on Jun 13, 2007 7:11:50 GMT -8
Painting over it is the one thing I hope they don't do. I'm sure they meant to get the decal off before they do...Cause if they didn't!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jun 13, 2007 7:39:23 GMT -8
The wraps usually come in smaller pieces that are easy to handle and then are put togehter to form the image. Like tiles. And no they would not be painted over. They are removed with heat or chemicals usually.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jun 13, 2007 7:46:58 GMT -8
Bryan it should be waterproof so will actually protect the paint. However if it gets scratched or begins to lift the salt water will really do a number behind the decal on the metal because it will get trapped there longer. Only surface rust, but you will see the bubbling etc. Which makes more room behind the wrap for corrosion etc. etc. Aircraft are aluminum so corrosion is not a concern.
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Post by NMcKay on Jun 13, 2007 9:11:22 GMT -8
im suprised they dont wrap the whole boat...it will keep the steel fresh. less rust...... Plastic has a hard time rusting
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 13, 2007 18:59:59 GMT -8
It sounds like they could need to be repainted, seeing as the wraps will be comprised of relatively small tiles and obviously will have many creases because of it, if that senario of salt water getting underneath the plastic holds true.
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Post by Doug on Jun 13, 2007 22:20:43 GMT -8
im suprised they dont wrap the whole boat...it will keep the steel fresh. less rust...... Plastic has a hard time rusting Or better yet, build the whole ship out of plastic. Poly, by Wagonqueen.
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Post by BreannaF on Jun 13, 2007 22:48:51 GMT -8
Editorial cartoon in today's (Wednesday 13 June) Vancouver Sun is a ferry worker standing at a ferry terminal talking to a ferry passenger -- the ferry goes by with the "BC Ferries - See you in 2010" billboard on the side. The guy says, "It has to do with the Olympics, Madam. Not the frequency of the sailings or impending breakdowns."
Precious. Fitting. And just about true, some days.....
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Post by Dane on Jun 13, 2007 23:48:04 GMT -8
Hahahahaha which paper is that? I'd love to get a copy.... see what happens when you sleep until 2pm, you don't read the paper!
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Post by NMcKay on Jun 14, 2007 14:04:34 GMT -8
that one has to be posted
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