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Post by Mike on Nov 11, 2010 18:05:17 GMT -8
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Post by EGfleet on Nov 11, 2010 18:07:02 GMT -8
Whatever happened to the San Diego? She's currently abandoned at Decker Island on the Sacramento River in California, slowly falling to pieces.
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Post by FNS on Nov 11, 2010 18:15:19 GMT -8
Whatever happened to the San Diego? Your answer is at the bottom of the linked page below. www.evergreenfleet.com/theferrysandiego.htmlAs of today's GoogleEarth viewing, she was seen on the shores of Decker Island. The captioning of the photo may not be true. We zoom out to see more of Decker Island and the surrounds. We climb to a higher altitude to see where this is in relationship to San Francisco Bay. Decker is a little upper right of the 160 label.
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Post by FNS on Nov 11, 2010 19:09:04 GMT -8
Some random old (pre Steel Electric) Keystone shots. A much better postcard shot of the Olympic.This is the OLYMPIC in the mid-1970s. Her galley end was touching Port Townsend then, but was not open during that time. If you can see the two uncovered windows under the stack, that bench would be cut up for the installation of a cabinet. Some random old (pre Steel Electric) Keystone shots. An oddly angled postcard shot of the Holy OlyThis photo must have been taken sometime in 1979 when the Edmonds-Port Townsend run was operational after the Hood Canal Bridge sinking in February of that year. The galley end of the OLY was touching Keystone then as we see in this photo. Also, in this photo, we see the cabinet installed. Her galley was dusted off and serving food during this time. The OLYMPIC and the RHODODENDRON (still taking turns on this run) were made fast for the night at Keystone during this time period. The slip you see was the old single lane dock. It wouldn't be long after this photo was taken when work would begin on the new two lane slip about a hundred feet to the west. Some random old (pre Steel Electric) Keystone shots. The Rhododendron in 1980. This photo of the RHODODENDRON was taken when the Edmonds run was in operation as we see this ferry with her galley end touching Keystone. On the wider side of the cabin, we see four windows, the doors, and four more windows. Then, we see narrower cabin structures at the end which were divided in two by a center passage. The corner facing you were the heads. The ladies had two windows and the men had one. On the other side, there were the janitor's lockers and a couple of officers staterooms. At the other end, there were the staterooms for the Captain and Chief Engineer at the end, the Purser's Office on this side next to the passenger area (complete with a "window" with steel bars and a solid door), and the crew lounge on the other side. In this photo, the galley was located at the opposite corner.
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Post by FNS on Nov 13, 2010 14:50:17 GMT -8
OK, folks! It's time for Pacific Northwest's favorite guessing game: "WHAT'S MY CAR COUNT?"(A take off from "WHAT'S MY LINE?") Is it one? Is it two? Or, is it sixty-four (give or take)?
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Post by BreannaF on Nov 13, 2010 15:08:56 GMT -8
"WHAT'S MY CAR COUNT?"(A take off from "WHAT'S MY LINE?") You mean that the sign is not an accurate reflection of how many cars the ferry holds??? ;D
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Post by FNS on Nov 13, 2010 16:45:28 GMT -8
That sign looks cute, nonetheless. ;D
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Post by SS Shasta on Nov 15, 2010 9:13:23 GMT -8
Can't Remember............... Are there two ferry landings at Port Townsend or is one limited to an out of service vessel and cannot load or unload vehicles?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2010 9:26:11 GMT -8
Can't Remember............... Are there two ferry landings at Port Townsend or is one limited to an out of service vessel and cannot load or unload vehicles? The 2nd berth (secondary) has a vehicle ramp, but it's not wide enough for some trucks (vans, as you call them in USA). - in October, the secondary berth was used (repair job on main berth), and there was a service notice saying that large trucks (vans?) couldn't use the route.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 15, 2010 9:43:50 GMT -8
Can't Remember............... Are there two ferry landings at Port Townsend or is one limited to an out of service vessel and cannot load or unload vehicles? The 2nd berth (secondary) has a vehicle ramp, but it's not wide enough for some trucks (vans, as you call them in USA). - in October, the secondary berth was used (repair job on main berth), and there was a service notice saying that large trucks (vans?) couldn't use the route. As flugel said, they generally use Slip 1 because it has a 2-lane ramp and also because of the layout of the terminal. That said, I was once on a Steel Electric (probably Quinault) that docked at Slip 2. There weren't any large vehicles on board, and I suspect the reason they docked there was because it was Quinault's last run of the day, and she would overnight at that slip when there was 2-boat service.
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Post by FNS on Nov 15, 2010 10:58:11 GMT -8
The 2nd berth (secondary) has a vehicle ramp, but it's not wide enough for some trucks (vans, as you call them in USA). - in October, the secondary berth was used (repair job on main berth), and there was a service notice saying that large trucks (vans?) couldn't use the route. As flugel said, they generally use Slip 1 because it has a 2-lane ramp and also because of the layout of the terminal. That said, I was once on a Steel Electric (probably Quinault) that docked at Slip 2. There weren't any large vehicles on board, and I suspect the reason they docked there was because it was Quinault's last run of the day, and she would overnight at that slip when there was 2-boat service. Actually, I have been aboard the QUINAULT on her last run of a day and she landed at the main slip at Port Townsend. After she unloaded, she moved over to the single lane slip for her FWE periods.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 15, 2010 11:30:08 GMT -8
It depended on what was aboard on the last crossing. I was on the Klickitat during 2-boat service one day and, with only standard-sized vehicles aboard, we steamed directly to slip 2. So, before this turns into a heated debate, there is no hard-and-fast rule.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 19, 2010 10:06:15 GMT -8
Another, slightly more rare postcard shot of the San Diego. And here's a life-ring from the San Diego, in the Capital Iron store in Victoria BC.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 18, 2010 14:05:37 GMT -8
Some WSF terminal photos, from October 26 & 27, 2010: Keystone. - photo taken from Fort Casey RV park.
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Post by SS Shasta on Dec 19, 2010 22:50:14 GMT -8
Related to the second vessel on this route...........has Senator Mary Margaret Haugen had much to say about this issue? Something might have been in the press, but I missed it!
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 20, 2010 5:06:09 GMT -8
Related to the second vessel on this route...........has Senator Mary Margaret Haugen had much to say about this issue? Something might have been in the press, but I missed it! You must have missed it as I've posted twice about it. She has said multiple times in the press that Port Townsend is going to get their second boat. As she writes the transportation budget, she can see to it that they get it, too.
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Post by SS Shasta on May 4, 2011 17:18:50 GMT -8
With the second vessel available for this route this summer, will the schedule for this second vessel be expanded? I believe that during the last years of the Steel-Electrics, the second vessel was scheduled for one shift of 8hrs per day. If tides at Keystone were a issue the number of voyages were even less, almost to the point of making that second vessel useless.
I am sure that the shops and businesses in Port Townsend would be pleased if the use of the second vessel is expanded
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Post by Barnacle on May 5, 2011 8:11:30 GMT -8
Boat #2 will still be an eight-hour boat. However, it had nothing to do with the Steel-Electrics and everything to do with having too many people in Washington State who feel entitled to have it all for nothing and refuse to provide funding for their infrastructure.
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Post by zargoman on Jun 7, 2011 13:09:27 GMT -8
I think that it will be really interesting to watch the traffic on the route once the Salish arrives. I remember riding the Steel-Electrics and having to wait through two sailings because of the heavy traffic. I'm not sure about the numbers, but I would assume that there are a lot of travelers who have had bad experiences in the last few years who will not even try to take the route. I hope that it will become what it once was, as the scenery is beautiful and it seems to be very well organized, especially with the addition of reservations.
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 30, 2011 17:57:30 GMT -8
A very busy Keystone terminal (June 30, 2011), and on a Thursday, no less: It appears traffic levels for this route are picking back up again.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 1, 2011 8:21:12 GMT -8
A very busy Keystone terminal (June 30, 2011), and on a Thursday, no less: It appears traffic levels for this route are picking back up again. It's also a holiday weekend.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 12, 2011 20:41:22 GMT -8
Before the Salish started, Thursdays were awful. There was so much traffic boarding the boat at Keystone. It's sooo nice to have the Salish in service. I was at Keystone on that day...or at least my truck was =)
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 28, 2011 11:14:09 GMT -8
A photo of Keystone (Aug 25, 2011):
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Post by SS Shasta on Sept 11, 2011 17:18:46 GMT -8
With two vessels now assigned to this route, I was wondering what direction is the main week end traffic flow? On Fridays, is it from Keystone to Port Townsend with the reverse on Sunday afternoons? It seems a bit more complicated than many of the southern Puget Sound routes.
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Post by FNS on Jan 8, 2012 5:30:15 GMT -8
Well, it looks like the days of seeing past ferry activity remnants at the old Quincy Street ferry dock at Port Townsend are drawing to a close. This was were you entered to be parked by lane number. This area, which had the lanes, is being redeveloped. The wing walls still stand after all these years of non-use. The last ferry to touch these was the VANCOUVER ISLAND PRINCESS in the spring of 1988 to evaluate the feasibility of auto ferry service between Port Townsend and Victoria. Nothing materialized and the ship is in China now. The retired VASHON used this in 1985 as she was a hostel for two months that year before going to Alaska. The renovated KLICKITAT was the last WSF to use this dock in 1983. WSF moved to Harrison Street in 1984.
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