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Post by crashlament on Aug 10, 2015 17:48:11 GMT -8
What is the Range Whistle and what is the Ship Whistle? I think one is used for emergency. The Ship's Whistle (also known as the horn) is used for navigation or rescue boat drill and is located above the pilot house. The Range Whistle is the Whistle located below the pickle forks and is used for other emergency that at this point is unknown to me. |
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Post by Luke on Aug 10, 2015 19:03:11 GMT -8
What is the Range Whistle and what is the Ship Whistle? I think one is used for emergency. Ship's whistle is the whistle you'd typically hear on, say, a landing. Range Whistle is used as a tool when the ship is sailing through low visibility; It is deliberately made to echo. The crew sounds it, then waits for the echo, then they can calculate how close they are to an obstacle, such as land or another ship. |
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 10, 2015 19:15:14 GMT -8
What is the Range Whistle and what is the Ship Whistle? I think one is used for emergency. Ship's whistle is the whistle you'd typically hear on, say, a landing. Range Whistle is used as a tool when the ship is sailing through low visibility; It is deliberately made to echo. The crew sounds it, then waits for the echo, then they can calculate how close they are to an obstacle, such as land or another ship. Once upon a time, anyway. I've never picked up an echo off the range whistle of an Issaquah boat--probably because the whistles sound the same note (more or less) as the reduction gears, and the return gets lost. I've done it a couple times with the big whistle, though. |
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Post by Elwha on the Rocks on Sept 3, 2015 15:49:14 GMT -8
So after riding the Hyak over to Bremerton I took the Sealth as my return ferry back to Seattle. We has a very light load, with maybe 1/2 of the main cardeck used, and the side tunnels unused except for one truck. Here she is coming into Bremerton full of passengers:  I love the noise that Issaquah class ferries make when docking and the Sealth is no exception:  Docked in Bremerton:  The galley which was very empty during the crossing:  Her wake and safety nets:  The tunnel from the first flight of stairs to the second. If this was a 130 there would be an opening to the gallery ramps:  Back in Seattle, here she is leaving on her last sailing of the day to Bremerton:  |
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Post by crashlament on Sept 4, 2015 19:44:35 GMT -8
What is the Range Whistle and what is the Ship Whistle? I think one is used for emergency. Ship's whistle is the whistle you'd typically hear on, say, a landing. Range Whistle is used as a tool when the ship is sailing through low visibility; It is deliberately made to echo. The crew sounds it, then waits for the echo, then they can calculate how close they are to an obstacle, such as land or another ship. I really didn't need your help, Snowy. That was really unnecessary : ( |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 4, 2015 20:04:07 GMT -8
Ship's whistle is the whistle you'd typically hear on, say, a landing. Range Whistle is used as a tool when the ship is sailing through low visibility; It is deliberately made to echo. The crew sounds it, then waits for the echo, then they can calculate how close they are to an obstacle, such as land or another ship. I really didn't need your help, Snowy. That was really unnecessary : ( I thought it was a great post that Snowy made. He answered the question. I, and others, learned from it. If you don't need someone's help, then don't ask a question on an internet forum.  |
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Post by crashlament on Oct 26, 2015 16:37:23 GMT -8
Ship's whistle is the whistle you'd typically hear on, say, a landing. Range Whistle is used as a tool when the ship is sailing through low visibility; It is deliberately made to echo. The crew sounds it, then waits for the echo, then they can calculate how close they are to an obstacle, such as land or another ship. Once upon a time, anyway. I've never picked up an echo off the range whistle of an Issaquah boat--probably because the whistles sound the same note (more or less) as the reduction gears, and the return gets lost. I've done it a couple times with the big whistle, though. The Ship's whistle also has different signals for whats going on. Here are three examples. The landing signal typically is one long blast followed by two shorter blasts. The departure signal can be either one long blast, three short blasts or both, the Danger ahead signal is five short blasts. |
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 26, 2015 16:45:20 GMT -8
Once upon a time, anyway. I've never picked up an echo off the range whistle of an Issaquah boat--probably because the whistles sound the same note (more or less) as the reduction gears, and the return gets lost. I've done it a couple times with the big whistle, though. The Ship's whistle also has different signals for whats going on. Here are three examples. The landing signal typically is one long blast followed by two shorter blasts. The departure signal can be either one long blast, three short blasts or both, the Danger ahead signal is five short blasts. Any idea what 8 short blasts means? The Samish, Sealth and all the Supers have done that at least once coming into Friday Harbor on many occasions. |
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Post by Luke on Oct 26, 2015 19:40:44 GMT -8
The Ship's whistle also has different signals for whats going on. Here are three examples. The landing signal typically is one long blast followed by two shorter blasts. The departure signal can be either one long blast, three short blasts or both, the Danger ahead signal is five short blasts. Any idea what 8 short blasts means? The Samish, Sealth and all the Supers have done that at least once coming into Friday Harbor on many occasions. The 8 short blasts is probably just a generic signal to ensure the small pleasure crafts zipping through the harbor realize the big ferry is coming in. Would be a bad thing for the ferry to t-bone a speedboat. I'm sure Barnacle could add to that. Also, the range whistle is technically capable of producing the landing, departure, and danger signals. They just never use it for those purposes. |
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Post by FNS on Oct 26, 2015 22:34:00 GMT -8
Once upon a time, anyway. I've never picked up an echo off the range whistle of an Issaquah boat--probably because the whistles sound the same note (more or less) as the reduction gears, and the return gets lost. I've done it a couple times with the big whistle, though. The Ship's whistle also has different signals for whats going on. Here are three examples. The landing signal typically is one long blast followed by two shorter blasts. The departure signal can be either one long blast, three short blasts or both, the Danger ahead signal is five short blasts. You're right on WSF's "fanfare approach" signal. The COHO does the same as well as the tour vessels in Seattle. On the other hand, BCF used three short blasts followed by a long blast. AMH two long blasts and two short blasts. Olympic Ferries Inc (MV SAN DIEGO) just sounded two quick blasts as its fanfare approaches into Keystone Harbor and Port Townsend. Finally, the PRINCESS MARGUERITE sounded one long, two short, and another long blast from her whistles upon arriving Seattle and Victoria (the VANCOUVER ISLAND PRINCESS did the same). There may be others. A bitter controversy arose when WSF began its presence in 1951. I'll let you study history books to find out what signal they used then and when the former Black Ball captains (who became WSF captains) got their wishes come true again. Most ferries having one wheelhouse at the forward end sound one long blast first, then three short blasts as the signal that they are going astern while backing out of the slip. |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Feb 3, 2016 11:59:58 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 3, 2016 12:49:43 GMT -8
Once upon a time, anyway. I've never picked up an echo off the range whistle of an Issaquah boat--probably because the whistles sound the same note (more or less) as the reduction gears, and the return gets lost. I've done it a couple times with the big whistle, though. The Ship's whistle also has different signals for whats going on. Here are three examples. The landing signal typically is one long blast followed by two shorter blasts. The departure signal can be either one long blast, three short blasts or both, the Danger ahead signal is five short blasts. I just caught this... one prolonged blast is an optional departure signal (which is actually supposed to only be used on inland waters as defined in the COLREGS or Rules of the Road, but is frequently used in Puget Sound and adjacent waters despite being considered "international" for purposes of COLREGS); three short blasts actually means "vessel operating astern" per the same Rulebook. Most commonly heard when the boat is backing out of the dock. One prolonged blast combined with three short blasts as you suggest, is actually a restricted-visibility signal for a vessel being towed. Now that I've muddied the waters further...  |
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 4, 2016 9:01:53 GMT -8
I've seen the damage... the bearing is kaput, but a new one is already on board. The problem is the driveshaft that broke. It's my understanding that WSF didn't have one of that size on the shelf, so it's the acquisition end that's the problem. Drydocking is not necessary to make the repairs, just some chain falls and the deck hatch. And probably a lot of hammering at some point. ;D I would agree with that, but I wouldn't say that the Sealth or Spokane need paint nearly as badly as the Hyak and Cathlamet.What does my six-year-old post have to do with your response? |
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Post by crashlament on Feb 4, 2016 18:46:27 GMT -8
I would agree with that, but I wouldn't say that the Sealth or Spokane need paint nearly as badly as the Hyak and Cathlamet.What does my six-year-old post have to do with your response? Oh sorry. I guess I was on the wrong page. I'll delete that post so no one else seas it, no pun intended. |
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Post by Luke on Mar 5, 2016 21:56:40 GMT -8
A night shot of the Sealth at Vashon, taken last night  A long exposure as the Sealth pulls away from the dock. I like the effect of this, though it's probably not one to submit to ShipSpotters...  |
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Post by Elwha on the Rocks on May 1, 2016 19:16:37 GMT -8
The Sealth saw my camera many times during my recent trip to Southworth. The first time I saw her was at Fauntleroy, as she was leaving for Vashon:  With the Issaquah:  At Vashon, seen from the Cathlamet:   Heading back to Fauntleroy. I was a little surprised to see all the dots of rust along the side:   A little later, en-route to Southworth with her running mates the Cathlamet and Issaquah in the background:   Inside, she has one of my favorite color schemes in the fleet as the light colors make the cabin feel very open and airy:  The pickleforks:  Approaching Fauntleroy:  |
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Post by Barnacle on May 2, 2016 6:15:48 GMT -8
The Sealth saw my camera many times during my recent trip to Southworth. Inside, she has one of my favorite color schemes in the fleet as the light colors make the cabin feel very open and airy: I have to be honest, I wasn't wild about the pattern on the deck when it first came around (although it was a vast improvement over the previous one). However, as time has moved on, I must say I do like the fact that it hides the wear and tear better than the old oatmeal-colored tile. Ever tried to make a worn-out tile floor the color of "dirty white" look clean? |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 22, 2016 8:38:40 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jul 22, 2016 8:51:02 GMT -8
I plan to go to the Ballard Locks and watch her (the Sealth) on Monday morning. |
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jul 25, 2016 11:01:14 GMT -8
At ~8:30am, the MV Sealth arrived at the Ballard Locks to head to the Lake Union Shipyard for dockside repair work. I watched them transit and got some pictures of the rare event.  Sealth coming around the corner after entering Ship Canal.  On 'final approach' to the 380-foot large lock with many onlookers present.  Still being tugged into the locks. Very slowly and lining up right.  Close-up of the car deck and the rudder/propeller.  You would think you were at a ferry dock here. :-)  General perspective of how little space there is for the transit process.  Outboard Sealth Seattle name.  Looking at her bridge and superstructure after entering the locks.  Opposide end - bridge and superstructure.  Head-on view of the entire boat. I look forward to seeing her transit back in September. |
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 25, 2016 11:50:42 GMT -8
Thanks for going out there and capturing the very good photos you did of Sealth transiting the locks. I'm not sure why WSF is making such a big deal about this, and why it made the news this morning. It's not like this is the first time a ferry has gone through the locks. This isn't even the biggest one to do so. Super Class vessels have made this journey in the past.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 1, 2016 18:20:05 GMT -8
Thanks for going out there and capturing the very good photos you did of Sealth transiting the locks. I'm not sure why WSF is making such a big deal about this, and why it made the news this morning. It's not like this is the first time a ferry has gone through the locks. This isn't even the biggest one to do so. Super Class vessels have made this journey in the past. It's notable because while the Supers are longer, the Issaquahs are wider and barely fit through the locks. I'd probably be rubbing some Crisco on the rub rails for luck before trying the transit. |
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on May 10, 2018 21:47:12 GMT -8
Will Vigor ever at the second auto deck
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Post by Kahloke on May 11, 2018 4:03:15 GMT -8
Will Vigor ever at the second auto deck Sealth is supposed to become the inter-island ferry when Tillikum is retired, so the likelihood of it getting a second auto deck is not very high. |
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Post by Edmondsguy on May 11, 2018 20:27:36 GMT -8
Will Vigor ever at the second auto deck Sealth is supposed to become the inter-island ferry when Tillikum is retired, so the likelihood of it getting a second auto deck is not very high. That and it also has the lowest Auto Deck Clearance: 15' 2" of the Class, and from my understanding, it was felt that adding the second deck, would be to tight feeling and they WSF didn't want it to be like the supers with needing more dwell time. |
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