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Post by articulated on Nov 27, 2023 15:26:57 GMT -8
There has been 2 Salish-class vessels on route 5 before, while Queen of Cumberland has been off on refit (or replacing Queen of Capilano on route 8); how did they accommodate this if berth 5 can't fully accept Salish-class vessels? |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 27, 2023 16:07:24 GMT -8
There has been 2 Salish-class vessels on route 5 before, while Queen of Cumberland has been off on refit (or replacing Queen of Capilano on route 8); how did they accommodate this if berth 5 can't fully accept Salish-class vessels? I believe berth 3 gets used. |
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Post by cbachmeier on Nov 27, 2023 16:17:49 GMT -8
There has been 2 Salish-class vessels on route 5 before, while Queen of Cumberland has been off on refit (or replacing Queen of Capilano on route 8); how did they accommodate this if berth 5 can't fully accept Salish-class vessels? I believe berth 3 gets used. That would make sense because the Skeena Queen uses berth #3 regualary and that is a more intermeditate vessel like the salish boats. |
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Post by Neil on Nov 27, 2023 17:00:44 GMT -8
I believe berth 3 gets used. That would make sense because the Skeena Queen uses berth #3 regualary and that is a more intermeditate vessel like the salish boats. Quite a difference in the depth of the vessels, and somewhat correspondingly, the water they require. Salish class 6.6 metres, Skeena Queen 5.5, ' Cumberland, 4.4. |
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Post by paulvanb on Jul 5, 2024 19:40:57 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Jul 5, 2024 21:31:12 GMT -8
Even then there were five berths... looks like the Saltspring Queen at the farthest one. No CP terminal at that time, but I see some work barges, so perhaps they were building it. |
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Post by Neil on Jul 6, 2024 17:23:44 GMT -8
As a sort of p.s. to Paul's and my posts, above...
I'd be curious to know how long BC Ferries kept the one berth- I think it was only one berth- that Gulf Island Ferries had at Swartz, when they took it over. Doesn't look like it was any of the five berths in the picture Paul posted.
There's not much of a history of the Gulf Island Ferry Company... it's kind of just a footnote in the various books on BC Ferries, and transportation history of the Gulf Islands.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 6, 2024 19:19:25 GMT -8
The furthest berth in that photo was the old Gulf Islands Ferry Co berth that dated back to the 1930’s, IIRC. Once BCF had four berths in place the old one (GIFC)was eliminated.
I suspect this photo is actually older than 1965, probably more like 63. The vessel seen is a V, probably the Esquimalt or Saanich.
BCF had just four berths at SWB until about 1976 when a new berth 2 (built between berths 1 & the original 2 ) was added for use by the then brand new truck/RV ferry.
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Post by Neil on Jul 6, 2024 21:30:12 GMT -8
The furthest berth in that photo was the old Gulf Islands Ferry Co berth that dated back to the 1930’s, IIRC. Once BCF had four berths in place the old one (GIFC)was eliminated. I suspect this photo is actually older than 1965, probably more like 63. The vessel seen is a V, probably the Esquimalt or Saanich. BCF had just four berths at SWB until about 1976 when a new berth 2 (built between berths 1 & the original 2 ) was added for use by the then brand new truck/RV ferry. Hmmh... now that you mention it, Jim, I see how that berth looks different from the other three minor berths. But it does look like there are four minor berths in total, although it looks like there could be a conflict between two of them... maybe one was a layover berth? |
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Post by chinook2 on Jul 9, 2024 14:01:54 GMT -8
The furthest berth in that photo was the old Gulf Islands Ferry Co berth that dated back to the 1930’s, IIRC. Once BCF had four berths in place the old one (GIFC)was eliminated. I suspect this photo is actually older than 1965, probably more like 63. The vessel seen is a V, probably the Esquimalt or Saanich. BCF had just four berths at SWB until about 1976 when a new berth 2 (built between berths 1 & the original 2 ) was added for use by the then brand new truck/RV ferry. Hmmh... now that you mention it, Jim, I see how that berth looks different from the other three minor berths. But it does look like there are four minor berths in total, although it looks like there could be a conflict between two of them... maybe one was a layover berth? Definitely during the transition period after the new minor berths (now 4 and 5, then 3 and 4) were constructed but before the old Gulf Island Ferries berth was decomissioned, also before the original overhead passenger system was constructed. |
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Post by Neil on Jul 9, 2024 16:34:34 GMT -8
Hmmh... now that you mention it, Jim, I see how that berth looks different from the other three minor berths. But it does look like there are four minor berths in total, although it looks like there could be a conflict between two of them... maybe one was a layover berth? Definitely during the transition period after the new minor berths (now 4 and 5, then 3 and 4) were constructed but before the old Gulf Island Ferries berth was decomissioned, also before the original overhead passenger system was constructed. chinook2, you've inadvertently added your comments to mine. Please edit to make them separate. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 9, 2024 19:32:49 GMT -8
Hmmh... now that you mention it, Jim, I see how that berth looks different from the other three minor berths. But it does look like there are four minor berths in total, although it looks like there could be a conflict between two of them... maybe one was a layover berth? Definitely during the transition period after the new minor berths (now 4 and 5, then 3 and 4) were constructed but before the old Gulf Island Ferries berth was decomissioned, also before the original overhead passenger system was constructed. The overhead walkway came in round about 1967, I think. This photo is dated as 1965, but I'm pretty sure its earlier, perhaps 1962. Berth 2, as well as 3 & 4 (today's berths 3-5) look unfinished. The second major vessel berth would have been needed once they started hourly service on route 1 and that came in 1962. The ferry at berth 1 is a 'V' and does not look to have the middle three wheelhouse windows lowered, so would not be a 'City' class, unless its the Victoria as built.
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