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Post by Barnacle on Jan 14, 2012 14:21:29 GMT -8
I think it was probably the Salish--unless the Chetzie and Salish swapped positions when I wasn't looking. Chetzie's still tied up in FH.
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Post by zargoman on Jan 14, 2012 17:46:02 GMT -8
That could be. I was going off of marinetraffic.com and the Salish was at Port Townsend, the Kennewick was near Keystone Harbor. There was a third boat represented that only had numbers and the "ship photos" showed several of the Chetzemoka. Don't know why that would be displayed there. I have seen both the Chetzemoka and Salish show up with a number instead of the boat name on multiple occasions. It reads the AIS info from boats to display the vessel position.
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Post by zargoman on Jan 14, 2012 17:47:28 GMT -8
And at that time, the Chetzemoka's position was not being shown, only the "random number" boat. I'm going to try to find out what the numbers are.
It could have been the MMSI, 367463060
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Post by lavalamp on Jan 15, 2012 14:23:58 GMT -8
Well, today the number shown for the boat on PT/Keystone is 367480010, which would have to be the Salish since that is what WSF Vessel Watch shows.
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Post by zargoman on Jan 15, 2012 14:56:20 GMT -8
That's wired. It showed "Salish" yesterday. I know they have two of almost everything in the wheelhouse. Maybe there are two different AIS switches.
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Post by zargoman on Jan 15, 2012 17:36:10 GMT -8
That's not "wired", its weird.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 15, 2012 20:51:22 GMT -8
Each pilothouse on each boat has its own AIS transceiver; they are supposed to be controlled by a relay that only allows one to transceive at a time. Occasionally the relay packs it in and both AIS units are active simultaneously.
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Post by sounder on Jan 24, 2012 10:25:34 GMT -8
Had my first trip on the Chetzemoka this morning at Tahlequah. With a crossing time of 12 minutes there are two things about the passanger cabin(s). If you want to go throught the boat it takes the entire crossing. Don't get lost on the passenger lounge. It is just a 12 minute crossing. You may not get off the boat. On the Rhody, you Knew everyone who was upstairs. On the Chetzie, it is really easy to avoid people you do not want to spend quality time with! Since I have been on this boat at Pt. Townsend. I had a lot of fun this morning seeing the first time customers facial exspressions as they had no clue of how to even find the stair towers let alone where to go once upstairs! This should be great for the next week or so.......
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Post by chokai on Jan 24, 2012 10:57:31 GMT -8
I'm curious about the commute traffic on that run. Are there a lot of (or any) morning/afternoon walk-ons or is it mostly people driving on?
Will be curious to see if one of the food services companies will try to make the galley work there now that they have a boat with one. There aren't a lot of services nearby on either of those docks to grab a coffee etc...
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Post by Chippewa on Jan 24, 2012 12:03:09 GMT -8
Maybe it is just me , but in the photo of the Tahlequah dock it looks like they have turned the Chetzie around so end #2 is now facing westbound so the exhaust stack is on the Starboard side. I thought all of the state ferries have end #1 facing westbound? Again maybe it is just me.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 24, 2012 12:19:29 GMT -8
Maybe it is just me , but i thought all of the state ferries have end #1 facing westbound? It looks like they have turned the Chetzie around so end #2 is now facing westbound so the exhaust stack is on the Starboard side as it goes Westbound ?? . Well, the Point Defiance-Tahlequah route is really a north-south orientation, so which end should be facing north, and which end facing south? And, better yet, does it really matter that much? |
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Post by zargoman on Jan 24, 2012 13:04:47 GMT -8
I'd expect the No. 1 end facing Vashon and the No. 2 end facing Pt. Defiance.
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Post by FNS on Jan 24, 2012 13:34:54 GMT -8
I'd expect the No. 1 end facing Vashon and the No. 2 end facing Pt. Defiance. Looking at the Tahlequah cam, the stack is on the east side of the ferry. The stack is on the port side. Therefore, End Number One is touching Point Defiance (the dock she makes fast at the end of her operational day) and End Number Two is touching Tahlequah. The CHETZEMOKA used End Number One when making fast at Port Townsend and at Friday Harbor.  CHETZEMOKA at Tahlequah today. I think this could change. The captain would love to rise out of his berth each morning and seeing Mount Rainier through his/her window (during the longer summer days) and likewise for the crew in their Sun Deck lounge. |
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Post by Chippewa on Jan 24, 2012 13:48:50 GMT -8
All state ferries since day one when the state tookover the system has had end #1 facing westbound when sitting at the eastside docks like Seattle-Edmonds-etc. There was a time about 10 years ago or so when the Klickitat on the PT run was turned around because a some motor problem coming into Keystone. Even the Salish has end #1 facing westbound coming out of Keystone harbour.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 24, 2012 15:03:00 GMT -8
All state ferries since day one when the state tookover the system has had end #1 facing westbound when sitting at the eastside docks like Seattle-Edmonds-etc. There was a time about 10 years ago or so when the Klickitat on the PT run was turned around because a some motor problem coming into Keystone. Even the Salish has end #1 facing westbound coming out of Keystone harbour. The Klickitat ran "backwards" for a lot longer than that. I only worked on her a few times, I'll grant you, but I can't ever remember the galley end going into Keystone. Moreover, the Evergreen State ran "backwards" whenever it ran/runs out of Anacortes, because the elevator is on the #2 end of the vessel. It was decided Back In The Day to do so because Anacortes had the overhead walkway available, but the islands didn't. Beware of "all" statements.  |
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Post by Chippewa on Jan 24, 2012 16:02:25 GMT -8
Sorry...I stand corrected.  |
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Post by sounder on Jan 26, 2012 19:09:16 GMT -8
Not sure if the die-hard commuters miss the Rhody or not? I was on the 16:30 sailing from Pt. Defiance this afternoon and the Chetzemoka was overloaded by eight cars. Although the crews at Pt. Townsend really pack the cars on the KDT boats. Our crews here at Tahlequah seem to be a little cautious about loading/unloading and spacing issues. It is true about when there is a bigger boat the traffic will increase. When the Sealth/Evergreen State has been on the route they too have been close to full. We also have it pretty good at the north end of Vashon with the two Issaquah 130's along with the Tilly there for a few weeks.
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Post by Luke on Jan 27, 2012 18:13:50 GMT -8
Chetz is settled on her new run.  IMG_20120127_171513 by WSFAN1, on Flickr ![]() [/img] I just took a round trip on the Chetzy. Nice boat. Big. She is geared for long runs, and it seemed the second she was out of Talequah she was landing at Defience.  |
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Post by rusty on Jan 27, 2012 19:01:46 GMT -8
I'm glad that Chet found a job, but that ferry on that run is so stupid it's funny. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 28, 2012 4:42:29 GMT -8
I'm glad that Chet found a job, but that ferry on that run is so stupid it's funny. ;D ;D ;D Why so? I admit I haven't been down to PDT for years, but back in 2001 when I did sit in there for a couple of days, I thought the Rhody was rather inadequate to the task (although a much cooler boat than the Chetzemoka). |
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Post by rusty on Jan 28, 2012 8:17:32 GMT -8
Hauling that large cabin back and forth on such a short run takes fuel and extra crew, i.e. $$$.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 28, 2012 13:50:56 GMT -8
Hauling that large cabin back and forth on such a short run takes fuel and extra crew, i.e. $$$. Ah, okay. I get you now. *appending* But on the other hand, it was either that or build yet another special-purpose, route-specific vessel. (And I don't wish to hear that "the Steel-Electrics were fine" because while yes, they were, that ship officially sailed four years ago.) |
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Post by rusty on Jan 28, 2012 17:37:05 GMT -8
But on the other hand, it was either that or build yet another special-purpose, route-specific vessel. (And I don't wish to hear that "the Steel-Electrics were fine" because while yes, they were, that ship officially sailed four years ago.) I guess you could say the Fates (the three of them) cut the thread on the Steel-Electrics, and cast the die that is the KdT's. It's a new kind of Ferry system.  |
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Post by FNS on Jan 28, 2012 18:20:02 GMT -8
Hauling that large cabin back and forth on such a short run takes fuel and extra crew, i.e. $$$. Ah, okay. I get you now. *appending* But on the other hand, it was either that or build yet another special-purpose, route-specific vessel. (And I don't wish to hear that "the Steel-Electrics were fine" because while yes, they were, that ship officially sailed four years ago.) Or, do you want the return of the KULSHAN and see her on the Tahlequah run? The SSA is exploring avenues on replacing her on the Vineyard run. steamshipauthority.com/ssa/documents/MtgNotBrd_20120131.pdfThis is what you would get for passenger amenities (as what Whidbey riders had in the 1970s):  |
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Post by rusty on Jan 28, 2012 18:43:58 GMT -8
You know, a stretched Steilacoom II might work very well down there.
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