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Post by EGfleet on Jul 30, 2009 20:00:23 GMT -8
Um. I wouldn't get hung up on calling ships "she." Most English instructors these days (all of mine included, right up though the university) advised everyone strictly AGAINST calling ships "she" because these days it seems it is considered sexist. I'm not saying I agree with that entirely, but I see the point--and I have to admit I've known several women in the shipping industry who took offense to calling a ship "she." 
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Post by FNS on Jul 30, 2009 21:41:02 GMT -8
Um. I wouldn't get hung up on calling ships "she." Most English instructors these days (all of mine included, right up though the university) advised everyone strictly AGAINST calling ships "she" because these days it seems it is considered sexist. I'm not saying I agree with that entirely, but I see the point--and I have to admit I've known several women in the shipping industry who took offense to calling a ship "she." OK, folks. Here's a work-around in crafting sentences without using "she", "her", and especially "it". "The MV BURRARD PACIFIC BREEZE should be receiving dockside work at this time. After being declared ready for the sea by all parties, the vessel should begin sea trials soon. Once the owners are satisfied and the acceptance papers signed, the BREEZE would then begin crew training. Then the inaugural sailing, completing Trans-Link's new vessel construction." I think that would work for EGF's professors! ;D |
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Post by Neil on Jul 30, 2009 22:09:31 GMT -8
Um. I wouldn't get hung up on calling ships "she." Most English instructors these days (all of mine included, right up though the university) advised everyone strictly AGAINST calling ships "she" because these days it seems it is considered sexist. I'm not saying I agree with that entirely, but I see the point--and I have to admit I've known several women in the shipping industry who took offense to calling a ship "she." OK, folks. Here's a work-around in crafting sentences without using "she", "her", and especially "it". "The MV BURRARD PACIFIC BREEZE should be receiving dockside work at this time. After being declared ready for the sea by all parties, the vessel should begin sea trials soon. Once the owners are satisfied and the acceptance papers signed, the BREEZE would then begin crew training. Then the inaugural sailing, completing Trans-Link's new vessel construction." I think that would work for EGF's professors! ;D Nah. It would be awkward to construct sentences never using subjective personal pronouns like 'she' or 'it'. I'm with EG Fleet. Use 'she' if you want, but the seabus is just a big fat bus that floats. When I use 'she' in reference to a tub like the Kahloke, I'm just doing it out of convention, and not because there's any inherent grace in the thing. The nicer the design, the more comfortable I am with 'she', but people who aren't into nautical lore probably don't see any gender in these things, and there's no particular reason why they should. |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Aug 5, 2009 18:09:24 GMT -8
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Post by ProudCanuck on Aug 10, 2009 11:50:24 GMT -8
OK... now seeing her in the water, she is starting to grow on me.  Source: The Buzzer Blog buzzer.translink.ca/ |
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Post by Kam on Aug 10, 2009 12:30:16 GMT -8
OK... now seeing her in the water, she is starting to grow on me. Kind of like foot fungus...  |
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Post by Nickfro on Aug 10, 2009 14:03:22 GMT -8
I find their plan quite interetsing. Does it really make sense to retire the Otter or Beaver right after the Olympics? I agree that 3-boat service levels are not necessary for a few more years, but I wonder if they will be able to maintain the one older seabus while she (or it ;D) continues to operate on a full time basis before the 2nd new seabus is built. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 10, 2009 14:25:26 GMT -8
Regarding the need for 3 ships:
If demand increases, they could try to re-lease the Crosline, if she's still around.
Or maybe not...
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Post by Scott on Aug 10, 2009 16:14:14 GMT -8
Wonder how many of you ferry nuts are going to be found on board on the first day of service? ;D Quite a few! Yeah, I would. Except Translink seems to like to open their new things on Monday afternoons (RAV) and close their things on Friday afternoons (Albion ferry) Can't please everyone I guess... but makes it harder for the average worker. |
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 11, 2009 4:47:39 GMT -8
Regarding the need for 3 ships: If demand increases, they could try to re-lease the Crosline, if she's still around. Or maybe not... I suppose they could attach a tug to the dock that was built from him timbers and lug that around... |
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Post by Kam on Oct 6, 2009 18:55:17 GMT -8
I see she is now showing up on AIS accross from the PRQ.
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Post by Nickfro on Oct 7, 2009 12:15:26 GMT -8
The Burrard Pacific Breeze is out doing what is probably some sea trials, currently just off the shores of Metchosin.
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 9, 2009 8:28:34 GMT -8
She's currently at the northern end of Haro Strait, nearing Swartz Bay, en route to North Vancouver I'd assume.
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Post by Nickfro on Oct 9, 2009 9:05:40 GMT -8
A Seabus about to transit Active Pass. . .I didn't think I would see the day.  |
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Post by ProudCanuck on Oct 9, 2009 9:18:55 GMT -8
From the buzzer blog:
Keep an eye out for the new SeaBus—the Burrard Pacific Breeze—sailing in from Victoria on Friday, October 9.
The SeaBus is scheduled to leave Victoria at about 9 a.m., with a tentative arrival time of 2:30 p.m. in Burrard Inlet.
The Burrard Pacific Breeze will be heading for the North SeaBus terminal, where it will then undergo sea trials, staff training, and certification by Transport Canada. Once that’s through, the SeaBus will enter revenue service, which we estimate to be in December or so.
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Post by Balfour on Nov 4, 2009 22:18:48 GMT -8
Some action this morning spotted on my commute downtown... The Burrard Pacific Breeze has been out and about. Today she was doing some crew training with the Life saving equipment.
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Post by Nickfro on Dec 19, 2009 19:57:25 GMT -8
I haven't manged to hear any snippits about when the Burrard Pacific Breeze is scheduled to enter revenue service. However, a friend of mine told me that a family member rode it en route to work one morning. Being not too sure about this person's credibility, I wonder if they in fact have thrown the BPB in for some MD-like sailings (aka subbing in for a little bit). Definitely makes sense to before announcing its full time deployment to the route.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Dec 19, 2009 20:49:00 GMT -8
I haven't manged to hear any snippits about when the Burrard Pacific Breeze is scheduled to enter revenue service. However, a friend of mine told me that a family member rode it en route to work one morning. Being not too sure about this person's credibility, I wonder if they in fact have thrown the BPB in for some MD-like sailings (aka subbing in for a little bit). Definitely makes sense to before announcing its full time deployment to the route. The BPB has done at least one soft sailing. One of our members was fortunate enough to ride on it last Sunday, but apparently had to sign a waiver in order to get on it. BPB will be officially launched on Wednesday, December 23 at 10:00 AM. After the private launch ceremony, the ship will offically enter service. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 24, 2009 7:04:43 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Dec 24, 2009 7:34:33 GMT -8
Did anyone manage to catch a trip on the first day yesterday?
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Post by Balfour on Dec 24, 2009 9:36:32 GMT -8
I was on the first Sailing as well...
She's much quieter than the Otter and the Beaver and she goes faster. My only criticism is the smaller front windows...
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Post by Mike C on Dec 24, 2009 16:20:42 GMT -8
I was on her for her first sailing yesterday, and I must say, I'm mildly disappointed as to the lack of ferry enthusiast turnout.
She is indeed a very nice boat. She feels a little coastalized, with much more comfortable seats and nice new carpet. The vessel's interior is much more open and easier to move about in, and thus have allowed far more places for passengers to take a seat.
The interior is lacking some natural light, however - most took note of the small windows (or lack thereof), and feels more like a bus rather than a genuine boat.
It's powered by a Detroit Series 60 engine, which means it's much quieter while leaving the dock and underway, and much faster in moving across the water. Vibrations are minimal, and it handles waves very well.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 24, 2009 18:59:05 GMT -8
I'm semi-surprised we didn't get more notice of her entry into service. I Just finished watching the video. She does look impressive, the visuals they have of her in daylight make her look quite dynamic on the waterfront. The interior is lacking some natural light, however - most took note of the small windows (or lack thereof) I see what you mean. Judging by the footage, it looks similar to the forward view you get from her shipyard relative, MV Island Sky. I'm also rather appalled to hear that time could be short for either the Otter or Beaver. Why retire one? Why not keep one around for supplementary service at peak times? The Olympics can't be the only thing that will see tons of Seabus users move between Downtown and North-Van. |
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Post by Dane on Dec 27, 2009 1:42:18 GMT -8
I'm also rather appalled to hear that time could be short for either the Otter or Beaver. Why retire one? Why not keep one around for supplementary service at peak times? The Olympics can't be the only thing that will see tons of Seabus users move between Downtown and North-Van. Translink's current budget essentially only allows for maintenance of the status quo, which is two Sea Buses. Just "keeping a Sea Bus around" is a multi-million dollar a year proposal. If you think BCF is a money loser you should see the SeaBus stats! Currently the Sea Buses are operating nearly pass up free every day of the year. The addition of a third Sea Bus would have allowed "main" North Vancouver bus routes to switch to a 10 minute headway (229, 230, and 239 already is) which presumably would grow ridership, which in turn would justify the existence of the third Sea Bus. Immediately prior to TL's budget crunch technical assessments found that the Sea Buses would require a very pricey refit to keep them in service for an extended period of time. This in itself wasn't problematic until TL essentially "ran out of money," and is currently raising some taxes and tariffs just to maintain current service levels with no meaningful service improvements. When greener financial pastures appear I believe (and it is a somewhat educated belief) that two new Sea Buses will be among the top priorities. Somewhat related is TL's recent acquisition (or near acquisition, is a more appropriate label) of land to expand North Van's bus garage, which makes 10 minute headways more attainable for a few routes. Currently a lot of North Van's buses come from Burnaby, across the Iron Worker's Memorial bridge. |
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